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tommy.irene Jul 30th 2012 8:20 pm

MOVE TO SPAIN AND GET FREE HEALTHCARE
 
Move to Spain and get free healthcare!
Friday, 27th July, 2012 by Anthony Strachan
The Spanish Health Minister, Ana Mató, has announced that all legal residents of Spain whose income from all sources is less than €100,000 a year will be eligible for free medical care from 1st September 2012.


This includes foreigners from the EU or elsewhere, whether or not they contribute to the Social Security system or are in work, who will be able to apply for a SIP card allowing them to register with a doctor and to be treated for all infirmities, even pre-existing conditions, by the State. EU citizens and other nationals from countries which have reciprocal agreements with Spain will be treated in accordance with the conditions of the treaties.

All spouses or partners of those who qualify for free medical services and who are registered on the padrón will also be entitled to State healthcare as will registered children or siblings under 26 years old. Those who retire early and are not yet claiming a State pension will be entitled to free medical care only if they earn less than €100,000 per annum before tax.

Illegal immigrants will not be entitled to free care, except for children, pregnant women and emergency cases. Around half a million people are likely to be affected, mostly those from Latin America, North Africa and Eastern Europe.

tommy.irene Jul 30th 2012 8:21 pm

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Guidance regarding Rules and Regulations in the Canaries
Has anyone seen this?
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/overseas-...ree-healthcare
Move to Spain and get free healthcare!
www.rightmove.co.uk
Rightmove - Rightmove Overseas Property | Move to Spain and get free healthcare! - The Spanish Health Minister, Ana Mató, has announced that all legal residents of Spain whose income from all sources is less than €100,000 a year will be eligible for free medical care from 1st September 2012.

tommy.irene Jul 30th 2012 8:23 pm

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But not free prescriptions

steviedeluxe Jul 30th 2012 8:49 pm

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Could this be why they are clamping down on the residency entitlements?

bobd22 Jul 30th 2012 8:51 pm

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I was wondering that, also strange can't find it anywhere else

anonimouse Jul 30th 2012 10:41 pm

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Originally Posted by tommy.irene (Post 10201618)
But not free prescriptions

Yeah, I have to pay 10% now with my SIP:thumbdown:

Not sure how true the other reports are about SIP cards for all residents, been googleing like mad, not much out there yet:confused:

Domino Jul 30th 2012 10:57 pm

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been waiting months for mine, started thumping the desk, my medical registration was put thru "without card" si have had to fill in another form requesting the card

anonimouse Jul 30th 2012 11:04 pm

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Originally Posted by Domino (Post 10201825)
been waiting months for mine, started thumping the desk, my medical registration was put thru "without card" si have had to fill in another form requesting the card

That's about right, a two minute job, here, takes forever:rofl:

Pocaloca Jul 31st 2012 8:58 am

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It was announced in the English language press a few weeks ago. It's an EU requirement I think? It is surely one of the reasons for the clampdown on obtaining residency.

"ALL legal residents in Spain who earn less than 100,000 euros per year will have the right to free medical care on the State from September 1 this year, says health minister Ana Mató (pictured).

Even foreigners – EU citizens or otherwise – and irrespective of whether or not they pay into the Social Security system or are working – will be able to obtain a SIP card, which lets them register with a doctor and be treated for all ailments, pre-existing or otherwise, by the State.

EU citizens or nationals of other countries which have reciprocal agreements with Spain will receive healthcare in accordance with the conditions established by these treaties.

Those who fall into one of four categories – State pensioners, employees or registered self-employed workers, those registered on and claiming dole, and those whose dole money has run out but who remain recorded as jobseekers with their unemployment office – are automatically eligible without question.
Residents who do not fall into any of these categories – ‘black’ workers who have never earned enough to ‘go legal’, or early retirees not yet old enough to claim a State pension, for example – will only be entitled to free healthcare if they earn less than 100,000 euros a year before tax.

These earnings include income from working, businesses owned, capital returns or capital gains, wherever these can be offset against or are taken into account when calculating income tax.

All live-in partners of those who qualify for free medical treatment, who are registered on the padrón as such are entitled to State healthcare, as are children or siblings aged under 26 years where they live with the qualifying party."

agoreira Jul 31st 2012 9:53 am

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The problem is that Spain is to introduce new measures to control immigrants by insisting they can support themselves, and if they don't have a job, they have to have health insurance, if I read it correctly. So it's not just a question of turning up for free healthcare. So much for the free movement between EU countries.

Migrants must prove they have either a job or enough money to support themselves, and if they are jobless, they must produce health insurance.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...=feeds-newsxml

Pocaloca Jul 31st 2012 6:22 pm

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Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 10202533)
The problem is that Spain is to introduce new measures to control immigrants by insisting they can support themselves, and if they don't have a job, they have to have health insurance, if I read it correctly. So it's not just a question of turning up for free healthcare. So much for the free movement between EU countries.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...=feeds-newsxml

Thats what I don't understand, why will new applicants have to get health insurance if there is free healthcare for all legal residents? :confused:

anonimouse Jul 31st 2012 6:31 pm

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Originally Posted by Pocaloca (Post 10203318)
Thats what I don't understand, why will new applicants have to get health insurance if there is free healthcare for all legal residents? :confused:

I'm interested in this but very confused, as to what actually is the truth and how will this save Spain money:confused:

agoreira Jul 31st 2012 6:41 pm

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Originally Posted by Pocaloca (Post 10203318)
Thats what I don't understand, why will new applicants have to get health insurance if there is free healthcare for all legal residents? :confused:

They could be prevented from becoming legal residents, is that what you mean?


If they cannot supply the evidence, their application for residency in Spain may be rejected.

Fred James Jul 31st 2012 6:42 pm

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Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 10202533)
. So much for the free movement between EU countries. ]

That's always been confusing.

The fact is you have the right of movement but you don't have the right to stop moving - ie stay for more than 90 consecutive days.

There is nothing new in that - it has always been the case. EU law allows countries to impose certain conditions if you want to stay - such as proof of income/healthcare provision.

The combination of this and the supposed right of all residents to free healthcare is contradictory to say the least.

On that basis you have to produce a copy of your health policy when you apply to stay in Spain and as soon as you get that you cancel the policy and claim free cover as a resident.

You couldn't make it up if you tried:thumbdown::thumbdown:

JLFS Jul 31st 2012 6:42 pm

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I am confused as to how a foreigner who is under pension age only pays 10% of their prescritions with a SIP. whereas a national of working age pays a lot more.

Could someone clear this up?


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