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Old Oct 8th 2016, 7:55 am   #1
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Every EU migrant can stay in UK after Brexit: all 3.6 million to have residency rules or get amnesty

The health department is also conducting a major study on arrangements with Spain to allow British expats to get free medical treatment abroad.
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I won´t hold my breath -in case I need free medical treatment immediately.
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Old Oct 8th 2016, 2:14 pm   #3
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From the above article -

'Once an EU citizen has been in the UK for more than five years, they are given permanent residency rights.'

And the same in Spain. But it may be wise to renew your residencia after you have been a resident for 5 years.
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Old Oct 8th 2016, 2:55 pm   #4
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I would just point out that you have to have been in the UK or Spain legally for 5 years. In Spain, so long as you signed onto the Foreigners Register that's fine, but many don't bother and that could be a problem.

In the UK they never bothered to implement the same system (which does apply in all EU states) so proving legal residency could be more of a problem. Having a social security number would help though, and most working EU people would have one.
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I was actually thinking about retirees.I´ve been here 30 odd years,had a business so I qualify.We´ve now got that piece of paper,no longer the plastic residencia containing our thumb print.Where though ,have you the info. that British ex-pats in Spain have permanent residency rights after 5 years? PLEASE don´t say it was in the Daily Mail.
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I was actually thinking about retirees.I´ve been here 30 odd years,had a business so I qualify.We´ve now got that piece of paper,no longer the plastic residencia containing our thumb print.Where though ,have you the info. that British ex-pats in Spain have permanent residency rights after 5 years? PLEASE don´t say it was in the Daily Mail.
The five year rule is actually on the Ministry of Interior website :

Residencia de carácter permanente - Ministerio del Interior

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The five year rule is actually on the Ministry of Interior website :


But what it doesn't say is what the rule is for non-EU people...and that is what we'll be once the deal is done and dusted.....but my Spanish ain't up to much so I could be wrong
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Yes I was trying to clarify this point - but Spanish solicitors at a forum I recently attended insisted that the rights you have accrued cannot be withdrawn even if you are no longer an EU citizen. Again I think it essential to have everything valid and up todate ie residencia, padron, paying tax and all other documents for workers and businesses.
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That's were if you have the right to an Irish passport can come in handy...............
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But what it doesn't say is what the rule is for non-EU people...and that is what we'll be once the deal is done and dusted.....but my Spanish ain't up to much so I could be wrong
Non-EU people I believe can get a residence permit but only for one year when they first arrive and only after that can they get a five year residence and the subsequent permanent status , also known as "Larga Duración "

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It's EU legislation

http://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/residence/documents-formalities/eu-nationals-permanent-residence/index_en.htm
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Yes, but that article only refers to the rights for EU citizens. After Brexit UK citizens will have the status of any other third country.

However, rights acquired under an existing treaty cannot be removed when that treaty is rescinded - it's part of the Vienna Convention.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...om-Brexit.html

It's quite possible that Spain could require some new formalities to confirm your residency rights as a non EU citizen, for example, issuing the old fashioned residence card - that would be a bonus!
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Depite what many brexit voters say (ie that it wasn't just about immigration) Ms May was clear the other weekend that she felt that controls on EU immigration were the biggest factor in the Brexit vote and that she intended to do something about it. I'd be surprised if she'd state this early on that all EU migrants could stay - what are the brexit voters going to make of that?

The green sheet states permanent residency (I can't remember the exact wording, I don't ahve it to hand) but as a 'comunitario' - which if course we won't be.

But I'm hoping that it might mean we'll get our ID cards back

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It makes no difference. If you were granted permanent residency in the UK or Spain while they were in the EU they can't take it away.

May had no option but to grant residency to all long term EU residents - it's the law. I'm surprised no one pointed that out months ago.
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Mrs.May & the Govn. are becoming a law unto themselves.Maybe soon if pensioners return to UK they might have to tick a few boxes to decide their suitability,especially considering the state of the NHS.Personally I have not yet had a hip replacement but I have had my tonsils out & my appendix removed.AND maybe will score extra brownie points because I passed the 11+ & went to Grammar school AND I do speak the language.
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