Scenes in Catalonia

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    Quote: On the one hand, I believe in the right to self-determination. On the other hand, as the Catalans are pro-EU, I do not understand the need for it. Or am I missing something?
    Not that much different to Scotland pre EU referendum really from that point of view. Obviously now if anyhthing having as a country voted to remain in EU while England voted leave, then now different.
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    Quote: The situation in Barcelona probably will not ignite in armed terms, but it has the potential for such. If it does ignite, please let the UK, EU, Ireland etc keep out of it. It's hardly our business. The Spaniards (including Catalans) have their own way of dealing with things. Let them sort out their own future, peacefully, I hope!
    If civil war starts NATO will get involved,
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    Quote: If civil war starts NATO will get involved,
    On both sides?
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    Quote: If civil war starts NATO will get involved,
    Somehow I doubt that. This an internal matter for Spain to resolve.
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    Quote: Somehow I doubt that. This an internal matter for Spain to resolve.
    Just like it was in 1936?
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    Quote: Somehow I doubt that. This an internal matter for Spain to resolve.
    Which Spain ? the Catalonia one or the Madrid one ?
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    Quote: Which Spain ? the Catalonia one or the Madrid one ?
    Both
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    Quote: Both
    Not going very well so far is it?
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    Sickening scenes as the Times put it so well Europe centrist stability is shrinking
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    Quote: Not going very well so far is it?
    You'd think Brexit would've been a good example of what not to do. No winners... Everybody loses.

    I suppose that will become more obvious after Britain drives itself off the cliff. I suspect Catalonia may not get that far.
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    Quote: You'd think Brexit would've been a good example of what not to do. No winners... Everybody loses.

    I suppose that will become more obvious after Britain drives itself off the cliff. I suspect Catalonia may not get that far.
    You really don't know what you are talking about do you?
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    Quote: You really don't know what you are talking about do you?
    No doubt the Jackboot brigade are relishing the thought of an EU militia - ready to quell any dissent. Juncker's pathetic groupies ready to bear arms
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    Quote: You'd think Brexit would've been a good example of what not to do. No winners... Everybody loses.

    I suppose that will become more obvious after Britain drives itself off the cliff. I suspect Catalonia may not get that far.
    But isn't this a different story than Britain? Not that I'm for it but funny enough Andorra seem to do alright and nobody is complaining.
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    It is a different story than Britain. In Britain, the referendum lost. Catalonia has already gone way, way, way past what Scotland did.
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    you are correct



    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...atalan-leaders