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Old Feb 23rd 2017, 11:05 am   #46
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Now then.

About that EU / India stalled trade talks business, now it's got its own thread :

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...eal-india-meps

Well, well. Fancy that, eh?

The UK was at least partly responsible for the holdup all along on grounds of objections to more skilled worker visas and to Indian tariffs on whisky. Who would have thought it?

Now the UK is not going to be part of the EU any more, of course, they can drop the visa and tariff objections altogether. And the EU should back off from closing their long-awaited stalled deal because India is the UK's.
It is far more complicated than the Guardian suggests, Shashi Tharoor is member of the opposition party keeps 'flipping about' between parties--bit of a Boris Johnson!!
Generic drugs were another problem which the UK would accept/not the EU.
The cars ---that EMR keeps going on about!
The student issue was partly about bogus colleges.
Visas--they had already come to a reciprocal agreement on speeding up visa process for business people.
Whisky important but the wine industry is expanding here--another EU problem with tariffs.

EU as I kept saying is obviously wanting to reopen negotiations ---3 delegations here, more interest than the EU has shown before in its entire history. It will be interesting.
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The cars ---that EMR keeps going on about!
Talking of which, where is he? I thought you two might be spending a little more time together now you've got your own room
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EU as I kept saying is obviously wanting to reopen negotiations ---3 delegations here, more interest than the EU has shown before in its entire history. It will be interesting.
I think that's perfectly expectable. The UK has little choice but to throw something together in record time. Not necessarily for economic reasons, but for political ones. 2020 elections coming...

In contrast, the EU doesn't have the urgency and has the luxury of being more strategic. Besides, the EU represents a much larger opportunity for India.
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The EU is also trying to negoatiate an agreement with Mercosur. They have been add it for more than 12 years now with long breaks in between and just re-opened negotiations recently. So what is happening with Indi is nothing special.

P.S. I am sure that thr EU sent, is sending and will be sending delegations to Mercosur at lot of times. Usually comprising more than one person
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The EU is also trying to negoatiate an agreement with Mercosur. They have been add it for more than 12 years now with long breaks in between and just re-opened negotiations recently. So what is happening with Indi is nothing special.

P.S. I am sure that thr EU sent, is sending and will be sending delegations to Mercosur at lot of times. Usually comprising more than one person
As I pointed out above, 3 delegations, more than 20 people, more interest than the EU has shown in the history of the EU. Not just trade being discussed.
We will see what happens!
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It is far more complicated than the Guardian suggests, Shashi Tharoor is member of the opposition party keeps 'flipping about' between parties--bit of a Boris Johnson!!
Generic drugs were another problem which the UK would accept/not the EU.
The cars ---that EMR keeps going on about!
The student issue was partly about bogus colleges.
Visas--they had already come to a reciprocal agreement on speeding up visa process for business people.
Whisky important but the wine industry is expanding here--another EU problem with tariffs.

EU as I kept saying is obviously wanting to reopen negotiations ---3 delegations here, more interest than the EU has shown before in its entire history. It will be interesting.
Now that the UK is leaving the EU, India is free to ignore the issues it has with the UK side of negotiations and concentrate on the EU issues.

It seems that the main issues that stalled previous negotiations were mostly between the UK and India, but an EU without the UK should be able to make a deal.
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Old Feb 24th 2017, 11:23 am   #52
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Now that the UK is leaving the EU, India is free to ignore the issues it has with the UK side of negotiations and concentrate on the EU issues.

It seems that the main issues that stalled previous negotiations were mostly between the UK and India, but an EU without the UK should be able to make a deal.
You have been reading the Guardian --see above. It is not "mostly between UK and India".
There have been many problems on both sides over the years.
As I said earlier the reaction after Brexit announcement from Indian business men in London was positive ++ that they there could now be a FTD with UK.

However as said above a deal with the EU would be more valuable.
Await with interest!!
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You have been reading the Guardian --see above. It is not "mostly between UK and India".
There have been many problems on both sides over the years.
As I said earlier the reaction after Brexit announcement from Indian business men in London was positive ++ that they there could now be a FTD with UK.

However as said above a deal with the EU would be more valuable.
Await with interest!!
Actually, no. I didn't read the Guardian. I used Google.
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Talking of which, where is he? I thought you two might be spending a little more time together now you've got your own room
Just seen your post---I had also wondered where he was! He would be going on about 'cars'.
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Just seen your post---I had also wondered where he was! He would be going on about 'cars'.
As this is a new thread instead of the original moved posts, I think you actively have to suscribe to this thread (or post here). And EMR may not have done so.
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As I pointed out above, 3 delegations, more than 20 people, more interest than the EU has shown in the history of the EU. Not just trade being discussed.
We will see what happens!

I am sure you are informed about the size of every delegation that the EU has ever sent out to make this claim-
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I am sure you are informed about the size of every delegation that the EU has ever sent out to make this claim-
I read several daily news papers, which reported on this, watch TV news and discussion programmes, How do you get your information?

(Have relatives with German business partners and some of that particular family are settled in Germany so get the usual pro-remain talk from them but are open minded enough to discuss pros and cons!!)
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Talking of which, where is he? I thought you two might be spending a little more time together now you've got your own room
I am in Laos, broadening my horizons,looking for trade opportunities post brexit
Must be some huge potential being outside of the EU.
Met some gujaratis complaining about the lack of decent Indian food in Laos???

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I am in Laos, broadening my horizons...
Beyond the Bosphorus, then?

Fantastic - have a great time I'm a little jealous now.
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