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Jan 25th 2001, 1:17 pm
#31
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Nope... Estate left to non citizen spouses are NOT treated the same.
Michael, did you even *read* this thread before writing that reply?
Paulgani
Michael, did you even *read* this thread before writing that reply?
Paulgani
Jan 25th 2001, 3:46 pm
#32
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Of course, as we discussed before, one solution is to keep all assets in
> both names. If you are in the fortunate position where you need to
worry
> about this, transfer $100,000 a year in assets over to the non-US
citizen
> since if they croak first it wouldn't matter.
>
> Andy.
>
We hold everything we can jointly, but there are things that you can't hold jointly,
notably your retirement funds (401K, IRAs, etc.) and those things better be a lot more
than 100K before we retire, so it's something to consider. But again, I don't see any rush
on this one.
Alena
> both names. If you are in the fortunate position where you need to
worry
> about this, transfer $100,000 a year in assets over to the non-US
citizen
> since if they croak first it wouldn't matter.
>
> Andy.
>
We hold everything we can jointly, but there are things that you can't hold jointly,
notably your retirement funds (401K, IRAs, etc.) and those things better be a lot more
than 100K before we retire, so it's something to consider. But again, I don't see any rush
on this one.
Alena
Jan 25th 2001, 3:49 pm
#33
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Currently you lose it although there is pressure to change this:
>
> http://www.centraleurope.com/special/czam.php3
>
> Andy.
>
Thanks, Andy. I pretty much knew this was the case. I am fairly certain our (future
hyphotetical) children can have dual citizenship, so at the very least I want to pass my
citizenship on to them before becoming a USC.
Alena
>
> http://www.centraleurope.com/special/czam.php3
>
> Andy.
>
Thanks, Andy. I pretty much knew this was the case. I am fairly certain our (future
hyphotetical) children can have dual citizenship, so at the very least I want to pass my
citizenship on to them before becoming a USC.
Alena
Jan 25th 2001, 4:05 pm
#34
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Right, but if you are not a citizen, it becomes a problem to be away
> for a long time period (over a year).
We figure if they're not going to let him have dual citizenship (BTW - U am pretty sure I
*can* have it, but he *can't*) then we'll just DCF every few years when we want to return
to the US. Not many other choices in the matter, now is there?
> Additionally, there are people that live in the US that want to take a role in
> government, even if it is just to vote.
Yes - and there are pleanty of people who want to become citizens for whatever reason. I'm
just saying that I get tired of people ASSUMING that any immigrant would automatically
want to be a citizen of the US. It's just not true.
Betastar
> for a long time period (over a year).
We figure if they're not going to let him have dual citizenship (BTW - U am pretty sure I
*can* have it, but he *can't*) then we'll just DCF every few years when we want to return
to the US. Not many other choices in the matter, now is there?
> Additionally, there are people that live in the US that want to take a role in
> government, even if it is just to vote.
Yes - and there are pleanty of people who want to become citizens for whatever reason. I'm
just saying that I get tired of people ASSUMING that any immigrant would automatically
want to be a citizen of the US. It's just not true.
Betastar
Jan 25th 2001, 5:32 pm
#35
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any immigrant who uses an I-864 joint sponsor had better want to become a citizen at first
chance. To not do so is to spit in the face of your sponsor. Ptooie
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> In article <[email protected]>,
>
> > Right, but if you are not a citizen, it becomes a problem to be away for a long time
> > period (over a year).
>
> We figure if they're not going to let him have dual citizenship (BTW - U am pretty sure
> I *can* have it, but he *can't*) then we'll just DCF every few years when we want to
> return to the US. Not many other choices in the matter, now is there?
>
> > Additionally, there are people that live in the US that want to take a role in
> > government, even if it is just to vote.
>
> Yes - and there are pleanty of people who want to become citizens for whatever reason.
> I'm just saying that I get tired of people ASSUMING that any immigrant would
> automatically want to be a citizen of the US. It's just not true.
