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Old Sep 6th 2011, 11:00 am
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Originally Posted by fionamw
btw, marida seems to come up as being helpmate, companion, spouse, partner....
I dont know where you got that from

There is a short discussion here:
http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=1340100
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Originally Posted by cricketman
I dont know where you got that from

There is a short discussion here:
http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=1340100

http://definicion.dictionarist.com/marida

and using the bog standard google translator, it came up with helpmate.
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Originally Posted by fionamw
http://definicion.dictionarist.com/marida

and using the bog standard google translator, it came up with helpmate.
Well, some technology is wrong! Its not in the extended Collins Spanish to English dictionary and my wife says it doesnt exist. I know because when we got married a few years ago I used that word and she laughed at me, saying its quite cute but doesnt exist.

If you google "marida" into google.es there are hardly any results, just to 1 comedy show, where they probably made the word up, also.

I'm sure JLFS will confirm at some point
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Originally Posted by cricketman
Well, some technology is wrong! Its not in the extended Collins Spanish to English dictionary and my wife says it doesnt exist. I know because when we got married a few years ago I used that word and she laughed at me, saying its quite cute but doesnt exist.

If you google "marida" into google.es there are hardly any results, just to 1 comedy show, where they probably made the word up, also.

I'm sure JLFS will confirm at some point
I would tend to agree - I was certainly taught the same...............but with the caveat that all words were made up at some point, and if words find their way into general usage thay do eventually find their way into dictionaries

and marida possibly or even probably will find its way into the RAE at some stage
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Originally Posted by lynnxa
I would tend to agree - I was certainly taught the same...............but with the caveat that all words were made up at some point, and if words find their way into general usage thay do eventually find their way into dictionaries

and marida possibly or even probably will find its way into the RAE at some stage
An intelligent and thoughtful point.
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Originally Posted by lynnxa
I would tend to agree - I was certainly taught the same...............but with the caveat that all words were made up at some point, and if words find their way into general usage thay do eventually find their way into dictionaries

and marida possibly or even probably will find its way into the RAE at some stage
Sure, but at this stage probably not best use the word marida. At best people will find it endearing, at wors,t confusing
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Don't people just use the word pareja for their partner now? Or is that just in a city like Madrid? I've heard the term media naranja too.
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Originally Posted by steviedeluxe
Don't people just use the word pareja for their partner now? Or is that just in a city like Madrid? I've heard the term media naranja too.
Certainly use pareja hereabouts, and mujer. Don't think I've ever heard esposa even when they're married!!
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Originally Posted by bil
a simple phrase like 'Porfa, sabe Ud. Inglés?'
Unlike us, the Spanish don't use capital letters for languages or nationalities, so "inglés", not Inglés. Ditto "los ingleses".
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Originally Posted by fionamw
Certainly use pareja hereabouts, and mujer. Don't think I've ever heard esposa even when they're married!!
Talking of names for women, I like "maruja" to refer to a sort of housebound woman, doing all the housework, with no outside job. Has a connotation of a woman lacking in intelligence, not capable of doing a real job.
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We have just spent a week on the CDS and it was a shock. Our children, who are "fluent" in the Spanish language, were not allowed to speak Spanish. Everytime someone realised that we were English they said "it is OK we speak English". Even though we were tourists I found the English tourist to be really rude, especially the children. Our children were excited about meeting English children but, after a few nasty episodes, decided that the Spanish children were much more polite.
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Old Sep 6th 2011, 12:42 pm
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Originally Posted by battlezone123
We have just spent a week on the CDS and it was a shock. Our children, who are "fluent" in the Spanish language, were not allowed to speak Spanish. Everytime someone realised that we were English they said "it is OK we speak English". Even though we were tourists I found the English tourist to be really rude, especially the children. Our children were excited about meeting English children but, after a few nasty episodes, decided that the Spanish children were much more polite.
I think as far as 'holidays' are concerned, my son probably gets equally nice treatment from the British parents of kids he might play with on the beach as from Spanish parents in the same scenario. As someone else said before, people are rude or nice regardless of nationality.
Just re-read your post... you mean even with your children speaking fluently the Spanish staff were replying in English? I've never come across that! Where? With me, maybe but not with 9yo... they usually start gabbling on to each other 19 to the dozen about Barca or Real Madrid or something else football-orientated
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Originally Posted by jackytoo
I wonder if spaniards feel embarrassed when they see gyppos running round pushing flowers in tourists faces (and worse)

I always do try to learn a few words in any country I visit but I doubt large and small beer as in OP would have been a priority! Anyone doing a cruise in the med would have to spend some time before their holiday.

If anyone should feel ashamed it is the chiringuito. Millions of British tourists pass through the coast every year, they are the ones who should know large and small in at least 4 languages.

I suppose you realise that many spaniards earn their living because most ex-pats don't speak the lingo. Just reading the posts on here demonstrates that most of you are incapable of even calling the ayuntamiento to ask which documents are needed for empadramiento etc. I would really like to be a fly on the wall listening to some of you "embarrassed to be Brit folk" have a conversation in spanish.

Just to wrap up who do you think the chiringuito would prefer as a customer. A high spending tourist who pays around 70 euro for a meal and drinks or an impoverished ex-pat who chats to him in spanish, has a tubo for an hour and leaves.
I have a Spanish friend and neighbour who returned to live in Spain 2 years ago after spending most of her life in Switzerland. She often tells me she is ashamed of the way some of the Spanish people who live around here behave - no tienen caracter, she says. In her eyes they are lazy, do not want to work and they are an embarassment to her.
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Old Sep 6th 2011, 1:16 pm
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Originally Posted by battlezone123
We have just spent a week on the CDS and it was a shock. Our children, who are "fluent" in the Spanish language, were not allowed to speak Spanish. Everytime someone realised that we were English they said "it is OK we speak English". Even though we were tourists I found the English tourist to be really rude, especially the children. Our children were excited about meeting English children but, after a few nasty episodes, decided that the Spanish children were much more polite.
That is maybe one of the reasons some Brits will not or cannot learn Spanish, because so many Spanish are trying to learn English and try to speak it as much as they can.

Just a point of interest, Benalmadena council are running Spanish lessons, enrolment is this month.
Only Spanish is spoken at the enrolment place, foreigners are given 3 forms to fill in, of course all are in Spanish as we are in Spain.
This seems a little out of order to me and could maybe put people off applying, maybe it would help if there was another form that included translations of the required questions on the three forms, after all they are applying for Spanish lessons.
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Originally Posted by fionamw
Certainly use pareja hereabouts, and mujer. Don't think I've ever heard esposa even when they're married!!
esposa is more common in south america - but the younger generation here are beginning to adopt it
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