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Old Oct 28th 2009, 6:30 am
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Originally Posted by zargof
I also have a fairly broad Yorkshire accent, so the first time someone said I talked posh was something of a surprise.

What I've found interesting is that here in Iowa I don't have nearly as much trouble with people understanding me as I did in Georgia.
I have come across 1 person who says I sound posh, I think people in LA are just rude though and can understand me but choose to be picky

Where in Yorkshire are you from Zargof? I have the misfortune to have a Wakefield accent, probably one of the worse around
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Old Oct 28th 2009, 12:59 pm
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Originally Posted by N1cky
I have the misfortune to have a Wakefield accent, probably one of the worse around
A Wakefield accent is pretty grim
My accent is a mixture of Dewsbury and South Cumbria and people over here have a hard time believing I come from anywhere other than Scotland or Australia
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Old Oct 28th 2009, 1:07 pm
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Originally Posted by helwardman
A Wakefield accent is pretty grim
My accent is a mixture of Dewsbury and South Cumbria and people over here have a hard time believing I come from anywhere other than Scotland or Australia
Occasionally, I've been asked here where we-meaning DH AND I are from. I can understand why they would ask about him, but me, er not so much.

Anyway, I answer, he's from old England and I'm from New England.
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Occasionally, I've been asked here where we-meaning DH AND I are from. I can understand why they would ask about him, but me, er not so much.

Anyway, I answer, he's from old England and I'm from New England.
We tell people DH is from Kentucky.
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Old Oct 28th 2009, 2:02 pm
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Originally Posted by Wilto
black men who put on this ghetto accent (as my wife says) and use a lot of slang and don't pronounce words properly, ask = axe, four = foe, nine = nigh
A former neighbour in Greenwich was a well spoken middle class young man from Jamaica and he used Axe (ask) and Flim (film), I learned such words come from Jamaican Patois and are used by speakers of Jamaican Standard English (although he was discouraged by his parents who thought it low class). In contrast a Trinidadian friend now living in CA speaks perfect RP (with a very sexy baritone) and uses no Patois, so this must be a Jamaican thing. There are significant Jamaican expat communities in Miami, New York City, Toronto, Hartford, & here in Washington, D.C, so it makes sense some African-Americans pick up and adopt Patois words.
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Originally Posted by Dewey
A former neighbour in Greenwich was a well spoken middle class young man from Jamaica and he used Axe (ask) and Flim (film), I learned such words come from Jamaican Patois and are used by speakers of Jamaican Standard English (although he was discouraged by his parents who thought it low class). In contrast a Trinidadian friend now living in CA speaks perfect RP (with a very sexy baritone) and uses no Patois, so this must be a Jamaican thing. There are significant Jamaican expat communities in Miami, New York City, Toronto, Hartford, & here in Washington, D.C, so it makes sense some African-Americans pick up and adopt Patois words.
There's quite a bit of "axe for ask" type stuff going on here in South Louisiana.
Some of the broad Cajun accents can be pretty difficult to understand.

When I was working offshore earlier this year, a guy on the platform listened to me talk to someone else for a while then asked me if I was from "up north". I think he meant New York rather than Yorkshire.
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Old Oct 28th 2009, 2:37 pm
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Originally Posted by tamms_1965
We tell people DH is from Kentucky.
LOLOLOLOL!!
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Old Oct 28th 2009, 2:38 pm
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Googlin' it appears axe is in fact used in Trinidad Patois. One site suggests it's used in Scouse dialect so maybe it has a much older etymology, perhaps brought to the Caribbean by Liverpudlians and from there via the South into African American vernacular English?
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Originally Posted by Dewey
A former neighbour in Greenwich was a well spoken middle class young man from Jamaica and he used Axe (ask) and Flim (film), I learned such words come from Jamaican Patois and are used by speakers of Jamaican Standard English (although he was discouraged by his parents who thought it low class).
Yes, also St Lucia etc. Not an indicator of social class or education.

This reminds me of a time, a year or two ago, when I was in a pub in Hammersmith. I'd stepped outside for a smoke and saw this young, white kid walk up to another smoker and ask for a cigarette - in a cod "black gangsta" accent.

The man replied "That depends, why are you talking like a n****r?", then looked up to see about 15 to 20 black people walking past!
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Old Oct 28th 2009, 2:40 pm
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Originally Posted by Dewey
A former neighbour in Greenwich was a well spoken middle class young man from Jamaica and he used Axe (ask) and Flim (film), I learned such words come from Jamaican Patois and are used by speakers of Jamaican Standard English (although he was discouraged by his parents who thought it low class). In contrast a Trinidadian friend now living in CA speaks perfect RP (with a very sexy baritone) and uses no Patois, so this must be a Jamaican thing. There are significant Jamaican expat communities in Miami, New York City, Toronto, Hartford, & here in Washington, D.C, so it makes sense some African-Americans pick up and adopt Patois words.
Except- I had a friend from LA born and bred, who was white and used axe.......

Also oysters is another one, she used to pronouce it oys churs.
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Old Oct 28th 2009, 2:46 pm
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This etymology dictionary suggests ax for ask was a common dialect variation in old/middle English, so maybe it's another example of where some American's have kept older versions of words than we have.
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Originally Posted by Dewey
This etymology dictionary suggests ax for ask was a common dialect variation in old/middle English, so maybe it's another example of where some American's have kept older versions of words than we have.
I thik that's true, it's just survived more in some areas more than others. Goodness knows we have some funny old expressions back home.
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Originally Posted by N1cky
I have come across 1 person who says I sound posh, I think people in LA are just rude though and can understand me but choose to be picky

Where in Yorkshire are you from Zargof? I have the misfortune to have a Wakefield accent, probably one of the worse around
I'm from East Yorkshire, Driffield, a small town about halfway between York and Hell... err... I mean Hull. There are times I've regretted leaving Blighty, but I've never regretted leaving Driffield.
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Originally Posted by zargof
I'm from East Yorkshire, Driffield, a small town about halfway between York and Hell... err... I mean Hull. There are times I've regretted leaving Blighty, but I've never regretted leaving Driffield.
I think I've been to Driffield. Pub called the White Horse, gas-lamps, live music?
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Originally Posted by Dewey
There are significant Jamaican expat communities in Miami, New York City, Toronto, Hartford, & here in Washington, D.C, so it makes sense some African-Americans pick up and adopt Patois words.
Yep, a lot of islanders in Toronto. Years ago I worked with a guy from Trinidad (he pronounced it Trin'dad) When he wanted to mess with you he'd switch to an island patois that was undecipherable.
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