>
> Betastar
chance. To not do so is to spit in the face of your sponsor. Ptooie
--
Jonathan (Who hates to think what some people are thinking when they think they don't want
to relieve their joint sponsor of responsibility.) Sorry, couldn't resist my pet peeve
topic. People have got to learn how to put others needs first. _/ _/ _/ _/ K-1 Fiance Visa
Immigration through to Adjustment of Status http://clik.to/getk1 K-1 & Adjustment of
Status Links Page http://clik.to/K1andAOSLinks Newsgroup FAQ http://www.k1faq.com Arnaldo
and Alvena's Fiance Visa Page http://www2.apex.net/users/thehydes/ Immigration and
Naturalization Service http://www.ins.usdoj.gov {I am not a lawyer and this is not legal
advice. For reliable advice, please consult with a professional immigration attorney.}
> In article <[email protected]>,
>
> > Right, but if you are not a citizen, it becomes a problem to be away for a long time
> > period (over a year).
>
> We figure if they're not going to let him have dual citizenship (BTW - U am pretty sure
> I *can* have it, but he *can't*) then we'll just DCF every few years when we want to
> return to the US. Not many other choices in the matter, now is there?
>
> > Additionally, there are people that live in the US that want to take a role in
> > government, even if it is just to vote.
>
> Yes - and there are pleanty of people who want to become citizens for whatever reason.
> I'm just saying that I get tired of people ASSUMING that any immigrant would
> automatically want to be a citizen of the US. It's just not true.
>
> Betastar
Jan 25th 2001, 6:09 pm
#36
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Look at it this way Jonathan. With a three year wait for AOS and another three years wait
to file for citizenship and a year for the interview and swearing in ... they are only two
years shy of letting the fish off the hook away. And, if the spouse is the fish, they
really don't mind because they are in a relationship together. The only time there might
be a problem is if the marriage dissolves and the PR becames a liability of the
government.
Rita
In article <[email protected]>,
> any immigrant who uses an I-864 joint sponsor had better want to
become a
> citizen at first chance. To not do so is to spit in the face of your sponsor. Ptooie
>
> --
> Jonathan (Who hates to think what some people are thinking when they
think
> they don't want to relieve their joint sponsor of responsibility.)
Sorry,
> couldn't resist my pet peeve topic. People have got to learn how to
put
> others needs first. _/ _/ _/ _/ K-1 Fiance Visa Immigration through to Adjustment of
> Status http://clik.to/getk1 K-1 & Adjustment of Status Links Page
> http://clik.to/K1andAOSLinks Newsgroup FAQ http://www.k1faq.com Arnaldo and Alvena's
> Fiance Visa Page http://www2.apex.net/users/thehydes/ Immigration and Naturalization
> Service http://www.ins.usdoj.gov {I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice. For
> reliable advice, please consult with a professional immigration attorney.}
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> >
> > > Right, but if you are not a citizen, it becomes a problem to be
away
> > > for a long time period (over a year).
> >
> > We figure if they're not going to let him have dual citizenship
(BTW - U
> > am pretty sure I *can* have it, but he *can't*) then we'll just DCF every few years
> > when we want to return to the US. Not many other choices in the matter, now is there?
> >
> > > Additionally, there are people that live in the US that want to
take a
> > > role in government, even if it is just to vote.
> >
> > Yes - and there are pleanty of people who want to become citizens
for
> > whatever reason. I'm just saying that I get tired of people
ASSUMING
> > that any immigrant would automatically want to be a citizen of the
US.
> > It's just not true.
> >
> > Betastar
> >
> >
>
>
--
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to file for citizenship and a year for the interview and swearing in ... they are only two
years shy of letting the fish off the hook away. And, if the spouse is the fish, they
really don't mind because they are in a relationship together. The only time there might
be a problem is if the marriage dissolves and the PR becames a liability of the
government.
