1st Visit to US Dentist
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I love my US dentist. Even if I moved back to the UK I would probably fly back to see him. The only 'selling' they do is to make sure I use up all my insurance benefits.
In the UK I had to have fillings wiith no anaesthetic because the NHS dentist couldn't find my nerve to inject. My dentist here recognized straight away that it was in an odd position and now knows exactly what to do to numb me up. Even my dental phobic husband (hadn't been to the dentist since he was 16) is OK with checkups there. Apparently tartar buildup can affect your immune system, and he has definitely been ill less since he started getting regular cleanings.
In the UK I had to have fillings wiith no anaesthetic because the NHS dentist couldn't find my nerve to inject. My dentist here recognized straight away that it was in an odd position and now knows exactly what to do to numb me up. Even my dental phobic husband (hadn't been to the dentist since he was 16) is OK with checkups there. Apparently tartar buildup can affect your immune system, and he has definitely been ill less since he started getting regular cleanings.
#17
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My new dentist is an ex-pat Hong Kong resident ! Took a full (17 ? ) set of X-rays and is currently reworking 6 old fillings. Couldn't be happier with the work, or the virtually painless rootcanal I had done here in April.
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I had not been to a dentist for 10 years or so before I came to US.
First appt was xrays/cleaning and 5 mins of the actual dentist poking around. (there's your 90 minutes). I got put on a periodetantal program of cleaning every 3 months, but after a few years I believe they were just going through the motions, and changed to 6 monthly.
Only actual work was 2 crowns, which was "optional". Never any sales pressure, and never any pain, in my 10 years US experience. And no judgement of UK standards. 3 fillings I had 40 years ago are still intact!
First appt was xrays/cleaning and 5 mins of the actual dentist poking around. (there's your 90 minutes). I got put on a periodetantal program of cleaning every 3 months, but after a few years I believe they were just going through the motions, and changed to 6 monthly.
Only actual work was 2 crowns, which was "optional". Never any sales pressure, and never any pain, in my 10 years US experience. And no judgement of UK standards. 3 fillings I had 40 years ago are still intact!
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My sympathies, Lansbury.
When I reflect on the worst physical pain I've experienced, almost exclusively it relates back to the dentist. I know I'm going to have to go, but I really have no desire to book an appointment for some time.
When I reflect on the worst physical pain I've experienced, almost exclusively it relates back to the dentist. I know I'm going to have to go, but I really have no desire to book an appointment for some time.
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This is mildly annoying. We have excellent dental insurance which means fillings are completely free, and I was looking forward to switching my metal ones for white ones, at a 1-2 a year basis. But no - even when I gently prod him with 'well, should we replace some of these old ones, just to be sure...' he refuses to churn my insurance. Spoilsport.
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I don't think our US dentist had ever seen teeth NHS teeth. He was really surprised that I still had my wisdom teeth and was very curious as to how NHS dentistry works.
I hated my NHS dentists; I had one good dentist until I was 21, which then followed a couple of years if not being able to find a dentist and a few years of terrible money grabbing NHS dentists.
My US dentist gave my teeth a good clean and descale and took lots of x-rays. Turned out I needed a small filling (wasn't surprised), which I had down a week later without anaesthetic as it was so small.
I don't feel like he pressured either of us for unnecessary treatment. We will see what happens in October for our check up.
I hated my NHS dentists; I had one good dentist until I was 21, which then followed a couple of years if not being able to find a dentist and a few years of terrible money grabbing NHS dentists.
My US dentist gave my teeth a good clean and descale and took lots of x-rays. Turned out I needed a small filling (wasn't surprised), which I had down a week later without anaesthetic as it was so small.
I don't feel like he pressured either of us for unnecessary treatment. We will see what happens in October for our check up.
#23
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Any dentist worth their salt, either side of the Atlantic, will be highly suspicious of work done by another dentist. Anything that looks slightly dodgy will be put down for replacement/re-doing. A new dentist has no idea how quickly your teeth deteriorate, what your diet is really like. Your oral hygiene/gum disease we can see the minute we get a mirror and probe in there....
Expect them to want to replace everything you've had done, especially if it's more than 5-10 yrs old. Techniques and especially materials have improved enormously in the last 5-10 years.
A better question to ask them is what needs to be done now (obvious signs of disease/decay easy to spot visually or on xray), what needs to be done in the next year and then what can they keep an eye on. Don't blame them if they don't trust you to return though if you haven't been in years......
Root canals I would fork out for a specialist. if it's done well, it will last.
Expect them to want to replace everything you've had done, especially if it's more than 5-10 yrs old. Techniques and especially materials have improved enormously in the last 5-10 years.
A better question to ask them is what needs to be done now (obvious signs of disease/decay easy to spot visually or on xray), what needs to be done in the next year and then what can they keep an eye on. Don't blame them if they don't trust you to return though if you haven't been in years......
Root canals I would fork out for a specialist. if it's done well, it will last.
It seems my regular dentist will only do small, brand-new fillings...not redo old problems previously fixed in England or even major deep new fillings....
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Weblue, my dentist does all fillings, has no problems redoing old fillings but for root canals she always refers to endondonists. Part of it might be do with your dental insurance as a endondonists can use your medical insurance as well for parts of the procedure. If a root canal is recommended I would do it as developing an abscess is horrendous. I was unfortunate enough to develop an abscess on 3 roots of one tooth, the dentist had never seen that before. The pain was worse than childbirth. Unfortunately that tooth could not be saved but I have had no problems with the other 2 I have had, one of which was done in the UK and cracked, so had to be replaced. With the 2nd one, I had a slight issue but it was to with my bite and once the cap was shaved down, it was fine.
