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Old Sep 3rd 2017, 2:52 pm   #61
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And why is it in almost every country there are consistent reports of the disproportionate amount of sex crimes are committed by migrants/refugees ?
Have you got any reliable evidence of that? I mean proper statistics, not reports in sensationalist rags or anti-immigrant websites.

The OP makes reference to some numbers from Italy and says they're what he heard on a couple of TV reports. They haven't actually been backed up by any of his links yet
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Have you got any reliable evidence of that? I mean proper statistics, not reports in sensationalist rags or anti-immigrant websites.

The OP makes reference to some numbers from Italy and says they're what he heard on a couple of TV reports. They haven't actually been backed up by any of his links yet
Unsubstantiated rumour fuelling an anti-migrant atmosphere, surely not......
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Or a simple mix-up between "reported by" and "committed by".
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Like Elvis, the OP seems to have left the building!

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Hit and run trolling.

1. Post xenophobic garbage that he couldn't get away with saying to real people in real life.

2. Hope it starts an argument on BE thereby legitimizing the whole absurd and nasty premise (attn please Morpeth)

3. Run away and watch from behind the screen, while trying to google more prurient details from other "sources".
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Old Sep 3rd 2017, 4:50 pm   #66
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Migrants would be you and me if we moved to Italy.
What point are you trying to make.
Are you suggesting that there are just too many non Italians in Italy or in fact non natives in almost every country.
I do not take any notice of sensationalist news be it in the UK, Italy in fact anywhere.
If there were no migrants then 100% of crimes would be carried out by natives.
Those who publish it or refer to it usually have an agenda of their own.
Truth and tolerance are not usually a motive.
Again, why not answer the question ?

Is there ever a time published reports you consider whether objective or not , or do you just dismiss because they don't fit your narrative of the positive effect of bringing in the refugees and migrants at these levels ?

I don't know current situation in Italy except what I read and what Italians tell me, and certainly as you have visited there recently I read your comments with interest. I know what situation was like in Italy years ago when I lived there, and subsequently when I Visited, it looks like crime situation has gone downhill since then.
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Have you got any reliable evidence of that? I mean proper statistics, not reports in sensationalist rags or anti-immigrant websites.

The OP makes reference to some numbers from Italy and says they're what he heard on a couple of TV reports. They haven't actually been backed up by any of his links yet
I was referring to the OP statistics, and asking questions.
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Hit and run trolling.

1. Post xenophobic garbage that he couldn't get away with saying to real people in real life.

2. Hope it starts an argument on BE thereby legitimizing the whole absurd and nasty premise (attn please Morpeth)

3. Run away and watch from behind the screen, while trying to google more prurient details from other "sources".

And what is the "nasty" premise ? Is it absurd to consider the effects on Italy of the refugees and migrants coming in, and their actions ( for better or worse) ?
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What about Oriana Fallaci - is it a real name, or just designed to sound like a salacious practice?
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What about Oriana Fallaci - is it a real name, or just designed to sound like a salacious practice?
Oriana Fallaci was an Italian journalist, author, and political interviewer. A partisan during World War II, she had a long and successful journalistic career.
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I was referring to the OP statistics, and asking questions.
As statistics seem to be the major element of proof I look forward to sight of those statistics that contradict those of the OP.
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Spreading the belief that they're coming here for our white women serves a political purpose.
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Again, why not answer the question ?

Is there ever a time published reports you consider whether objective or not , or do you just dismiss because they don't fit your narrative of the positive effect of bringing in the refugees and migrants at these levels ?

I don't know current situation in Italy except what I read and what Italians tell me, and certainly as you have visited there recently I read your comments with interest. I know what situation was like in Italy years ago when I lived there, and subsequently when I Visited, it looks like crime situation has gone downhill since then.
I am not going to give you a definitive answer because there is not one.
I live In a country that has changed for the better in my lifetime because of the positive aspects of immigration.
The past is the past ,it is a waste of your and everybody else's time to think otherwise.
Your views about Italy and migrants replicate those you have of Sweden ,the UK and the US .

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Have you got any reliable evidence of that? I mean proper statistics, not reports in sensationalist rags or anti-immigrant websites.

The OP makes reference to some numbers from Italy and says they're what he heard on a couple of TV reports. They haven't actually been backed up by any of his links yet
Morpeth will not have any reliable evidence because that's not how he operates. He will demand that others answer his loaded questions, based on a dishonest premise, and then cite "his friends" as sources.

I cannot speak for Italy but since he said "most countries" I will offer some reliable evidence, from credible sources, that immigrants in the US are no more likely to commit crimes (including the "sex crimes" that morpeth mentioned) than natural born citizens. The data shows that, in many cases, immigrants are actually less likely to commit crimes.

http://www.nber.org/papers/w13229.pdf

Fact check: Immigration doesn't bring crime into U.S., data say | PBS NewsHour
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I cannot speak for Italy but since he said "most countries" I will offer some reliable evidence, from credible sources, that immigrants in the US are no more likely to commit crimes (including the "sex crimes" that morpeth mentioned) than natural born citizens. The data shows that, in many cases, immigrants are actually less likely to commit crimes.

http://www.nber.org/papers/w13229.pdf

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You're kidding!!!

I mean - seriously now - that just can't be right, can it? I mean, we all know that's not right.

Statistics, eh? And liberal lefty thingy. Something to do with the government not wanting us to know the truth, too. And agendas - lots of agendas. Also ideology.
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