Rita
In article <[email protected]>,
> any immigrant who uses an I-864 joint sponsor had better want to
become a
> citizen at first chance. To not do so is to spit in the face of your sponsor. Ptooie
>
> --
> Jonathan (Who hates to think what some people are thinking when they
think
> they don't want to relieve their joint sponsor of responsibility.)
Sorry,
> couldn't resist my pet peeve topic. People have got to learn how to
put
> others needs first. _/ _/ _/ _/ K-1 Fiance Visa Immigration through to Adjustment of
> Status http://clik.to/getk1 K-1 & Adjustment of Status Links Page
> http://clik.to/K1andAOSLinks Newsgroup FAQ http://www.k1faq.com Arnaldo and Alvena's
> Fiance Visa Page http://www2.apex.net/users/thehydes/ Immigration and Naturalization
> Service http://www.ins.usdoj.gov {I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice. For
> reliable advice, please consult with a professional immigration attorney.}
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> >
> > > Right, but if you are not a citizen, it becomes a problem to be
away
> > > for a long time period (over a year).
> >
> > We figure if they're not going to let him have dual citizenship
(BTW - U
> > am pretty sure I *can* have it, but he *can't*) then we'll just DCF every few years
> > when we want to return to the US. Not many other choices in the matter, now is there?
> >
> > > Additionally, there are people that live in the US that want to
take a
> > > role in government, even if it is just to vote.
> >
> > Yes - and there are pleanty of people who want to become citizens
for
> > whatever reason. I'm just saying that I get tired of people
ASSUMING
> > that any immigrant would automatically want to be a citizen of the
US.
> > It's just not true.
> >
> > Betastar
> >
> >
>
>
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Jan 25th 2001, 6:16 pm
#37
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Of course, as we discussed before, one solution is to keep all assets in
> both names. If you are in the fortunate position where you need to
worry
> about this, transfer $100,000 a year in assets over to the non-US
citizen
> since if they croak first it wouldn't matter.
>
> Andy.
I like the plan not to have that kind of loot; because
Money causes pain in getting; In the keeping, pain and fretting; Pain in loss and pain in
spending; Damn the trouble never ending! (Arthur Ryder, 1925, The Panchatantra)
Many (financial planners, banks, lawyers and some investment accounts) offer estate
planning services that include "living trust". This may be a way out for couples with a
lot of wealth and one or both of them plan to keep their alien status. I also think that
this is become such an OT that it must retire to another ng.
> both names. If you are in the fortunate position where you need to
worry
> about this, transfer $100,000 a year in assets over to the non-US
citizen
> since if they croak first it wouldn't matter.
>
> Andy.
I like the plan not to have that kind of loot; because
Money causes pain in getting; In the keeping, pain and fretting; Pain in loss and pain in
spending; Damn the trouble never ending! (Arthur Ryder, 1925, The Panchatantra)
Many (financial planners, banks, lawyers and some investment accounts) offer estate
planning services that include "living trust". This may be a way out for couples with a
lot of wealth and one or both of them plan to keep their alien status. I also think that
this is become such an OT that it must retire to another ng.
Jan 25th 2001, 6:27 pm
#38
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any immigrant who uses an I-864 joint sponsor had better want to
> become a citizen at first chance. To not do so is to spit in the face of your
> sponsor. Ptooie
This from a retired guy in need of a break ? Alien spouses may simply work 40 quarters or
die doing it and leave the savings to the USC. It is better than becoming a citizen in the
hope of going on dole. It is indeed shameful for the USC who sought out a joint sponsor at
the time of the INS petition to not elevate self into a financial position to fully
support the alien spouse, should it be needed. I am afraid you had stood against the wind.
> become a citizen at first chance. To not do so is to spit in the face of your
> sponsor. Ptooie
This from a retired guy in need of a break ? Alien spouses may simply work 40 quarters or
die doing it and leave the savings to the USC. It is better than becoming a citizen in the
hope of going on dole. It is indeed shameful for the USC who sought out a joint sponsor at
the time of the INS petition to not elevate self into a financial position to fully
support the alien spouse, should it be needed. I am afraid you had stood against the wind.
