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Old Aug 1st 2017, 6:36 am   #1
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Looking in the Daily Express this morning it would appear that there are significant delays affecting EU airports. As we are flying from Alicante this Friday does anyone have experience of these delays?
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Old Aug 1st 2017, 7:42 am   #2
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Did Alicante run with my wife for her visit to the UK and collected friends etc over the last three weeks, only delay in it all was due to thunderstorms, rest was smooth. The feeling is to get there in plenty of time at the check in desk.
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Did Alicante run with my wife for her visit to the UK and collected friends etc over the last three weeks, only delay in it all was due to thunderstorms, rest was smooth. The feeling is to get there in plenty of time at the check in desk.
I'II be doing that anyway. Thanks.
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Looking in the Daily Express this morning it would appear that there are significant delays affecting EU airports. As we are flying from Alicante this Friday does anyone have experience of these delays?
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My daughter's flight was delayed on Sunday for over an hour from Valencia to Stansted. Just to make matters worse it then took an hour to pick up their car from the on airport meet and greet reception.
I am leaving today and keeping my fingers crossed as it is a late flight.
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Something to do with additional security checks and shortage of staff according to Guardian article today - not only Spain
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Something to do with additional security checks and shortage of staff according to Guardian article today - not only Spain
Exactly, new requirement to check database in Schengen Area for passport holders who are from outside the area.
Looks as if more a staffing issue , lack of sufficient border control personnel,than anything else.
New regulations will only be completely in place by October.
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It’s down to the UK refusing to join the Schengen area. If they had, there would not be these checks.
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It’s down to the UK refusing to join the Schengen area. If they had, there would not be these checks.
We flew home from Valencia last night. The flight was delayed for just under 2 hours due to the incoming flight arriving late.

However it was clearly too late for Spanish passport control as we went through totally unchecked as they had disappeared!

Just to make matters worse at Stansted we had to be bussed to the terminal and when we picked up the car the M11 southbound was shut causing major problems and the best part of another 1hour delay.

The joys of travel.
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Not just a Schengen area issue - Heathrow and Gatwick coming apart as well for other reasons.

British Airways apologises for 'total chaos' due to system failure
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Elements of the UK Press trying to imply that this is an EU conspiracy to "get" the British!

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Why can't the Spanish Authorities be given the passenger manifest before the plane leaves the UK or before the passengers arrive at the airport for the return journey?

They could do all the checks they need and flag up anyone they want to look at more closely and just pull those people out of the line for more enquiries.

It's what the Americans have done for years.
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Why can't the Spanish Authorities be given the passenger manifest before the plane leaves the UK or before the passengers arrive at the airport for the return journey?

They could do all the checks they need and flag up anyone they want to look at more closely and just pull those people out of the line for more enquiries.

It's what the Americans have done for years.
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Exactly, new requirement to check database in Schengen Area for passport holders who are from outside the area.
Looks as if more a staffing issue , lack of sufficient border control personnel,than anything else.
New regulations will only be completely in place by October.
Queues at borders and lack of staff, How novel
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Well, I'm going this Friday and getting there in plenty of time. I'll keep you posted.
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