Go Back  British Expats > Living & Moving Abroad > USA > US Immigration, Citizenship and Visas
Reload this Page >

Do I admit defeat? E2 & B1 Declined (214b)

Do I admit defeat? E2 & B1 Declined (214b)

Thread Tools
 
Old Feb 12th 2018, 12:50 pm
  #1  
Just Joined
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 25
AdamBaseman95 is an unknown quantity at this point
Post Do I admit defeat? E2 & B1 Declined (214b)

Hi All,

Last November I applied for an E2 Visa to help integrate our systems for our recent acquisition within the U.S. This got denied due to not being able to prove that I am a specialist worker (even though I technically am with my 3 years experience here in London). We then come up with the plan to continue to work for the London company but to apply for a B1 for 6 weeks which would start up the systems in the U.S and then I would return to continue business as usual in London. Unfortunately this got declined last week under Section (214b) not being able to prove home ties? Is the only way to get my B1 now is to get a mortgage/rental property and possibly achieve a degree over the next year or two?

I'm 22, no degree but experienced in my field within this company. I have a professional job to come back to and all expenses of my trip were going to be paid by the company in London.

Do I admit defeat? I'm also worried that a B2 would now get refused If I were to go on holiday to the U.S next year?

Thanks for your time.
AdamBaseman95 is offline  
Old Feb 12th 2018, 1:54 pm
  #2  
BE Enthusiast
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 379
Fred16 is a name known to allFred16 is a name known to allFred16 is a name known to allFred16 is a name known to allFred16 is a name known to allFred16 is a name known to allFred16 is a name known to allFred16 is a name known to allFred16 is a name known to allFred16 is a name known to allFred16 is a name known to all
Default Re: Do I admit defeat? E2 & B1 Declined (214b)

The problem you have is an E2 denial, B1 denial and ESTA denial tagged on you, within four months

I am unsure how long you would need to wait before a future application.
Applying again this year will likely look you are trying to hard
Fred16 is offline  
Old Feb 12th 2018, 1:55 pm
  #3  
MODERATOR
 
Noorah101's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Posts: 58,679
Noorah101 has a reputation beyond reputeNoorah101 has a reputation beyond reputeNoorah101 has a reputation beyond reputeNoorah101 has a reputation beyond reputeNoorah101 has a reputation beyond reputeNoorah101 has a reputation beyond reputeNoorah101 has a reputation beyond reputeNoorah101 has a reputation beyond reputeNoorah101 has a reputation beyond reputeNoorah101 has a reputation beyond reputeNoorah101 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Do I admit defeat? E2 & B1 Declined (214b)

Visa denials do not mean you can't use the VWP in the future. Next year fill out an ESTA and see what happens.

I don't see any way for you to work in the USA in the near future, though.

Rene
Noorah101 is offline  
Old Feb 12th 2018, 2:03 pm
  #4  
MODERATOR
 
Noorah101's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Posts: 58,679
Noorah101 has a reputation beyond reputeNoorah101 has a reputation beyond reputeNoorah101 has a reputation beyond reputeNoorah101 has a reputation beyond reputeNoorah101 has a reputation beyond reputeNoorah101 has a reputation beyond reputeNoorah101 has a reputation beyond reputeNoorah101 has a reputation beyond reputeNoorah101 has a reputation beyond reputeNoorah101 has a reputation beyond reputeNoorah101 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Do I admit defeat? E2 & B1 Declined (214b)

Originally Posted by Fred16
The problem you have is an E2 denial, B1 denial and ESTA denial tagged on you, within four months
I don't see from his post where he has an ESTA denial.

Rene
Noorah101 is offline  
Old Feb 12th 2018, 2:06 pm
  #5  
BE Enthusiast
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 379
Fred16 is a name known to allFred16 is a name known to allFred16 is a name known to allFred16 is a name known to allFred16 is a name known to allFred16 is a name known to allFred16 is a name known to allFred16 is a name known to allFred16 is a name known to allFred16 is a name known to allFred16 is a name known to all
Default Re: Do I admit defeat? E2 & B1 Declined (214b)

Originally Posted by Noorah101
I don't see from his post where he has an ESTA denial.

Rene
It was on his previous thread
Fred16 is offline  
Old Feb 12th 2018, 2:15 pm
  #6  
Just Joined
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 25
AdamBaseman95 is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Do I admit defeat? E2 & B1 Declined (214b)

Thank you both for your responses, It sounds like I will need to give it at least a year to try my ESTA again and possibly then apply for my B2 if the ESTA is denied again.

