B2 Visa, Administrative Processing, Traveling under VWP etc
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B2 Visa, Administrative Processing, Traveling under VWP etc
Hello All,
Have been looking through these forums for the past few days trying to get some conclusive answers to queries I had regarding the visa application process. I have read up on most of the general info however was wondering for some help with a few questions.
Does the wait time for AP at all depend on what type of visa you apply for? I've applied for a B2 visa and would imagine since it is just a 6 month approval, it could take less time than someone applying for say an H1-B.
Is there any sure answer of whether traveling to the US under VWP resets your AP process? Can you travel to other countries?
I know this is a DC problem not an Embassy problem so are there avenues of following up with any particular agencies which could help speed up this process? I have heard mixed things
Full disclosure: I am a British Citizen of Pakistani origin (and have a Pakistani name). I pursued higher education at a prestigious US university (graduating in 2011) and wanted to visit the US to assess a potential angel investment opportunity. The realm of activities I would be doing while in the US were also covered under the VWP however, there was a possibility I would have to be in the US for longer than 90 days so I applied for a B2 visa to be safe. I was thinking I could travel to the US for now and return in a month or two if the process is still ongoing but am scared to do so if it will reset my AP. I had my interview with the US Embassy in London on the 14th of January. The lady who interviewed me only asked the reason of my visit and then told me she would approve my visa but it could take "a few weeks". I wasn't sure if this was just generic terminology she says to everyone who undergoes AP (even those who have to wait months or years), or if she actually meant my case.
Thoughts?
Would really appreciate constructive and helpful comments. Thank you in advance for taking the time to read this.
Best,
R
Have been looking through these forums for the past few days trying to get some conclusive answers to queries I had regarding the visa application process. I have read up on most of the general info however was wondering for some help with a few questions.
Does the wait time for AP at all depend on what type of visa you apply for? I've applied for a B2 visa and would imagine since it is just a 6 month approval, it could take less time than someone applying for say an H1-B.
Is there any sure answer of whether traveling to the US under VWP resets your AP process? Can you travel to other countries?
I know this is a DC problem not an Embassy problem so are there avenues of following up with any particular agencies which could help speed up this process? I have heard mixed things
Full disclosure: I am a British Citizen of Pakistani origin (and have a Pakistani name). I pursued higher education at a prestigious US university (graduating in 2011) and wanted to visit the US to assess a potential angel investment opportunity. The realm of activities I would be doing while in the US were also covered under the VWP however, there was a possibility I would have to be in the US for longer than 90 days so I applied for a B2 visa to be safe. I was thinking I could travel to the US for now and return in a month or two if the process is still ongoing but am scared to do so if it will reset my AP. I had my interview with the US Embassy in London on the 14th of January. The lady who interviewed me only asked the reason of my visit and then told me she would approve my visa but it could take "a few weeks". I wasn't sure if this was just generic terminology she says to everyone who undergoes AP (even those who have to wait months or years), or if she actually meant my case.
Thoughts?
Would really appreciate constructive and helpful comments. Thank you in advance for taking the time to read this.
Best,
R
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Re: B2 Visa, Administrative Processing, Traveling under VWP etc
It takes as long as it takes, I dont think it has any bearing what type of visa you are applying for. At the end of the day they are conducting checks to stop potential threats entering the country - how long those checks take and how much it might inconviance they subject is of little concern when ensuring national security!
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Re: B2 Visa, Administrative Processing, Traveling under VWP etc
Is there any sure answer of whether traveling to the US under VWP resets your AP process?
Can you travel to other countries?
I know this is a DC problem not an Embassy problem so are there avenues of following up with any particular agencies which could help speed up this process?
I have heard mixed things
Thoughts?
Ian
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Re: B2 Visa, Administrative Processing, Traveling under VWP etc
Is there any sure answer of whether traveling to the US under VWP resets your AP process?
Can you travel to other countries?
I know this is a DC problem not an Embassy problem so are there avenues of following up with any particular agencies which could help speed up this process?
