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Old Apr 4th 2017, 4:03 am
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Originally Posted by WEBlue
Here's an interesting FDA table I came across. It tells the maximum number of packets of each sweetener that the FDA considers "safe" for human consumption.

https://www.fda.gov/Food/Ingredients...m#SummaryTable


Aspartame (Equal, blue) = 75 packets
Saccharin (Sweet 'n low, pink) = 45
Splenda (Sucralose, yellow) = 23
Stevia (Rebiana, green) = 9
Presumably that's 'at one time', otherwise I'm one cup of coffee away from death
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Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
Presumably that's 'at one time', otherwise I'm one cup of coffee away from death
Oh Sultan, I do have to wonder if you read the FDA link with the table I provided?

How much high-intensity sweetener is safe to eat?
During premarket review, FDA established an acceptable daily intake (ADI) level for each of the five high-intensity sweeteners approved as food additives. � An ADI is the amount of a substance that is considered safe to consume each day over the course of a person’s lifetime.
Joking aside, I think it's possible I may occasionally be going over my daily limit of Stevia.... It's only 9 packets per day! Once in a while-- when I need to drive long distances, for instance--I need a big strong cup of coffee with 4 Stevia packets.

I may have to go back to saccharine, which I haven't had for years. That ADI is more generous.

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Oh Sultan, I do have to wonder if you read the FDA link with the table I provided?



Joking aside, I think it's possible I may occasionally be going over my daily limit of Stevia.... It's only 9 packets per day! Once in a while-- when I need to drive long distances, for instance--I need a big strong cup of coffee with 4 Stevia packets.

I may have to go back to saccharine, which I haven't had for years. That ADI is huge.
What's wrong with sugar in moderation?
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Originally Posted by WEBlue
Oh Sultan, I do have to wonder if you read the FDA link with the table I provided?
Yeah, that would have dampened by hyperbole, wouldn't it?

Originally Posted by WEBlue
I may have to go back to saccharine, which I haven't had for years. That ADI is huge.
I use Sweet & Low in my coffee, I think that is saccharine based. It's not too bad, but I think the caloric benefit outweighs any potential negatives so make of it what you will
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Originally Posted by moneypenny20
What's wrong with sugar in moderation?
Nothing, but if you're a fatty like me, every calorie is sacred. Not that two spoonfuls of sugar is a huge amount (32 calories), but it can add up when you're using milk/cream/creamer as well.

I tend to think that if I'm going to drink calories, it may as well be beer
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Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
Nothing, but if you're a fatty like me, every calorie is sacred. Not that two spoonfuls of sugar is a huge amount (32 calories), but it can add up when you're using milk/cream/creamer as well.

I tend to think that if I'm going to drink calories, it may as well be beer
I gave up sugar in coffee about 30 years ago I have 3ish cans of full fat coke a week and Ribena about the same. I think that's my sugar total give or take the odd lemon cheesecake. The husband would take three heaped in his tea/coffee given half a chance but then he's a string bean. He'd probably have me certified if I suggested he go to sweeteners.
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Originally Posted by moneypenny20
I gave up sugar in coffee about 30 years ago I have 3ish cans of full fat coke a week and Ribena about the same. I think that's my sugar total give or take the odd lemon cheesecake. The husband would take three heaped in his tea/coffee given half a chance but then he's a string bean. He'd probably have me certified if I suggested he go to sweeteners.
I only recently started drinking coffee again after about 8 years of not having any. I used to drink it black and plain but I find I prefer it a bit sweeter now (and that helps me fight the urge to eat a big honking donut or slice of cake while I drink it, too )

I don't take sugar in my tea though, only a little milk, and I drink mostly water with the odd can of diet/zero type pop when I fancy a change. That way I have some margin of error if I fancy a bar of chocolate, or some ice cream.
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Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
Yeah, that would have dampened by hyperbole, wouldn't it?
Oh most definitely.

Besides, I think most of us will do anything to avoid reading 'suggested' links--I certainly do.



Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
I use Sweet & Low in my coffee, I think that is saccharine based. It's not too bad, but I think the caloric benefit outweighs any potential negatives so make of it what you will
Yes, the pink sachets are saccharine. For years & years when I was a lot younger it was the preferred (or maybe the only?) sweetener. I'll happily use it if there's nothing else....

