PetrifiedExPat

Was this an edit? Sorry, no links, I could post one to support my claim, or one to refute it, it's not worth my time or effort to do either.

kimilseung

If you cant back it up, best to not say it in the first place.

petitefrancaise

I feel so unbelievably sorry for the parents.

My baby was seriously ill after her birth and at one point the drs told me that they had done everything they could, that now it was up to her and she would either live or die in the next 24 hours. She lived. All I can say is that I was numb. That was an awful experience and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. BUT it was beyond my control, everyone had done all they could and no-one was offering a different scenario. I can totally understand why these parents want to do everything they possibly can to avoid being responsible for ending their baby's life. That is an abyss I would run away from too.

Jerseygirl

I'm not talking about what is humane...hell I wouldn't put my dog through this. What I am saying is...unless you have walked a mile in their shoes you/we/anyone has no idea as to what lengths we would take.

PetrifiedExPat

Thanks for missing the point, touched a nerve?

There is not a link that I am aware of that can not be refuted by the other side of the matter (by another said link). There really is no point.

I am deeply suspicious of most sources, even to the extent where I know my own opinion could be based on false information. I believe thats the world we live in.

PetrifiedExPat

With this current condition, I will disagree, but, concerning the overall sentiment I do see your point of view.

kimilseung

You are telling me that there are links that you can find that give contradictory claims on what the parents religious beliefs are. How about you just provide one of these opinions.

Twinkle0927

It was just a simple question as to what religion the parents subscribe to, and I was also hoping for a simple answer such as "Pentecostal" or "bhuddist" or whatever. It wasn't about debating religion or ethics. It's just that you mentioned the parents' religious beliefs and so far I cannot recall any news article that mentioned anything about the parents having any specific beliefs.

Are they catholic (hence the involvement of the Vatican)?

BEVS

I cannot find anything to suggest the parents have any particular religious belief or have cited this as a reason .

From the Telegraph 18th July 2017
He has flip flopped somewhat so lets hope he doesn't flip flop now either way.

There is no way to know if this one year old is suffering pain or immense discomfort. Brain damage doesn't inure against pain receptors delivering pain messages. Just because the child doesn't move because he cannot. Doesn't cry because he cannot doesn't mean that he is resting peacefully. He is

I don't think anyone here is damning the parents for their stance .

What has been damned as contemptible is the interference of Trump and his ilk for using this dreadful suffering for political point scoring.

Jerseygirl

I agree..Trump etc is looking to gain Brownie points...what about The Pope? Shame on all of them.

But from a parent's point of view...the more publicity the better...

kimilseung

Some anti-abortion fundy from America also got involved (also included raising money, in the interests of fairness), it seems that religious people of many kinds have band wagon jumped. But I have seen nothing about the parents themselves.

kimilseung

On reflection, you have not actually made a claim yet, regarding their religion, just a vague generalization, that they have one..

BEVS

Trump and cronies are using it to diss the NHS ( social health care) level of care because of their wishing to trash the US ACA.

The Pope and catholic church on the grounds that all (human) life including that of embryos is sacred .

Difference I suppose is that one is sincere in his beliefs. The other utterly cynically disingenuous.

That the pope extended this offer does make one wonder if this has travelled up from local catholic church priest to the Vatican. In other words , are the parents catholic perhaps. Not that their faith has much bearing on their wish to keep their child alive at all or any cost. That comes from their hearts.

edit to add --

Ah! Apparently the mother wrote to the Pope directly asking for his help.
She also believes the experimental therapy could possibly cure her son to 'lead a normal life'

Pollyana

Until the Pope entered the arena the issue of religion had not been raised at all. Many parents who reach out to the media, and the wider world of social media, invoke their religious beliefs, but in this case the family have not brought that into it at all. The facebook campaign page has many people calling on various gods to intervene, but they are posts from outsiders, not from the family. Any religious beliefs they have are a private matter and they haven't aired them in public.

BEVS

Yes, I can't find anything to suggest this of the parents.

Writing to the Pope was simply another avenue to bring hope & help IMO.

I once wrote to a medical expert at Stamford University about my Mum on the strength of an article I read in passing in some magazine like New Scientist. When he came to the UK, which at that time I did not know was on the cards, he took her on and she did trial some treatments.

I dunno. A part of me thinks that the wee lad has now been on life support for 10 months or so. Three months for this trial therapy is simply 12 more weeks on life support, which may happen anyway given the current legal fight and media circus, so give that to him somehow at GOSH in the UK provided it is absolutely known that he is not currently suffering & will not suffer from this.

His Mother has also stated that he went downhill fast after the hospital refused her to breastfeed him. That her milk would have slowed his condition.

It is all a right mess. Let's hope that the next few days does bring action for this little lad one way or another.