Jan 25th 2001, 6:41 pm
#39
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any immigrant who uses an I-864 joint sponsor had better want to become a
> citizen at first chance. To not do so is to spit in the face of your sponsor. Ptooie
That's a good one I hadn't thought of. OK, here's my (non-cynical) list of reasons to
become a U.S. citizen, once you qualify:
Good reasons to become a U.S. citizen
1 - You can vote. 2 - Certain government jobs require it. 3 - You can sponsor additional
relatives for immigration to the U.S. 4 - You can't be deported if convicted of certain
criminal offenses. 5 - You can spend as much time out of the U.S. as you want without
worrying about abandoning your Permanent Residence status. 6 - You can receive more than
$100,000 per year in gifts from your U.S. Citizen spouse without being subject to the gift
tax. 7 - You can inherit your U.S. Citizen spouse's estate without being subject to the
estate tax (which start at 18% of the value of the estate for the first $10,000 in assets,
and go up to 60%) 8 - You will relieve the support obligation of the person who sponsored
your I-864 Affidavit of Support. 9 - A U.S. passport permits easier, visa-free travel to
many developed countries in the world, compared to passports from developing nations. 10 -
You can become eligible for certain public assistance programs.
Good reasons NOT to become a U.S. citizen
1 - You can leave and not be subject to U.S. taxes anymore. 2 - You can maintain your
previous country's citizenship (if dual-citizenship not permitted), thus keeping certain
rights, such as the right to property ownership, government jobs, etc... 3 - Certain other
passports better facilitate travel to Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Libya, etc... 4 - You can sue your
I-864 sponsor for support and get free money. 5 - If you are from the Philippines,
sponsoring your unmarried son or daughter is about 5 years faster if you are a Permanent
Resident as opposed to a U.S. citizen.
Paulgani
> citizen at first chance. To not do so is to spit in the face of your sponsor. Ptooie
That's a good one I hadn't thought of. OK, here's my (non-cynical) list of reasons to
become a U.S. citizen, once you qualify:
Good reasons to become a U.S. citizen
1 - You can vote. 2 - Certain government jobs require it. 3 - You can sponsor additional
relatives for immigration to the U.S. 4 - You can't be deported if convicted of certain
criminal offenses. 5 - You can spend as much time out of the U.S. as you want without
worrying about abandoning your Permanent Residence status. 6 - You can receive more than
$100,000 per year in gifts from your U.S. Citizen spouse without being subject to the gift
tax. 7 - You can inherit your U.S. Citizen spouse's estate without being subject to the
estate tax (which start at 18% of the value of the estate for the first $10,000 in assets,
and go up to 60%) 8 - You will relieve the support obligation of the person who sponsored
your I-864 Affidavit of Support. 9 - A U.S. passport permits easier, visa-free travel to
many developed countries in the world, compared to passports from developing nations. 10 -
You can become eligible for certain public assistance programs.
Good reasons NOT to become a U.S. citizen
1 - You can leave and not be subject to U.S. taxes anymore. 2 - You can maintain your
previous country's citizenship (if dual-citizenship not permitted), thus keeping certain
rights, such as the right to property ownership, government jobs, etc... 3 - Certain other
passports better facilitate travel to Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Libya, etc... 4 - You can sue your
I-864 sponsor for support and get free money. 5 - If you are from the Philippines,
sponsoring your unmarried son or daughter is about 5 years faster if you are a Permanent
Resident as opposed to a U.S. citizen.
Paulgani
Jan 25th 2001, 7:18 pm
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Of course. I was responding to the post that said, "However, under Federal law, I'm pretty
sure estates left to spouses are tax free"
This is NOT a correct statement if a non US Citizen is the surviving spouse.
Michael
paulgani wrote:
>
> > Nope... Estate left to non citizen spouses are NOT treated the same.
>
> Michael, did you even *read* this thread before writing that reply?
>
> Paulgani
sure estates left to spouses are tax free"
This is NOT a correct statement if a non US Citizen is the surviving spouse.