I'm thinking to mix my sweeteners if I'm forced to consume the giant Dunkin Donuts coffee to do the regular tri-state drive to the rellies. Half & half.

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Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
Nothing, but if you're a fatty like me, every calorie is sacred. Not that two spoonfuls of sugar is a huge amount (32 calories), but it can add up when you're using milk/cream/creamer as well.

I tend to think that if I'm going to drink calories, it may as well be beer
Ditto for me. Not beer--which I hate--but I just can't resist a big loaded jacket potato every now & then.... I'm a former fatty (knock on wood). Though my doctor says my BMI is now good & I should stop starving myself, I can feel those pounds hovering around my hips & butt, just waiting their chance to jump back on.

Originally Posted by moneypenny20
I gave up sugar in coffee about 30 years ago I have 3ish cans of full fat coke a week and Ribena about the same. I think that's my sugar total give or take the odd lemon cheesecake. The husband would take three heaped in his tea/coffee given half a chance but then he's a string bean. He'd probably have me certified if I suggested he go to sweeteners.
See...you are able to practice moderation, Moneypenny. And your husband too. Some of us aren't good at that.
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Originally Posted by WEBlue
Oh most definitely.

Besides, I think most of us will do anything to avoid reading 'suggested' links--I certainly do.
That being said, I'd love to see who's using 45 packets of sweetener in a day

Originally Posted by WEBlue
Yes, the pink sachets are saccharine. For years & years when I was a lot younger it was the preferred (or maybe the only?) sweetener. I'll happily use it if there's nothing else....

I'm thinking to mix my sweeteners if I'm forced to consume the giant Duncin Donuts coffee to do the regular tri-state drive to the rellies. Half & half.
I mean, in cases like that you might as well just use the normal sugar. I know when I'm on trips, eating carefully tends to go out the window, and as Nutek always says, vacation calories don't count.
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Ditto for me. Not beer--which I hate--but I just can't resist a big loaded jacket potato every now & then.... I'm a former fatty (knock on wood). Though my doctor says my BMI is now good & I should stop starving myself, I can feel those pounds hovering around my hips & butt, just waiting their chance to jump back on.
I still eat potatoes now and then, just not every day like I used to. I eat a couple of apples a day too and they obviously have sugar in them but they also have fiber and all kinds of other good things that I see as offsetting their carbs.

I just try to avoid taking in extra calories in drinks, so I have more 'room' for things like potatoes, rice, or toast. Beyond that, it's just maths. Take in less than you burn.

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See...you are able to practice moderation, Moneypenny. And your husband too. Some of us aren't good at that.
I'm not good at moderation, either
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.... and as Nutek always says, vacation calories don't count.
As everyone here knows, everything Nutek says is very wise.
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As everyone here knows, everything Nutek says is very wise.
He's not steered me wrong yet.
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I buy the 1500 packet box of Sweet'N'Low from Sam's, which lasts several years.

I also drink caffeine free Diet Coke as my soda of choice.

So please don't preach at me. There's so many warnings, even breathing has its dangers!
One 12 oz. can caffeine free Diet Coke has approx. 200 mg Aspartame (blue packet)

I don't drink diet soda much, but I have friends & family who mainline it & get the jitters if they have to go a day without their favourite can or 3.... So I got curious about which sweeteners are in which sodas, and I found this table that shows clearly which type and how much for all the typical diet soda brands.

http://static.diabetesselfmanagement...SM0310_012.pdf

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One 12 oz. can caffeine free Diet Coke has approx. 200 mg Aspartame (blue packet)

I don't drink diet soda much, but I have friends & family who mainline it & get the jitters if they have to go a day without their favourite can or 3.... So I got curious about which sweeteners are in which sodas, and I found this table that shows clearly which type and how much for all the typical diet soda brands.

http://static.diabetesselfmanagement...SM0310_012.pdf
Aspartame is truly evil shit. Weirdly the only migraine meds that work for me have Aspartame in. Life sucks sometimes!
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