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bobd22 Oct 5th 2017 4:01 pm

Re: Scenes in Catalonia
 

Originally Posted by TravelBugs (Post 12354300)
On the one hand, I believe in the right to self-determination. On the other hand, as the Catalans are pro-EU, I do not understand the need for it. Or am I missing something?

Not that much different to Scotland pre EU referendum really from that point of view. Obviously now if anyhthing having as a country voted to remain in EU while England voted leave, then now different.

Rotor Oct 5th 2017 7:00 pm

Re: Scenes in Catalonia
 

Originally Posted by Leper (Post 12353970)
The situation in Barcelona probably will not ignite in armed terms, but it has the potential for such. If it does ignite, please let the UK, EU, Ireland etc keep out of it. It's hardly our business. The Spaniards (including Catalans) have their own way of dealing with things. Let them sort out their own future, peacefully, I hope!

If civil war starts NATO will get involved,

holly_1948 Oct 5th 2017 9:09 pm

Re: Scenes in Catalonia
 

Originally Posted by Rotor (Post 12354476)
If civil war starts NATO will get involved,

On both sides?

bobd22 Oct 6th 2017 6:54 am

Re: Scenes in Catalonia
 

Originally Posted by Rotor (Post 12354476)
If civil war starts NATO will get involved,

Somehow I doubt that. This an internal matter for Spain to resolve.

holly_1948 Oct 6th 2017 2:44 pm

Re: Scenes in Catalonia
 

Originally Posted by bobd22 (Post 12354721)
Somehow I doubt that. This an internal matter for Spain to resolve.

Just like it was in 1936?

Rotor Oct 6th 2017 7:25 pm

Re: Scenes in Catalonia
 

Originally Posted by bobd22 (Post 12354721)
Somehow I doubt that. This an internal matter for Spain to resolve.

Which Spain ? the Catalonia one or the Madrid one ?

bobd22 Oct 6th 2017 8:33 pm

Re: Scenes in Catalonia
 

Originally Posted by Rotor (Post 12355343)
Which Spain ? the Catalonia one or the Madrid one ?

Both

Rotor Oct 6th 2017 9:34 pm

Re: Scenes in Catalonia
 

Originally Posted by bobd22 (Post 12355396)
Both

Not going very well so far is it?:(

Blass Oct 30th 2017 9:10 pm

Re: Scenes in Catalonia
 
Sickening scenes as the Times put it so well Europe centrist stability is shrinking

amideislas Oct 31st 2017 5:57 am

Re: Scenes in Catalonia
 

Originally Posted by Rotor (Post 12355455)
Not going very well so far is it?:(

You'd think Brexit would've been a good example of what not to do. No winners... Everybody loses.

I suppose that will become more obvious after Britain drives itself off the cliff. I suspect Catalonia may not get that far.

Rotor Oct 31st 2017 6:07 am

Re: Scenes in Catalonia
 

Originally Posted by amideislas (Post 12371507)
You'd think Brexit would've been a good example of what not to do. No winners... Everybody loses.

I suppose that will become more obvious after Britain drives itself off the cliff. I suspect Catalonia may not get that far.

You really don't know what you are talking about do you?

lutonlad Oct 31st 2017 10:58 am

Re: Scenes in Catalonia
 

Originally Posted by Rotor (Post 12371513)
You really don't know what you are talking about do you?

No doubt the Jackboot brigade are relishing the thought of an EU militia - ready to quell any dissent. Juncker's pathetic groupies ready to bear arms :rofl:

Moses2013 Oct 31st 2017 11:02 am

Re: Scenes in Catalonia
 

Originally Posted by amideislas (Post 12371507)
You'd think Brexit would've been a good example of what not to do. No winners... Everybody loses.

I suppose that will become more obvious after Britain drives itself off the cliff. I suspect Catalonia may not get that far.

But isn't this a different story than Britain? Not that I'm for it but funny enough Andorra seem to do alright:lol: and nobody is complaining.

carcajou Oct 31st 2017 11:06 am

Re: Scenes in Catalonia
 
It is a different story than Britain. In Britain, the referendum lost. Catalonia has already gone way, way, way past what Scotland did.

Blass Oct 31st 2017 12:09 pm

Re: Scenes in Catalonia
 
you are correct



https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...atalan-leaders


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