Charlie Hebdo shooting in France
#92
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Re: Charlie Hebdo shooting in France
In the 1500s, the Catholics would have, no question. The Islamist extremists now are no different than them. Interestingly, during that time, the Islamic world was one of enlightenment and scientific advancement.
It's the same stuff, just behind the banner of a different book. My point remains, in this day and age that any group of people would kill anyone under the banner of any mythology is just sad beyond words.
It's the same stuff, just behind the banner of a different book. My point remains, in this day and age that any group of people would kill anyone under the banner of any mythology is just sad beyond words.
I am not expected to apologise for deaths caused by Christian extremists or white supremacists.
#93
Re: Charlie Hebdo shooting in France
Buddhists murdering Muslims in Burma.
Christians murdering (and eating) Muslims in CAR.
All contemporary.
Christians murdering (and eating) Muslims in CAR.
All contemporary.
#94
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Re: Charlie Hebdo shooting in France
I already did, sort of.
Well of course you're not.
I personally don't think muslims have to apologise for anything. If the moderates alienate and marginalise the extremists, eventually the movement will lose traction. It'll take time, of course.
I personally don't think muslims have to apologise for anything. If the moderates alienate and marginalise the extremists, eventually the movement will lose traction. It'll take time, of course.
#95
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Re: Charlie Hebdo shooting in France
On a day-to-day basis, Islam doesn't affect my life at all; presumably you mean hand-waving in news items?
I just feel very sad all round, of course for the deaths in Paris and also for the race hatred that will ensue.
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A small reminder that we lovely peaceful people have caused suffering too.
Iraq study estimates war-related deaths at 461,000 - BBC News
Iraq study estimates war-related deaths at 461,000 - BBC News
#98
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It is ironic that after the collapse of the Communist Bloc, which never proved capable of delivering the threat which America and Western Europe feared, the greatest threat to peace and stability of much of the western world, though at a "small attack - terrorist level", not the nuclear holocaust level feared during the cold war, is from the islamic fundamentalist groups that were funded and encouraged by the CIA to "stop the spread of communism".
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#100
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Re: Charlie Hebdo shooting in France
Publishing Muhammad cartoons would have been too risky, says Amol Rajan | Media | The Guardian
This says an awful lot.
I have never understood why the likes of the Independent have been apologists, you would have thought it would have been completely opposite their views.
This says an awful lot.
I have never understood why the likes of the Independent have been apologists, you would have thought it would have been completely opposite their views.
#101
Re: Charlie Hebdo shooting in France
Just because you can jab a stick in a hornets' nest doesn't mean that it is sensible to do so.
#102
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When will conservatives apologize for Anders Breivik? He killed 77 people and was a committed Islamophobe.
Collective guilt sure is good fun.
Collective guilt sure is good fun.
#104
Re: Charlie Hebdo shooting in France
As I've pointed out...my concern is what their religion actually teaches regarding gender equality and behaviour towards non-adherents, and in what manner conflicts can arise within the society that they currently exist.
A religion of peace?
A religion of equality for all?
A religion of respect for all humanity?
Would anyone claim these as core teachings?
A religion of peace?
A religion of equality for all?
A religion of respect for all humanity?
Would anyone claim these as core teachings?
#105
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Re: Charlie Hebdo shooting in France
As I've pointed out...my concern is what their religion actually teaches regarding gender equality and behaviour towards non-adherents, and in what manner conflicts can arise within the society that they currently exist.
A religion of peace?
A religion of equality for all?
A religion of respect for all humanity?
Would anyone claim these as core teachings?
A religion of peace?
A religion of equality for all?
A religion of respect for all humanity?
Would anyone claim these as core teachings?
A religion of peace? I have yet to see one
A religion of equality for all? I have yet to see one
A religion of respect for all humanity? I have yet to see one