Michael
paulgani wrote:
>
> > Nope... Estate left to non citizen spouses are NOT treated the same.
>
> Michael, did you even *read* this thread before writing that reply?
>
> Paulgani
Jan 25th 2001, 7:43 pm
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Michael, in the quotes of the exact same message you replied you, I had ALREADY written:
"Normally, if your spouse dies, you can inherit an unlimited amount without any tax.
However, it appears that if you are not a citizen when your spouse dies, the estate will
be subject to the Estate tax,"
My quote which you questioned was in a specific response to a query by Rita regarding a
*U.S. Citizen* spouse!
Paulgani
> Of course. I was responding to the post that said, "However, under Federal law, I'm
> pretty sure estates left to spouses are tax free"
>
> This is NOT a correct statement if a non US Citizen is the surviving spouse.
>
> Michael
>
> paulgani wrote:
> >
> > > Nope... Estate left to non citizen spouses are NOT treated the same.
> >
> > Michael, did you even *read* this thread before writing that reply?
> >
> > Paulgani
"Normally, if your spouse dies, you can inherit an unlimited amount without any tax.
However, it appears that if you are not a citizen when your spouse dies, the estate will
be subject to the Estate tax,"
My quote which you questioned was in a specific response to a query by Rita regarding a
*U.S. Citizen* spouse!
Paulgani
> Of course. I was responding to the post that said, "However, under Federal law, I'm
> pretty sure estates left to spouses are tax free"
>
> This is NOT a correct statement if a non US Citizen is the surviving spouse.
>
> Michael
>
> paulgani wrote:
> >
> > > Nope... Estate left to non citizen spouses are NOT treated the same.
> >
> > Michael, did you even *read* this thread before writing that reply?
> >
> > Paulgani
Jan 25th 2001, 7:51 pm
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Not true. I replied to message 8 in the thread, and this quote doesn't appear there. The
quote appeared earlier in the thread then the message I replied to.
Michael
paulgani wrote:
>
> Michael, in the quotes of the exact same message you replied you, I had ALREADY written:
>
> "Normally, if your spouse dies, you can inherit an unlimited amount without any tax.
> However, it appears that if you are not a citizen when your spouse dies, the estate will
> be subject to the Estate tax,"
>
> My quote which you questioned was in a specific response to a query by Rita regarding a
> *U.S. Citizen* spouse!
>
> Paulgani
>
> > Of course. I was responding to the post that said, "However, under Federal law, I'm
> > pretty sure estates left to spouses are tax free"
> >
> > This is NOT a correct statement if a non US Citizen is the surviving spouse.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > paulgani wrote:
> > >
> > > > Nope... Estate left to non citizen spouses are NOT treated the same.
> > >
> > > Michael, did you even *read* this thread before writing that reply?
> > >
> > > Paulgani
quote appeared earlier in the thread then the message I replied to.
Michael
paulgani wrote:
>
> Michael, in the quotes of the exact same message you replied you, I had ALREADY written:
>
> "Normally, if your spouse dies, you can inherit an unlimited amount without any tax.
> However, it appears that if you are not a citizen when your spouse dies, the estate will
> be subject to the Estate tax,"
>
> My quote which you questioned was in a specific response to a query by Rita regarding a
> *U.S. Citizen* spouse!
>
> Paulgani
>
> > Of course. I was responding to the post that said, "However, under Federal law, I'm
> > pretty sure estates left to spouses are tax free"
> >
> > This is NOT a correct statement if a non US Citizen is the surviving spouse.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > paulgani wrote:
> > >
> > > > Nope... Estate left to non citizen spouses are NOT treated the same.
> > >
> > > Michael, did you even *read* this thread before writing that reply?
> > >
> > > Paulgani
Jan 25th 2001, 9:02 pm
#43
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What!? It doesn't sound like I need a break? Read the message again and you will agree, I
NEED one. LOL!
