Fredbargate

Once again you are exhibiting your total lack of knowledge of this situation.

If you had done some research as you claim to have you would understand that it is the Spanish Government that is causing the border delays whilst the Gibraltar and UK Governments along with the people of Gibraltar and residents of the Campo of Gibraltar are trying to ease them

EMR

The point being made is that if there were no border restrictions then with the advantages offered in Spain be it lower propert prrices, lower cost of living, a different culture etc etc then many if not most would prefer to live in Spain.

The market for developers in Gib would then be substantially reduced with much lower demand for properties.
For Gibs developers the problems with Spain are an advantage.

Moses2013

Thanks EMR
That's exactly what I mean, so the situations is ideal for the government and developers. If a family can have a house in Spain with garden/bigger apartment etc. and all amenities at a fraction of the price, why would they want to live in a tiny apartment on the rock, that's double the price?

Fredbargate

Whilst the two posts above may sound logical I refer you to my post 46.

The Gibraltar Government nor the people want frontier delays:-

EU Backs Gibraltar over Frontier Dispute – RRS SVR | DriveEuropeNews

Deputy Chief Minister meets EU ‘Frontier’ Commissioner

Why?

Simple, the delays stifle trade and disrupt the Frontier Workers who contribute to that trade

Gibraltar today announced that there are 195 people unemployed in Gibraltar
Consider that alongside the approx 10.000 who cross daily to work in Gibraltar.

What advantage is a restricted border to the Government of Gibraltar, what monetary value do they benefit by it?

EMR

What about the property developers they benefit from the fact that the border dicourages some who would rather live in Spain for the reasons we have discussed.
An open border would probably result in a fall in Gib property prices which would not be a bad thing.
Governments obviously benefit from the speding of those involved in construction, permits, taxes etc.

Fredbargate

The Government is the biggest property developer in Gibraltar.

The same Government that is petitioning for a freer frontier.

Spain is the one that benefits from construction with the majority of workers being Spanish and or living there. The majority of the materials come from Spain.

However do you not remember the following?

Spain bans exports to Gibraltar | Tumbit News Story

Friday night and those same Spanish construction workers are facing delays of one and a half hours or more to return to their families.

Fredbargate

Still waiting

Fredbargate

Now approaching two hours to travel a few meters.

Horlics

And wait you shall sir

Meanwhile, the Op has concluded exactly how helpful this thread is.

Bowman1984uk

ok sorry guys but just read the whole post and couldn't help but laugh. OP wants to try something new and is still young enough to do it ....... I say do it or you will forever be saying what if. Children are very very good at adapting as-long as you make sure to emphasise the need to speak the language. And I agree with the person who said that negativity should be left at the door. Lets try and help OP and offer good positive advice and not be doom sayers. And guys why the need to turn everything into an argument.

bob_bob

The cost of living in Spain is much the same as the UK bar buying or renting property.

Your two year old would have no problem 'picking up' the language so a state School is fine but your nine year old will struggle and really she'd need an International School... €€€€€€€

Your still young enough to move to the likes of Canada, New Zealand, Australia where language would not be a problem, there is room for you all to grow and money to be made. Spain is great if you have money, not so clever if you don't.

Think long and hard.

Moses2013

It's easy enough to move these days and we're all young enough (18-100+), but the reasons for a move are important. Why not just add a go for it button every time someone wants to move, because that's the easiest option. It always depends what you want in life, but I think it's important to look at all points. The OP has a very good salary and his wife could also work when the youngest can go to play school.

Rosemary

If we all only stated positive things about living in Spain, finding work here etc we would not provide posters with the information that they require in order to make an informed decision. Therefore you will find that members will provide negative and positive responses according to their experiences. We all have different experiences so there are bound to be different viewpoints about all issues and that is why this is called a discussion forum. Providing a full and varied amount of advantages and disadvantages aids peoples research, giving purely positive responses would be unfair and not informative and very unbalanced.

Negative feedback is not being a doom sayer but being honest about certain situations.

Arguments are not encouraged and in fact they detract from the points being made but good discussions on all relevant points are an aid to decision making.

Rosemary

davidinspain

Strange statement to make, without knowing the child in question

Moses2013

Yes, it really doesn't matter what age you are. Some will learn quickly and others might struggle.