The lady who interviewed me only asked the reason of my visit and then told me she would approve my visa but it could take "a few weeks". I wasn't sure if this was just generic terminology she says to everyone who undergoes AP (even those who have to wait months or years), or if she actually meant my case.
Rene
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One suspects that ESTA will not be approved while a file is open for AP. You won't be traveling to the States at all until it is resolved.
It will take however long it takes to make sure you aren't a terrorist with the same name or whatever.
It will take however long it takes to make sure you aren't a terrorist with the same name or whatever.
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No. The time the AP takes depends on the issue(s) being investigated and degree of difficulty finding the information required to resolve the issue(s).
No, there is never a "sure answer".
What do you mean "DC problem"? Whatever, there is no "following up" or finding status other than 2 possibilities - onging or completed.
Regards, JEff
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Re: B2 Visa, Administrative Processing, Traveling under VWP etc
Whilst i agree with 99% of what everyone else has said you can actually check on the status of your AP by calling the state dept. in Washington. +1-202-663-1225 option 1/3/9/0 you will be asked for your file number or passport number.
With AP, there is alot of waiting to be done but generally if its a flat denial you would know pretty quick.
With AP, there is alot of waiting to be done but generally if its a flat denial you would know pretty quick.
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Re: B2 Visa, Administrative Processing, Traveling under VWP etc
also i just wanted to add that the process can be helped by speaking to the "right people".
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Rene
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Ive spoken with them a few times and depending on where your file is the process they will tell you a certain amount-i found out that mine was back from ARO and just sitting at the embassy in Madrid(the embassy here dont really keep you informed of anything).
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Who is "them"? If you want to be secretive... fine. But if you're going to announce that you can speak to the "right people", then please articulate who those "right people" are. Otherwise, people might just get the idea that you're bragging about knowing something they don't... and isn't that just too bad for them!
As a practical matter though, how does that information help you? You still don't know if the process is complete or not; you don't know whether things went well or not; you don't know if it's sitting in the approve pile or the reject pile... should I go on?
Ian
i found out that mine was back from ARO and just sitting at the embassy in Madrid(the embassy here dont really keep you informed of anything).
Ian
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Re: B2 Visa, Administrative Processing, Traveling under VWP etc
Who is "them"? If you want to be secretive... fine. But if you're going to announce that you can speak to the "right people", then please articulate who those "right people" are. Otherwise, people might just get the idea that you're bragging about knowing something they don't... and isn't that just too bad for them!
As a practical matter though, how does that information help you? You still don't know if the process is complete or not; you don't know whether things went well or not; you don't know if it's sitting in the approve pile or the reject pile... should I go on?
Ian
As a practical matter though, how does that information help you? You still don't know if the process is complete or not; you don't know whether things went well or not; you don't know if it's sitting in the approve pile or the reject pile... should I go on?
Ian
When i say 'them' i am of course referring to the state dept in Washington as per my previous comments. and in no way am boasting as that serves no one.
Sorry to say that you are wrong; I have found out that my file has is still open, not rejected, ARO have finished there side of things and i am now sending my passport back to the embassy-all this without waiting for the embassy to contact me as they are slow to do anything.
Persistence is key.
Granted, every region is going to be different but that doesnt stop someone taking the initiative to call up. Maybe i'm different in the sense that i'll always seek out exactly what im looking for rather than to wait just because i was told to. As you know i live in Spain so some of the people in CBP/DHS/State that i got in touch with wont be able to help those applying in say London.
For example, CBP in Rome has jurisdiction over quite few countries in Europe incl Spain when it comes to certain issues on visas. Yes, visas are generally a State dept issue but they all communicate with each other.
A very tool ive found is LinkedIn-most embassy staff are listed on there for each region. Anyone that works or has worked in a sales environment, this would be second nature to network and to find the relevant person.
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Re: B2 Visa, Administrative Processing, Traveling under VWP etc
A person who is waiting for AP is considered to have been denied a visa unless and until they are issued the visa. All applications are recorded as issued or refused within a business day. There is no such thing as a pending visa application.
Visa denials must be disclosed on the ESTA application and/or the VWP Form I-94W.
Visa denials must be disclosed on the ESTA application and/or the VWP Form I-94W.