CNN - the Clinton News Network
Sep 15th 2016, 12:25 am
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In the meantime, remind us which newspaper broke the story of Clinton's private email server.
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Sep 15th 2016, 12:34 am
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Katie Couric?
Sep 15th 2016, 1:30 am
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Of course Wikipedia has its own prejudices, and is not always to be relied on; nevertheless, it may well be accurate on this occasion.
It's as well to remind ourselves that the MSM covers many more stories than just political ones, which makes the steadiness of registered Democrats' trust in MSM organs even sadder. It would be interesting to see a poll of non-American-immigrants' judgments on the American MSM. There must be quite a few of us (not just on this site) who read its offerings.
Sep 15th 2016, 1:37 am
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What a very Giantaxeesque invitation! Glad to help. Here is Wikipedia's opinion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary...tial_awareness
Of course Wikipedia has its own prejudices, and is not always to be relied on; nevertheless, it may well be accurate on this occasion.
Of course Wikipedia has its own prejudices, and is not always to be relied on; nevertheless, it may well be accurate on this occasion.
Sep 15th 2016, 2:10 am
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No it didn't. Here's what Wiki says: A March 2, 2015, New York Times article broke the story that the Benghazi panel had discovered... You implied that the paper had made the discovery itself, and that wasn't the case. Wiki's chief prejudice is that it doesn't recognise private bloggers, only mainstream media organs: the NYT may well have been the first MSM organ to publish the Benghazi panel's discovery, but there was plenty of noise in the blogosphere before the Times felt brave enough to crash the party.
Sep 15th 2016, 4:25 am
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"In the meantime, remind us which newspaper broke the story of Clinton's private email server."
In other words, I said exactly what the wikipedia entry says about the NY Times. Nowhere did I say that the paper had made the discovery itself. My point is if the mainstream media is so biased towards Clinton, how is it that one of the papers that the right loves to castigate in that regard - the NY Times - was the first to break this story?
Wiki's chief prejudice is that it doesn't recognise private bloggers, only mainstream media organs: the NYT may well have been the first MSM organ to publish the Benghazi panel's discovery, but there was plenty of noise in the blogosphere before the Times felt brave enough to crash the party.
Links?
Wikipedia's chief prejudice? Lol at that claim given it's formed from contributions in general, so the claim that it doesn't "recognize" private bloggers is just bogus.
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Sep 15th 2016, 8:40 pm
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New Era: Hillary Loses Control of ‘Net Narrative | The Daily Bell
The headline of this piece is a bit misleading. In fact, the entire MSM has lost control of the news-narrative - largely, that is: not entirely, quite yet. Indeed, like Wikipedia, many BE members still blithely dismiss the Alternative Media (what used to be called "the blogosphere") as unreliable and irrelevant. As time goes on those members will fall further and further behind in the contest to quote credible sources. In a couple of years from now - unless a World Government has managed to achieve censorship of all news and opinion - they will feel embarrassed at their earlier gullibility. Those with the capacity to feel embarrassment, anyway.
The next couple of years will bring a revolution in the acceptability of individual opinions - and those opinions will be free from the oppression of advertisers and sponsors. The Clinton News Network and its like will have largely disappeared as news-sources, and survived as mere entertainment-sources. Wikipedia will have promoted bloggers to the status of "reputable sources" - some of them far above today's "reputable sources". The future will belong to the Matt Drudges, not the Rupert Murdochs. (With that caveat about the World Government, of course.)
Interesting times...!
The headline of this piece is a bit misleading. In fact, the entire MSM has lost control of the news-narrative - largely, that is: not entirely, quite yet. Indeed, like Wikipedia, many BE members still blithely dismiss the Alternative Media (what used to be called "the blogosphere") as unreliable and irrelevant. As time goes on those members will fall further and further behind in the contest to quote credible sources. In a couple of years from now - unless a World Government has managed to achieve censorship of all news and opinion - they will feel embarrassed at their earlier gullibility. Those with the capacity to feel embarrassment, anyway.
The next couple of years will bring a revolution in the acceptability of individual opinions - and those opinions will be free from the oppression of advertisers and sponsors. The Clinton News Network and its like will have largely disappeared as news-sources, and survived as mere entertainment-sources. Wikipedia will have promoted bloggers to the status of "reputable sources" - some of them far above today's "reputable sources". The future will belong to the Matt Drudges, not the Rupert Murdochs. (With that caveat about the World Government, of course.)
Interesting times...!
Sep 15th 2016, 11:06 pm
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cbs caught editing out bill clinton's revelation hillary has fainted "frequently":
CBS News on Bill Clinton edit controversy: Change made ‘purely for time’ | TheHill
probably the most clear cut case of an agenda you'll see for those who refuse to accept even the notion of a mainstream media bias for clinton. depressing to think how many people are falling for this crap
CBS News on Bill Clinton edit controversy: Change made ‘purely for time’ | TheHill
probably the most clear cut case of an agenda you'll see for those who refuse to accept even the notion of a mainstream media bias for clinton. depressing to think how many people are falling for this crap
Sep 15th 2016, 11:55 pm
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cbs caught editing out bill clinton's revelation hillary has fainted "frequently":
CBS News on Bill Clinton edit controversy: Change made ‘purely for time’ | TheHill
probably the most clear cut case of an agenda you'll see for those who refuse to accept even the notion of a mainstream media bias for clinton. depressing to think how many people are falling for this crap
CBS News on Bill Clinton edit controversy: Change made ‘purely for time’ | TheHill
probably the most clear cut case of an agenda you'll see for those who refuse to accept even the notion of a mainstream media bias for clinton. depressing to think how many people are falling for this crap
Odd that CBS's "bias" didn't extend to those three platforms that showed the interview in its entirety.