As to phobias, iI suspect it depends on whether you had a good experience as child or not. I had a terrible visit when I had an abscess develop on a baby tooth at the age of 7. My own dentist wasn't prepared to take it out due to the abscess so I was referred to specialist in a London hospital. Unfortunately he decided to use injections to numb the site and injections then were not the small very fine things they use today. One of the injections hit the roof of my mouth because I was really nervous so I prompty refused to reopen my mouth for another injection. So the dentist slapped me. It was in the 60's so my mother was waiting outside and knew nothing about this until we had left. She was furious and obviously reported the dentist but the damage was done. By the age of 16 I was so terrified of dentists I actually ran screaming out of the room when one dentist came near me with an injection. It was the same dentist who suggested that I use a new drug which put you into a twilight world while the filling was done. She said it would help overcome the anxiety and in time I would be able to sit calmly in a dental chair. It took some time but she was right. I still don't like the sound of a drill and I have sensitive teeth so I still need a fair about of anesthetics if I need a filling but fortunately they seem to few and far between these days.
As to phobias, iI suspect it depends on whether you had a good experience as child or not. I had a terrible visit when I had an abscess develop on a baby tooth at the age of 7. My own dentist wasn't prepared to take it out due to the abscess so I was referred to specialist in a London hospital. Unfortunately he decided to use injections to numb the site and injections then were not the small very fine things they use today. One of the injections hit the roof of my mouth because I was really nervous so I prompty refused to reopen my mouth for another injection. So the dentist slapped me. It was in the 60's so my mother was waiting outside and knew nothing about this until we had left. She was furious and obviously reported the dentist but the damage was done. By the age of 16 I was so terrified of dentists I actually ran screaming out of the room when one dentist came near me with an injection. It was the same dentist who suggested that I use a new drug which put you into a twilight world while the filling was done. She said it would help overcome the anxiety and in time I would be able to sit calmly in a dental chair. It took some time but she was right. I still don't like the sound of a drill and I have sensitive teeth so I still need a fair about of anesthetics if I need a filling but fortunately they seem to few and far between these days.
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PetiteF, you seem knowledgeable about this subject-- is a specialist required replace or rework almost any of one's old fillings? Both dentists I've seen here in the US have sent me to specialists-- endodontists--for a look at changing out an old filling and redoing a root canal. I refused both procedures, BTW, as neither tooth has given me any trouble and I was suspicious of their motives...but who knows if that was correct....
It seems my regular dentist will only do small, brand-new fillings...not redo old problems previously fixed in England or even major deep new fillings....
It seems my regular dentist will only do small, brand-new fillings...not redo old problems previously fixed in England or even major deep new fillings....
I worked with a Harley St endodontist for 3 years....so I know a thing or two about root fillings.
It's usually pretty obvious if a root canal needs to be re-done. It's either not the right length, hasn't had all the canals done, has an old type of filling material known to degrade or there is pathology. These can all be seen on xray. When working, we would always show the patient the problems on the xray and there is no reason for your dentist not to show you. It's not rocket science. If the root fillings are a bit short but you have no pathology then you could probably leave it alone. If your dentist can see evidence of disease then you should get it done asap. If the filling on top is getting worn out and possibly leaking around the edges, the dentist may decide that it's worth getting the root canal done before placing a new restoration on top. You'd be a bit pee'd off if you paid $500++ for a new filling only to have it rendered useless within a year because the rooth canal gave up.
My dentist here in the Austin has replaced a couple of older fillings that were starting to look a bit worn out but they were 25ish years old so no big deal.
There's no reason for a visit to the dentist to be painful. If it is, find yourself a better dentist. Hygienists on the other hand are an evil bunch who love to inflict pain ..........
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Honestly I think it will depend which dentist to go to. I got recommendations and said to him that I wanted to make sure my mouth was healthy, after that we could talk about anything else. I needed a couple of very minor fillings. he was happy with my existing UK filling. Generally it was better than my UK experience (sorry dad) purely because everything is newer and fancier. If they recommend a lot of work and you aren't happy, leave and go somewhere else. Even a basic understanding of X-rays helps understand if the treatment is necessary or not.
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Yes I know I should go once every 6 months but I don't. Even having to phone and get an appointment made me Thanks to an NHS dentist some, ok many, years ago who drilled through my tooth into the nerve when he didn't think it necessary to use a local anesthetic for fillings. Ever since then the very thought of the dentist churns the pit of my stomach.
Anyway the whole point of this is to see what others experiences are of US dentists and UK NHS cared for teeth. What can I expect when they see my by US standards less then regimented non white teeth? I wish to prepare myself for attempts to sell me what by UK standards might be considered luxury cosmetic treatments.
Anyway the whole point of this is to see what others experiences are of US dentists and UK NHS cared for teeth. What can I expect when they see my by US standards less then regimented non white teeth? I wish to prepare myself for attempts to sell me what by UK standards might be considered luxury cosmetic treatments.
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I haven't been to the dentist for more years than I'm prepared to admit to on here. I think I'd have to be knocked out and carried in to be honest!
#29
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Given what we now know about dentists and hunting, I wish mine would track me and then just dart me as I cross a parking lot or something.