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Old Jul 21st 2017, 10:48 am
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Originally Posted by mikelincs
The teens can't be prosecuted for anything.
I'm sure I read something somewhere about a case where someone was found "guilty" through a "failure to act".

I just cant place where it was.
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Originally Posted by Nutek
I'm sure I read something somewhere about a case where someone was found "guilty" through a "failure to act".

I just cant place where it was.
There's English case law on that, dunno about in the US.
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Originally Posted by Bahtatboy
There's English case law on that, dunno about in the US.
Cops here would probably have turned up and shot the guy.
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Originally Posted by Nutek
I'm sure I read something somewhere about a case where someone was found "guilty" through a "failure to act".

I just cant place where it was.
I think certain states (cities?) in the US have 'failure to report' laws, where you can be prosecuted if you knowingly fail to report an incident that results in bodily harm or death.
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Are they being sued by Phil Collins?
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Are they being sued by Phil Collins?
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Seems Florida has no law that required the teens to call for help, and while police are frustrated, there is just nothing they can do. But maybe Florida lawmakers will take notice and create legislation so this sort of thing doesn't happen in the future.

Not sure how anyone could sit and watch someone in need of help and not at least call for help. I can understand someone not rushing into the water to help, but at least call 9-11.

But society is more and more of a me society with little regard to others, even up this way people will walk past someone passed out unconscious on a side walk and not think twice which happened in a nearby city, eventually someone did thankfully stop and rendered aid and called paramedics.


But some good comes out of Florida.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...mexico-florida
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Originally Posted by Nutek
I'm sure I read something somewhere about a case where someone was found "guilty" through a "failure to act".

I just cant place where it was.
Seinfeld finale.
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Seems Florida has no law that required the teens to call for help, and while police are frustrated, there is just nothing they can do. But maybe Florida lawmakers will take notice and create legislation so this sort of thing doesn't happen in the future.

Not sure how anyone could sit and watch someone in need of help and not at least call for help. I can understand someone not rushing into the water to help, but at least call 9-11.

But society is more and more of a me society with little regard to others, even up this way people will walk past someone passed out unconscious on a side walk and not think twice which happened in a nearby city, eventually someone did thankfully stop and rendered aid and called paramedics.


But some good comes out of Florida.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...mexico-florida
It's ****ed up beyond words. I can't imagine how anyone could witness that and not help in some way (I mean, I can't swim so I'm not going in the water but I'd call a bloody ambulance), let alone making fun of the person in trouble
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Not quite what I had in mind, but it will do.
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Thinking on it some more... I THINK it was a guy "allowing" his date to drown. My memory sucks.

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Originally Posted by Jsmth321
Seems Florida has no law that required the teens to call for help, and while police are frustrated, there is just nothing they can do. But maybe Florida lawmakers will take notice and create legislation so this sort of thing doesn't happen in the future. ....
There might not be a breach of criminal law, but I bet there is civil liability and some tort lawyers are rubbing their hands at taking a high profile case. ..... And it is civil liability which will drive a change in the criminal code.
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Originally Posted by Anian
Are they being sued by Phil Collins?
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Originally Posted by Bahtatboy
There is an old rumour that the song In The Air Tonight was written by Phil Collins after either witnessing a man drowning and not helping, or seeing someone else witness a man drowning and not helping.

I'm going to have that song in my head for the rest of the day.
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Originally Posted by Bahtatboy
As mentioned by Anian, it's to do with 'In The Air Tonight'. The song also includes the line:

"Well if you told me you were drowning, I would not lend a hand"
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