booboo24

Does anyone know what it is? A local lady has asked us if we have any paid work for her. She wont give me an hourly rate and I have no idea what the minimum wage is. It will only be for a few hours a week doing a bit of ironing, cleaning etc.

AntsMcMurdosch

The monthly minimum wage for full time work is EUR783.66 (source: http://www.eurofound.europa.eu/eiro/...si1301031i.htm ), but I don't know how many hours per week this is based on...

booboo24

Thanks AntsMcMurdosch, I cant seem to find an hourly either, I am assuming there is one!?

Sue

Hi booboo24,

Did you ever find this out? If so it would be great if you could share an update as it may help others in this section.

booboo24

No, not the hourly rate, getting the correct information here is like trying to find a needle in a hay stack ))

Mitzyboy

Yes, it seems quiet here at the moment

Sir Harry le Fise Lake

€734.15 per month gross

go to government info site, and search for minimum wage

http://www.vlada.si/nc/en/media_room...569/?tx_ttnews[backPid]=489

If you can find a more modern entry, it may have changed.

This, of course, is the official minimum - so that means paying Soc Sec contributions on top.

I doubt any Slovene who employs house service persons cash in hand pays that rate, ie 734/40 € per hour. ie around 13.40 per hour. It will surely be less. €10 maximum, I should think. Probably €7 or 8.

HlFL

fidobsa

Yes, Hungary may be slightly poorer than Slovenia but I can get people from my village to work for £10 a day for unskilled jobs.

fidobsa

Not sure how you get that figure?

734.15 x 12 = 8809.80 per year
8809.80 divided by 52 = 169.42 per week
169.42 divided by 40 = 4.23 per hour

booboo24

I don't either! No one that I know of here for unskilled gets as much as 4.23, not even interspar pays that!!! They pay 3 euros an hour! A Lorry driver was telling me that the nursery that he delivers for here is paying the workers 2.30 Euros an hour

fidobsa

That is gross though, could the lower figures be net, after taxes?

booboo24

No, but..I am only going on what we have been told by people who work there! Crap isn't it? People here tend to have two incomes per house hold and a small holding/part of a family farm, at the very least have an allotment. Nobody here can survive on one income per household.
In six years I have seen people being happy with what they have to struggling to keep up with inflation and pay cuts/job losses!

Sir Harry le Fise Lake

Mr/Ms Fidobsa,

You go a long way about it, but, forsooth, you are right.

I must, alas, accept the Michael's definition that I am rather a fuddy-duddy old knight.

The monthly sume of €734.50 must be divided by 4 x 40, ie 160, since the pay is for one month, not one week.

So my initial calculation was out by a factor of 4. (I did think it sounded rather a lot myself) .

Thus, the min wage (gross) is 734/160 per hour = 4.59 euro/hour.

Again, however, i suspect the kind of unskilled work that folks can do in the garden will be more like €3 per hour in reality.

HTH, HlFL

mbkarl

The monthly gross minimum wage is currently €783.66 (it is expected to increase slightly from the 1st July).

Anyone earning less than the minimum wage is likely to be working with Student Status via one of the student work agency.

Of course all this could be avoided if the Slovenian government just clearly defined an hourly minimum of wage.

Although they have shy'ed away from this in the past as it was calculated it should be €6 to €7 based on the cost of living here.

They wouldn't dare bring this in as it would stop only the rich people right at the top getting richer....

AntsMcMurdosch

Not only can employers get away with paying them less, there are tax benefits to employing students over non-students.

The result is many people in unskilled jobs who aren't students are employed under the name of a student. They just don't get hired otherwise. So if you don't know a student who is willing to do this for you and is trustworthy (your wages will get paid into their bank account), you remain unemployed.

Student groups vehemently guard against any changes the government want to bring in, and rightly so. But personally I think the balance is tipped too much in their favour to the detriment of graduates and others. There are many advantages to hiring students - willingness to work evenings and weekends, happy to be flexible on shifts and hours, etc. Providing monetary advantages to employers looking for unskilled casual labour in addition to the natural advantages of student labour make the question of hiring a student or a non-student a "no-brainer".