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Sep 16th 2016, 12:19 am
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"One clip that ran on CBS Evening News was edited purely for time while on deadline for the live broadcast."
CBS News said the edit was made because of time constraints. It takes 1.9 seconds for Bill Clinton to say "frequently -- not frequently.”
The discrepancy also extends to the transcripts.
The Hill checked the one provided to this publication on Monday of the Clinton interview, and the word "frequently" was missing.
However, the "CBS This Morning" transcript does include the "frequently" portion of Bill Clinton’s comment.
CBS evening news is their most watched news but that must be coincidence as well...
CBS News said the edit was made because of time constraints. It takes 1.9 seconds for Bill Clinton to say "frequently -- not frequently.”
The discrepancy also extends to the transcripts.
The Hill checked the one provided to this publication on Monday of the Clinton interview, and the word "frequently" was missing.
However, the "CBS This Morning" transcript does include the "frequently" portion of Bill Clinton’s comment.
CBS evening news is their most watched news but that must be coincidence as well...
Sep 16th 2016, 12:29 am
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"One clip that ran on CBS Evening News was edited purely for time while on deadline for the live broadcast."
CBS News said the edit was made because of time constraints. It takes 1.9 seconds for Bill Clinton to say "frequently -- not frequently.”
The discrepancy also extends to the transcripts.
The Hill checked the one provided to this publication on Monday of the Clinton interview, and the word "frequently" was missing.
However, the "CBS This Morning" transcript does include the "frequently" portion of Bill Clinton’s comment.
CBS News said the edit was made because of time constraints. It takes 1.9 seconds for Bill Clinton to say "frequently -- not frequently.”
The discrepancy also extends to the transcripts.
The Hill checked the one provided to this publication on Monday of the Clinton interview, and the word "frequently" was missing.
However, the "CBS This Morning" transcript does include the "frequently" portion of Bill Clinton’s comment.
What was the total length of the interview and what was the length of the clip shown on CBS evening news?
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Sep 16th 2016, 2:13 am
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CBS News on Bill Clinton edit controversy: Change made ‘purely for time’ | TheHill
This report claims that the words omitted from Bill's answer took up 1.9 seconds, and that CBS could more easily have left out a couple of pauses. Giant: you are so desperate in your defence, you must surely be on the Clinton payroll. That's the only thing that makes sense. If that is so, then good luck to you. In these straitened times, any job is better than none; but sheesh! You're messing with our minds, man!
This report claims that the words omitted from Bill's answer took up 1.9 seconds, and that CBS could more easily have left out a couple of pauses. Giant: you are so desperate in your defence, you must surely be on the Clinton payroll. That's the only thing that makes sense. If that is so, then good luck to you. In these straitened times, any job is better than none; but sheesh! You're messing with our minds, man!
Sep 16th 2016, 2:34 am
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CBS News on Bill Clinton edit controversy: Change made ‘purely for time’ | TheHill
This report claims that the words omitted from Bill's answer took up 1.9 seconds, and that CBS could more easily have left out a couple of pauses. Giant: you are so desperate in your defence, you must surely be on the Clinton payroll. That's the only thing that makes sense. If that is so, then good luck to you. In these straitened times, any job is better than none; but sheesh! You're messing with our minds, man!
This report claims that the words omitted from Bill's answer took up 1.9 seconds, and that CBS could more easily have left out a couple of pauses. Giant: you are so desperate in your defence, you must surely be on the Clinton payroll. That's the only thing that makes sense. If that is so, then good luck to you. In these straitened times, any job is better than none; but sheesh! You're messing with our minds, man!
Sep 16th 2016, 3:10 am
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CBS News on Bill Clinton edit controversy: Change made ‘purely for time’ | TheHill
This report claims that the words omitted from Bill's answer took up 1.9 seconds, and that CBS could more easily have left out a couple of pauses. Giant: you are so desperate in your defence, you must surely be on the Clinton payroll. That's the only thing that makes sense. If that is so, then good luck to you. In these straitened times, any job is better than none; but sheesh! You're messing with our minds, man!
This report claims that the words omitted from Bill's answer took up 1.9 seconds, and that CBS could more easily have left out a couple of pauses. Giant: you are so desperate in your defence, you must surely be on the Clinton payroll. That's the only thing that makes sense. If that is so, then good luck to you. In these straitened times, any job is better than none; but sheesh! You're messing with our minds, man!
Still waiting for your links to back back up your assertion that "there was plenty of noise in the blogosphere before the Times felt brave enough to crash the party."
Sep 16th 2016, 7:37 pm
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Why do people get so hung up on the tiniest things? It's not like Bill actually said that she has fainted frequently and got CBS to cut it out, he just started a sentence with the word "frequently" and then restarted it with "not frequently". It's as if the right wing media have no more issues of any worth to criticise Hillary about any more, and even fewer reasons to promote Trump.