Can anyone provide me with some clarification in regards to section 214(b) And what I can do in a years time which will increase my chances of getting a B1 approved? Sounds like I need to provide some serious home ties. (Mortgage etc)
AdamBaseman95 is offline  
Old Feb 12th 2018, 2:19 pm
  #7  
Concierge
 
mikelincs's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2006
Location: ex ex-pat, in Taunton
Posts: 27,205
mikelincs has a reputation beyond reputemikelincs has a reputation beyond reputemikelincs has a reputation beyond reputemikelincs has a reputation beyond reputemikelincs has a reputation beyond reputemikelincs has a reputation beyond reputemikelincs has a reputation beyond reputemikelincs has a reputation beyond reputemikelincs has a reputation beyond reputemikelincs has a reputation beyond reputemikelincs has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Do I admit defeat? E2 & B1 Declined (214b)

Originally Posted by AdamBaseman95
Thank you both for your responses, It sounds like I will need to give it at least a year to try my ESTA again and possibly then apply for my B2 if the ESTA is denied again.

Can anyone provide me with some clarification in regards to section 214(b) And what I can do in a years time which will increase my chances of getting a B1 approved? Sounds like I need to provide some serious home ties. (Mortgage etc)
You really need to show some home ties, it's almost certain that that is why you have these denials.
mikelincs is offline  
Old Feb 12th 2018, 2:20 pm
  #8  
Just Joined
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 25
AdamBaseman95 is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Do I admit defeat? E2 & B1 Declined (214b)

Originally Posted by mikelincs
You really need to show some home ties, it's almost certain that that is why you have these denials.
Agreed, unfortunately for a youngster having a professional full time job in the UK is just not enough these days.
AdamBaseman95 is offline  
Old Feb 12th 2018, 2:24 pm
  #9  
Deep in the woods of CT
 
Nutmegger's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 7,002
Nutmegger has a reputation beyond reputeNutmegger has a reputation beyond reputeNutmegger has a reputation beyond reputeNutmegger has a reputation beyond reputeNutmegger has a reputation beyond reputeNutmegger has a reputation beyond reputeNutmegger has a reputation beyond reputeNutmegger has a reputation beyond reputeNutmegger has a reputation beyond reputeNutmegger has a reputation beyond reputeNutmegger has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Do I admit defeat? E2 & B1 Declined (214b)

Originally Posted by AdamBaseman95
Thank you both for your responses, It sounds like I will need to give it at least a year to try my ESTA again and possibly then apply for my B2 if the ESTA is denied again.

Can anyone provide me with some clarification in regards to section 214(b) And what I can do in a years time which will increase my chances of getting a B1 approved? Sounds like I need to provide some serious home ties. (Mortgage etc)

What does your company have to say about all this? They apparently want you to be in the US, but you are the one racking up all the denials on your record. Have they consulted an attorney?
Nutmegger is offline  
Old Feb 12th 2018, 2:29 pm
  #10  
Lost in BE Cyberspace
 
Joined: Nov 2011
Location: Somewhere between Vancouver & St Johns
Posts: 19,847
Former Lancastrian has a reputation beyond reputeFormer Lancastrian has a reputation beyond reputeFormer Lancastrian has a reputation beyond reputeFormer Lancastrian has a reputation beyond reputeFormer Lancastrian has a reputation beyond reputeFormer Lancastrian has a reputation beyond reputeFormer Lancastrian has a reputation beyond reputeFormer Lancastrian has a reputation beyond reputeFormer Lancastrian has a reputation beyond reputeFormer Lancastrian has a reputation beyond reputeFormer Lancastrian has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Do I admit defeat? E2 & B1 Declined (214b)

Originally Posted by AdamBaseman95
Agreed, unfortunately for a youngster having a professional full time job in the UK is just not enough these days.
Because its subjective to what a person reviewing an application is happy with.
I do this job for the Northern neighbours (Canada) and we albeit have different rules we think somewhat the same regarding strong ties to a country.
In no particular order

1. Full time employment and how long for regardless of how many employers.
2. Mortgage where applicable if not have they rented or just living in mum and dads basement although from what I can remember the UK doesn't have a lot of basements.
3. Do they have a vehicle be it purchased or on lease?
4. Bank accounts how long and have they secured loans in the past and have good credit history.
5. What is the make up of the family and are they close?

Im sure there are others besides the usual return ticket, length of stay being requested and any criminal convictions.
Former Lancastrian is offline  
Old Feb 12th 2018, 4:07 pm
  #11  
Account Closed
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 2
scrubbedexpat099 is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Do I admit defeat? E2 & B1 Declined (214b)

Why does not your Employer send someone else?
scrubbedexpat099 is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.