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Old Mar 8th 2015, 5:47 pm   #16
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I think there has been an issue raised regarding pensioners who have decided to retire abroad ... unless they regularly (once a year?) and for extended period of time, return to the UK, when the basic national pension goes up, the pensions of those living abroad, will NOT be increased ... Now, it was a few years ago that HMG tried imposing this rule, but maybe the EU, has told HMG, that they can't impose that on people living in an EU country.

If however, you are pretty young, you'll be paying into some other pension scheme, so this is pretty irrelevant, but it certainly could be an issue to anyone retiring abroad, in or outside the EU.
In the EU increases are automatic, as they are in the USA and many other countries, notable exceptions are Canada and Australia.
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I think there has been an issue raised regarding pensioners who have decided to retire abroad ... unless they regularly (once a year?) and for extended period of time, return to the UK, when the basic national pension goes up, the pensions of those living abroad, will NOT be increased ... Now, it was a few years ago that HMG tried imposing this rule, but maybe the EU, has told HMG, that they can't impose that on people living in an EU country.

If however, you are pretty young, you'll be paying into some other pension scheme, so this is pretty irrelevant, but it certainly could be an issue to anyone retiring abroad, in or outside the EU.

Unless things have changed without me knowing about it, there is an agreement that allows the increases to be instigated to those living abroad in the EU. It doesnt apply to non eu countries, so if you live in Canada or Australia you dont get it. However certainly in Spain my wife had the annual increase each year

EDIT: What he said above in fact, I missed that before I posted :-)
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I think there has been an issue raised regarding pensioners who have decided to retire abroad ... unless they regularly (once a year?) and for extended period of time, return to the UK, when the basic national pension goes up, the pensions of those living abroad, will NOT be increased ... Now, it was a few years ago that HMG tried imposing this rule, but maybe the EU, has told HMG, that they can't impose that on people living in an EU country.

If however, you are pretty young, you'll be paying into some other pension scheme, so this is pretty irrelevant, but it certainly could be an issue to anyone retiring abroad, in or outside the EU.
Are you saying that if we retire to Turkey, our UK pensions won't increase annually, because Turkey is not in the EU?
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Are you saying that if we retire to Turkey, our UK pensions won't increase annually, because Turkey is not in the EU?
It will depend on whether Turkey has a reciprocal agreement with the UK, if not, then your pensions will be frozen at the level when you move there, as per this document, which does show that pensions paid to UK pensioners living in Turkey will get the increases.

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...-state-pension
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Have a look here: This is the current situation.

Pensions, benefits and tax when retiring abroad | nidirect

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UK State Retirement Pension is updated for those resident in Turkey. Main victims of the "frozen pension" swindle were in South Africa, Canada and Australia A group of pensioners in South Africa took legal action against HMG. They lost. You can't fight City Hall.
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UK State Retirement Pension is updated for those resident in Turkey. Main victims of the "frozen pension" swindle were in South Africa, Canada and Australia A group of pensioners in South Africa took legal action against HMG. They lost. You can't fight City Hall.
what they should have done is to fight the government of the country they were in, it's these governments that won't allow a reciprocal agreement, therefore no increase.
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I would not fancy the chances of anyone in South Africa taking on President Zuma.
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