Parking Laws Are Strangling America
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I watched the first couple of minutes, then gave up. I believe I agree with him, it’s very bad. BUT instead of making a lengthy video full of annoying visual jokes, how about just writing it up? Just the facts, no facetious presentation techniques and music. I’m sure I’m not the only person who’d much prefer just to be presented with the facts and argument, without the annoying visual & aural razzmatazz..
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I watched the first couple of minutes, then gave up. I believe I agree with him, it’s very bad. BUT instead of making a lengthy video full of annoying visual jokes, how about just writing it up? Just the facts, no facetious presentation techniques and music. I’m sure I’m not the only person who’d much prefer just to be presented with the facts and argument, without the annoying visual & aural razzmatazz..
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I just dont have much tolerance for the facetious style of presentation and the obtrusive music. It’s kinda insulting, the only way to get factual information across is to make it entertaining, a song and dance.
My wife is often looking for “how to” videos for her chain saw and other small engines etc. These guys often do a really good tutorial that does the job, no music or entertainment needed.
My wife is often looking for “how to” videos for her chain saw and other small engines etc. These guys often do a really good tutorial that does the job, no music or entertainment needed.
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Is this the zeitgeist, I just watched another video on a very similar topic.
The pandering to cars and the over head street spaghetti are the two main things that make US urban and suburban spaces the ugliest I have seen,
The pandering to cars and the over head street spaghetti are the two main things that make US urban and suburban spaces the ugliest I have seen,
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On the actual topic, there’s an outdoor shopping center we sometimes visit in suburban Massachusetts. It’s like a strip mall, but it actually has businesses on all four sides of a parking lot. There’s a Wholefoods, REI, DMV, a cinema, Old Navy, various clothing stores, and bars & restaurants. So different businesses that are busy at different times of day. That’s gotta be a more efficient use of parking spaces than each business having its own lot.
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An issue I have with these open air malls, is trolley management. They are designed to hint at parking and then shoping and returning to your car, but because each store uses its own trolleys and its own trolley return spaces, to leave the car in one place would require multiple trips backwards and forwards, the one near us isn't small, end to end shops are a fair distanced spaced. So it encourages parking, shopping, then car to next store.
I woukd think a shared trolley system would benefit everyone.
I woukd think a shared trolley system would benefit everyone.
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An issue I have with these open air malls, is trolley management. They are designed to hint at parking and then shoping and returning to your car, but because each store uses its own trolleys and its own trolley return spaces, to leave the car in one place would require multiple trips backwards and forwards, the one near us isn't small, end to end shops are a fair distanced spaced. So it encourages parking, shopping, then car to next store.
I woukd think a shared trolley system would benefit everyone.
I woukd think a shared trolley system would benefit everyone.
Many years ago the indoor mall here allowed just that. It was great. We could start off at Walmart getting what we needed there and then wander through the rest of the mall, conveniently wheeling - not carrying - our purchases.
Obviously for some stores it wasn't really convenient to take a cart in, so one of us would go in if needed while the other waited outside.
We'd finish at a supermarket on the opposite side/end, getting a taxi home from there and leaving the cart at the corral there. This was particularly convenient for us when my wife started to get mobility problems as the cart provided support as we went around.
Had we been drivers, we'd have just done a more circular route, ending up where we'd started at the parked car.
Some years ago they banned carts within the mall. For anyone with larger stuff or multiple purchases this likely meant leaving the store to put the stuff in their car and potentially driving off to a different part of the parking lot so as to enter and exit in a different part. Or not even bothering to visit another area which seems commercial suicide to me.
In our case it meant limiting what we could carry one end to the other or restricting us from going to the other end. And it was even worse when my wife needed a wheelchair. Within a supermarket we developed the skill of her holding the cart while I pushed her and, thus, the cart.
But we could no longer do that in the mall. We largely stopped going there - as did many others going by how few people were around - and I got quite bitter about the place.
She died in 2015 and I've only been back there once - a closing down sale in the shoe store. The mall was almost deserted.
There are other malls here - albeit of the strip variety - where it doesn't appear to be an issue. The stores just seem to accept they'll have some of their carts 3 premises down while other carts will be outside their stores.
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It sounds like an odd mix to have a store like Walmart at a regular indoor mall. I always thought of a shopping mall as having a load of specialist shops and department stores. A generalist/grocery/bulk store doesn't quite fit in, it's a completely different type of shopping.
America's obsession with cars has completely screwed over urban planning. Cars were supposed to mean independence, but now everyone is so reliant on them outside of urban areas that you are completely isolated without one. I remember often going to the shops with my friends when I was a child in the UK. My children can't reach either without a car or walking down a 55mph highway without a footpath.
America's obsession with cars has completely screwed over urban planning. Cars were supposed to mean independence, but now everyone is so reliant on them outside of urban areas that you are completely isolated without one. I remember often going to the shops with my friends when I was a child in the UK. My children can't reach either without a car or walking down a 55mph highway without a footpath.
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It sounds like an odd mix to have a store like Walmart at a regular indoor mall. I always thought of a shopping mall as having a load of specialist shops and department stores. A generalist/grocery/bulk store doesn't quite fit in, it's a completely different type of shopping.
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It sounds like an odd mix to have a store like Walmart at a regular indoor mall. I always thought of a shopping mall as having a load of specialist shops and department stores. A generalist/grocery/bulk store doesn't quite fit in, it's a completely different type of shopping.
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