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http://www.ins.usdoj.gov {I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice. For reliable
advice, please consult with a professional immigration attorney.}
> In article <[email protected]>,
> > any immigrant who uses an I-864 joint sponsor had better want to become a citizen at
> > first chance. To not do so is to spit in the face of your sponsor. Ptooie
> This from a retired guy in need of a break ? Alien spouses may simply work 40 quarters
> or die doing it and leave the savings to the USC. It is better than becoming a citizen
> in the hope of going on dole. It is indeed shameful for the USC who sought out a joint
> sponsor at the time of the INS petition to not elevate self into a financial position to
> fully support the alien spouse, should it be needed. I am afraid you had stood against
> the wind.
NEED one. LOL!
--
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_/ _/ K-1 Fiance Visa Immigration through to Adjustment of Status http://clik.to/getk1 K-1
& Adjustment of Status Links Page http://clik.to/K1andAOSLinks Newsgroup FAQ
http://www.k1faq.com Arnaldo and Alvena's Fiance Visa Page
http://www2.apex.net/users/thehydes/ Immigration and Naturalization Service
http://www.ins.usdoj.gov {I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice. For reliable
advice, please consult with a professional immigration attorney.}
> In article <[email protected]>,
> > any immigrant who uses an I-864 joint sponsor had better want to become a citizen at
> > first chance. To not do so is to spit in the face of your sponsor. Ptooie
> This from a retired guy in need of a break ? Alien spouses may simply work 40 quarters
> or die doing it and leave the savings to the USC. It is better than becoming a citizen
> in the hope of going on dole. It is indeed shameful for the USC who sought out a joint
> sponsor at the time of the INS petition to not elevate self into a financial position to
> fully support the alien spouse, should it be needed. I am afraid you had stood against
> the wind.
Jan 25th 2001, 9:35 pm
#44
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My country allows dual citizenship. But if I take US citizenship, I have to declare that I
renounce any previous citizenship. Even though my country wouldn't take this as a real
renunciation, I feel it's a betrayal.
Am I the only person here thinking this way?
Marjeta
In article <[email protected]>,
>
>
> [email protected] wrote:
> >
> > Well, Vermont sped up at least some of its operations, as I
received my
> > green card two and a half months after getting the stamp
(11/06/00).This
> > was rather unexpected, as I was sure it would take at least six
months.
> > Maybe they were trying to make up for the 26 months it took to get
the
> > stamp in the first place (in NYC). At any case, I don't have to deal with the INS
> > until 2011, which is great news.
> >
>
> Great news. But why 2011?? Do you have no plans to apply for naturalization in 2 years
> and 9 months?
>
> Michael
renounce any previous citizenship. Even though my country wouldn't take this as a real
renunciation, I feel it's a betrayal.
Am I the only person here thinking this way?
Marjeta
In article <[email protected]>,
>
>
> [email protected] wrote:
> >
> > Well, Vermont sped up at least some of its operations, as I
received my
> > green card two and a half months after getting the stamp
(11/06/00).This
> > was rather unexpected, as I was sure it would take at least six
months.
> > Maybe they were trying to make up for the 26 months it took to get
the
> > stamp in the first place (in NYC). At any case, I don't have to deal with the INS
> > until 2011, which is great news.
> >
>
> Great news. But why 2011?? Do you have no plans to apply for naturalization in 2 years
> and 9 months?
>
> Michael
Jan 25th 2001, 11:40 pm
#45
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No.. The US will allow you to maintain both citizenships.
Michael
[email protected] wrote:
>
> My country allows dual citizenship. But if I take US citizenship, I have to declare that
> I renounce any previous citizenship. Even though my country wouldn't take this as a real
> renunciation, I feel it's a betrayal.
>
> Am I the only person here thinking this way?
>
> Marjeta
Michael
[email protected] wrote:
>
> My country allows dual citizenship. But if I take US citizenship, I have to declare that
> I renounce any previous citizenship. Even though my country wouldn't take this as a real
> renunciation, I feel it's a betrayal.
>
> Am I the only person here thinking this way?
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> Marjeta