derekgoforth

no offence taken

Hello WA

Maybe you're not intentionally gloating, but it sure comes across that way. I came out here on the 457 in Jan and loving every minute of it, but if I were you I'd be awfully careful with this sense of security you're enjoying at the moment. Speaking as someone ACTUALLY working working in a WA school, the outlook is mega gloomy for Australian teachers I work with, so how much more "foreigners" whom the the Australian government do not see as priority in scheme of things right now. In Australia, unlike back in the UK, changes happen almost instantly, and just as you put about the proverbial rug being pulled, the very same thing could happen to you weeks before you're due to set out - laws and chaneges get passed mega swiftly here! An Austalian colleague that started work in the the same time as me at the start of the school term only found out in February that all he had was a job for ONE TERM, when he went to apply for a laptop from the school. They told him he coiuld not apply for the laptop cos he was only employed for one term! Yes he jaw nearly hit the ground. I know lots of other Australian teachers struggling to get reilef work! I'm a science teacher and in our department, ther is not 1 teacher that has a full time table. The most any of us has, is 0.8. We are 1.5 people over staffed in our dept, and maths are 2 people over (yes, maths).
I spoke to Sue a couple of weeks ago to ask her how come the Jun 09 cohort were being given PR status and howcome some weren't bein employed anymore. She said that new immigration laws have demanded for the 457 route to be stopped for teachers due to economic downturn and that the projected shortages had not matrialised. Also, that there is currently only 4 PART-TIME teaching posts available in all of WA and as these posts are in the metro region they don't know whta they'll do with the UK teachers when they come over! The Oz governmment are doin everything to protect Australian employees, so Mr Goforth don't start any celebrations until you actually get here.
To the rest of you, if possible (I know it's really hard), definately source for other routes to come over, while waiting for DET - hopefully things will pick again economically. My husband is finding it very difficult to find work because nearly all jobs, no matter how basic, are insisting on PR or Oz citizenship - he's become veeeery good at housework lately, lol!
All the very best to you all and feel free to ask me any questions you may have, and I'll try to help if I can.

derekgoforth

could you please point out the gloating? i have expressed many times my encouragment, my best wishes and good luck for those who had the scheme cancelled/ defferred on them. i am also in contact with many teachers who are in FB who have asked my advice many many times.

i am not gloating , some of my friends have missed out ,(potentially) on coming in Jan 10. i find it quite irritating that defending oneself on this forum is automatically taken the wrong way.

but the written word is not very good at expressin emotion, never has been. I suggest that if people dont want to hear about the teachers going out in june, dont comment on my comments, seems pretty simple to me

derekgoforth

do you really mean there are only four part time vacancies in WA at the moment? in the whole of WA? are you being serious?

Hello WA

I'm serious - straight from the DET

derekgoforth

only four part time and no full time? really?

Australia_bound?

Sorry derek asking for clarification on anything said on any forum isn't wrong. Wouldn't want to take offense at something that was not intended as that would be wrong wouldn't it?
A bit less vague would help and comment about people being suitable for the job? Still find that one an odd comment to have made?
Thanks for your imput on this thread, no hard feelings

derekgoforth

like i said before paul, anyone is welcome to PM me if they want info, as a couple fo people have been.

upthevilla

For the record I would just like to say that I have never found Derek to be anything but helpful and would certainly not say he has been gloating since being accepted to go to WA in July. Many of us are frustrated with the current situation but it is not helpful for us to start turning on one another. It sounds as if we could all be in for a bit of a wait and I for one am trying to be patient, but I am happy for others who are going out to WA in the near future, it gives me hope that we might not be tooo far behind.

Will

Gems

Hi, remember the situation can be different regarding shortages in Primary and Secondary teaching. Needs can go up and down like a yo yo.

Some news on the net is saying Secondary no shortage but primary will have future shortages due to rising birth rates. However this is news items so cant guarantee this.

However if your a Primary teacher do not take circumstances that are happening for High Schools to be the same.

Gems

upthevilla

Thanks Gems,

Your comments are encouraging as ever! Still hopeful that DET WA is our best route - they are still saying that they are committed to employing us Primary Teachers, it's just a matter of when. Let's hope the economy picks up so it is sooner rather than later.

Will

derekgoforth

thanks Gems

Australia_bound?

Once Aus starts the mines up to full production again there will be lots of Teaching vacancies, as the big wages are very attractive. But personally still think the global recession will last this year out at least

Australia_bound?

If the South coast of UK becomes the next gold coast, would say most of aus will resemble mars (more so than it does now) wouldn't be much of a desination then

derekgoforth

I'll put a deposit down for my spacesuit now. have always wanted a deep tan!

didn't they test the mars rover in the kiberleys?