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Old Jun 14th 2016, 1:28 pm
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They will be looking at the victims to see if there were any that he actually hooked up with. The massacre could have been to cover up a specific target.
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Trump says the punters should all have had guns strapped to their ankles


Like nobody at a club would ever get mad if someone spilt their drink and use whatever weapon was to hand...
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Originally Posted by Leslie
They will be looking at the victims to see if there were any that he actually hooked up with. The massacre could have been to cover up a specific target.
Hmmm, interesting. The "John Muhammad" theory.
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Originally Posted by dc koop
Christians don't go around shootings gays though, They just read the bible at them and tell them they're damned if they don't repent.
There are more than a thousand anti-gay hate crimes in the US each year: https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/uc.../victims_final

Given the makeup of the US population, it is a safe bet that most of those crimes are perpetrated by Christians.
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Originally Posted by RoadWarriorFromLP
There are more than a thousand anti-gay hate crimes in the US each year: https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/uc.../victims_final

Given the makeup of the US population, it is a safe bet that most of those crimes are perpetrated by Christians.
Or more like people who call themselves "Chrstians" but don't even know the basic concepts of the religion.
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Originally Posted by dc koop
Or more like people who call themselves "Chrstians" but don't even know the basic concepts of the religion.
So we're back to the No True Scotsman logical fallacy?
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The US has highest rate of gun crime, infant mortality, working hours, homelessness and poverty of any Western Country.

They have the least amount of sick time, vacation, parental leave and readily available healthcare of any Western country.

And we wonder why there is a mental health problem?

It's a big enough problem in the UK, maybe in the US people just hit breaking point without support.

http://www.smallbusiness.co.uk/news/...critical.thtml

Gerry Brennan, CEO of the company says, 'It’s a real economic concern, illustrated recently by health body BUPA, which said that over £29 billion is lost annually to the UK economy, with mental health cited again as the major issue.'

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All these revelations are confusing the simplistic narrative. Muslim terror plays well to the base, whereas gay hate crime is a harder sell.
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Originally Posted by sir_eccles
All these revelations are confusing the simplistic narrative. Muslim terror plays well to the base, whereas gay hate crime is a harder sell.
Possibly even gay self-hate crime, given that he had apparently been to this club several times before.
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So we're back to the No True Scotsman logical fallacy?
Are you familiar with the difference between correlation and causation? Most spree killers drive and/or own a car, but that doesn't mean that driving causes spree killing.

I am not aware of any Christan ministry in the US or UK that preaches and actively promotes killing, acts of terrorism, or "crusading". Unfortunately the same is not true of the muslims/mosques.
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Old Jun 14th 2016, 3:15 pm
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Are you familiar with the difference between correlation and causation? Most spree killers drive and/or own a car, but that doesn't mean that driving causes spree killing.

I am not aware of any Christan ministry in the US or UK that preaches and actively promotes killing, acts of terrorism, or "crusading". Unfortunately the same is not true of the muslims/mosques.
How have you managed to live in Dixie without figuring out that the Bible was used to justify slavery?

People have religions and they use them to justify whatever it is that they want to justify. Some Muslims are nice, some aren't. Some Christians are nice, some aren't.
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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
Possibly even gay self-hate crime, given that he had apparently been to this club several times before.
Maybe it was a workplace killing? Did he have a few bad clients?
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Originally Posted by RoadWarriorFromLP
How have you managed to live in Dixie without figuring out that the Bible was used to justify slavery?

People have religions and they use them to justify whatever it is that they want to justify. Some Muslims are nice, some aren't. Some Christians are nice, some aren't.
You also seem to struggle with the difference between the present and past tenses.
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You also seem to struggle with the difference between the present and past tenses.
"The good news is there are 50 less pedophiles in this world. Because these homosexuals are a bunch of disgusting perverts and pedophiles. That's who was the victim here — a bunch of just disgusting homosexuals at a gay bar."

-Steven Anderson, pastor of Faithful Word Baptist Church

Tempe Pastor Steven Anderson Praises Orlando Massacre for Leaving '50 Less Pedophiles in This World' (Video) | Phoenix New Times

Ancient history from two days ago.

Rolling your eyes as often as you do isn't doing your research skills any favors.
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I think he was gay himself. Why would a heterosexual male make a habit of hanging out at gay clubs? It seems he had been going to gay clubs for ten years. My theory is that he loathed the homosexual part of himself, specially since he was a Muslim and in the end he just went doolally.

I'll play the trick cyclist and conclude that his declaration of support for iSIS was to somehow ease his conscience over being gay and a MUslim
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