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Old Aug 15th 2017, 10:21 pm
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Originally Posted by Dorothy
People take the pee out of Americans for not knowing about the history or geography of other countries, but in reality, how many non-Americans can name more than a few states, or know about the country's history?
I think you are right that we should be a bit self reflective about what we know as we may criticise Americans. However, I think American history is probably better known that the history of any other overseas country for most people.

On the issue of naming States....there is a tradition in America culture that misunderstands the naming and locating of states and their capitals for historical and geographical knowledge and understanding. This is something I have shockingly witnessed from within a classroom by someone who was hired as a history teacher. (I should also point out I have witnessed excellent history teaching in an American classroom - though that was World History, still yet to see American history taught well, American mythology may be an obstacle that makes it harder to teach)
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Old Aug 15th 2017, 10:25 pm
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Originally Posted by Octang Frye View Post
I think it is wrong for Google and GoDaddy to de-list their domain registration.
Free speech/the 1st Amendment isn't about people who echo your beliefs.
It's to protect the speech that is abhorrent to you.
It is always interesting when people criticize a business for operating with freedom and using rights guaranteed to them by law, but the critics use the constitution and the law and desire for freedom as their reason to object.
"Free speech/the 1st Amendment" is still protecting any and all of those who have had their web sites removed.
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Old Aug 15th 2017, 10:59 pm
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WTF?

This thread looks like a crime scene. Six deleted posts?

Frye quoted me but I don't know which post he quoted or what he said. Any witnesses?
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Old Aug 15th 2017, 11:28 pm
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Default Re: It's all kicking off in Charlottesville, VA.

Originally Posted by Leslie
WTF?

This thread looks like a crime scene. Six deleted posts?

Frye quoted me but I don't know which post he quoted or what he said. Any witnesses?
"It's all kicking off on BE".
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Old Aug 15th 2017, 11:32 pm
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Originally Posted by Giantaxe
"It's all kicking off on BE".
One can always hope.
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Old Aug 16th 2017, 12:16 am
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Originally Posted by Leslie
WTF?

This thread looks like a crime scene. Six deleted posts?

Frye quoted me but I don't know which post he quoted or what he said. Any witnesses?
Really, he had no insights of value. He seems angry. I called him out on his meaningless formulation of "politically incorrect" speech. (Illegal in the UK, according to him.) He melted away like a snowflake on the kitchen range.
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Default Re: It's all kicking off in Charlottesville, VA.

Originally Posted by Leslie
WTF?

This thread looks like a crime scene. Six deleted posts?

Frye quoted me but I don't know which post he quoted or what he said. Any witnesses?
He said how eloquently you stated something and how he secretly fancies you.

He said you were the sexist woman he'd ever met [online] and if he ever saw you in real life he'd never be able to contain his animal instincts. Roar.
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Originally Posted by robin1234
Really, he had no insights of value. He seems angry. I called him out on his meaningless formulation of "politically incorrect" speech. (Illegal in the UK, according to him.) He melted away like a snowflake on the kitchen range.
I love the way you write.
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Originally Posted by anotherlimey
He said how eloquently you stated something and how he secretly fancies you.

He said you were the sexist woman he'd ever met [online] and if he ever saw you in real life he'd never be able to contain his animal instincts. Roar.
Well, duh. Everybody already knows all that.
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Default Re: It's all kicking off in Charlottesville, VA.

Originally Posted by anotherlimey
He said how eloquently you stated something and how he secretly fancies you.

He said you were the sexist woman he'd ever met [online] and if he ever saw you in real life he'd never be able to contain his animal instincts. Roar.
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he had no insights of value..
I now realise I committed an unforgivable faux pas
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Old Aug 16th 2017, 1:13 am
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Thanks for sharing the history of the statues, Leslie.

Probably like many of the silent readers of this thread, I had no clue.

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I'd be curious to know who started the riot in the first place. The trouble with this country is that there's no longer any tolerance for opposing views, not that I agree in the slightest with what the Alt-Right preach. I think all this started with the Vietnam war
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Default Re: It's all kicking off in Charlottesville, VA.

Originally Posted by dc koop
I'd be curious to know who started the riot in the first place. The trouble with this country is that there's no longer any tolerance for opposing views, not that I agree in the slightest with what the Alt-Right preach. I think all this started with the Vietnam war
With all due respect, naziism is more than just "an opposing view" and it should not be tolerated by any decent people. To be clear, I'm not saying that they shouldn't be allowed to speak or march (although Germany does have strict laws around espousing naziism, and nazis them selves would certainly allow no opposition to be expressed if they were ever in power), but the heatedness of the opposition to them really isn't the problem. They, and the culture that fostered them, are the problem.

Interesting footnote:

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Baltimore just removed four statues during this night.
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Default Re: It's all kicking off in Charlottesville, VA.

Originally Posted by dc koop
The trouble with this country is that there's no longer any tolerance for opposing views,
I don't think that's really true. Probably when tolerance and neighbourliness happen, they're less likely to make the national news than when a riot or shouting match happen.

I live in a rural area in New York that is historically republican, but is now pretty evenly divided. We had a town hall event recently, voices were not raised at any point and opposing viewpoints were listened to by all, and indeed politely applauded by all. Working Families Party has for many years had quite a following up here - and for some elections, candidates run under republican and WFP lines. (Although democratic/WFP is more common.) There have been very contentious issues, such as a scumbag district attorney who allowed her political machinations to intrude in and derail a murder case, but none of these things lead to riots or even raised voices. Things get discussed rationally and worked out.

My wife and I went to the Board of Elections yesterday to change our party affiliation, we were greeted warmly by both the Republican commissioner and the Democratic commissioner. They seem to run a pretty neighbourly and tolerant office.
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