Read this, this morning, and thought I would put it on here to see what your comments would be.




Tonight I shall go and have a drink for Margaret Thatcher's death. I shall raise my glass to the night sky, and THANK HER, and celebrate her life. People on this seem to have a very strange view of history. So here are a few little nuggets with how and more specifically WHY a lot of industries were destroyed by her, and what's more, ...destroyed with the MANDATE OF THE BRITISH PEOPLE. The seventies were blighted by the trade unions waiting for winter and then coming out on strike at it's heart. Holding the country to ransom for ANNUAL pay rises of up to 36% ABOVE inflation. This was the likes of Scargill and co. And they bled us dry. We were bankrupted by them. And then the Winter of Discontent happened. And they ALL came out. Miners, power workers, transport workers; even funeral directors, everything tied into the TGWU came out. My own grandparents lay on a slab for 2 months waiting to be buried. The entire country was a ruin. Rubbish not collected for months, rats everywhere. And the unions laughed, and brought down Callaghan's Labour Government. And Thatcher stood up at the General Election and made ONE SIMPLE PROMISE. Elect me. And THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN. ELECT ME AND I WILL DESTROY THEM. She won a landslide. On that promise.And she became the last elected Prime Minister to actually hold true to her election promise. She did exactly what she said. She utterly destroyed the unions. Obliterated them. The cost was those industries. We knew that would be the price. But we would not allow them to hold us to ransom again. What she did, she did with our BLESSING. The socialists and people who backed those strikes have only themselves to blame for what happened. Baroness Thatcher didn't destroy those industries and communities for fun or as part of a class war. She did it to stop them holding the country to ransom again. And then she held the purse strings tight and re-built the economy and the country and Britain again stood tall and thrived. And we won back the global respect we had lost while the left wing ruled. In the Falklands we were thankful for her being in office. Those of us who went 'south' in '82 did so knowing we had a leader who would not - and did not- interfere. She sent the military and allowed us to do our job. Gave us the money, the equipment and most of all THE FREEDOM to get the job done. Our lands had been invaded. We had a gun up our nose. SHE led us. Frankly Thatcher took a very broken Britain by the hand like a strict old fashioned Matron and LED THE COUNTRY BACK TO WHERE IT HAD ONCE BEEN. We were the worlds 3rd major power in ALL respects. And as for the world, it has NEVER been safer than when Thatcher was in Downing Street, Reagan was in the White House and Gorbachev was in the Kremlin as the three spoke DAILY. They laid the ground for the fall of the Berlin Wall. The Russians were TERRIFIED of her. And the world again feared Britain. And lets not forget that she gave people the full right to buy their own council property. Her vision was that the TENNANT and the tennant alone could buy that property.As soon as her party stabbed her in the back the feeding frenzy began as under her the famous Tory grandee greed was held in check. So they stabbed her, led by the europro traitor ponce Heseltine - who didn't have the guts to face her openly and alone - they arranged her removal. And we have been a broken patsy for europe ever since. So yes, tonight I will celebrate the death of Baroness Thatcher, with thanks, with respect, and with sadness, because she allowed me to know what we could be, what we could achieve, what it meant to be BRITISH


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Phew Noni,

Thats a forum splitter if I ever saw one !

I for one think she was an evil destructive person and her legacy is one we are all suffering with today and that is one of GREED.

Our manufacturing industry and coal industry were hammered and we were led down the false path of paper money wealth, we had record high unemployment, record interest rates and record house repossesions to name a few. I worked in the insurance industry at the time and it was pitiful to have to deal with ordinary people cancelling their life and home insurance policies due to the unemployment levels.

One could argue the coal mining industry was a dinosaur and needed modernising but the human cost of closure affected not just the miner but the butcher, baker and candlestick maker and indeed whole communities were destroyed ( we now import most of our coal but we have thousands of tons under our feet.)

A country cannot survive without a manufacturing industry as we have found out to our cost.
Look at our old "ally" Germany - after re-unification they still stood by their motor industry to name one - Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Volswagen but who owns our car industry ?
Germany may not have won too many wars of recent but they have certainly won the European fiscal war

Her funeral costs are estimated at £10 million ( the Thatcher family are kindly putting in £800k) and MPs who are out of the country can claim up to £3750 in expenses to come back to parliament early to show their respects

Margaret Thatcher The Iron Lady - may she rust in pieces

R of S going for me medication now

Are bless ! Sorry to stress you out - BUT If only politicians today had her honesty, integrity and big brass balls.

Now I would be up in arms if B-liar had a funeral which we had to pay for, and as for the MP's collecting £3750 expenses they ought to be ashamed of themselves. That is more than half what pensioners get in a year.

The funeral would not be so expensive if the hooligans were respectful, and not having street parties causing so much damage to innocent people's property.

Should be an interesting thread - just all of you have a drink on me.

I agree with both sides of this thread, yes she was all that you describe, but also the result of her policies was much unemployment and misery for many. The famous sale of council houses partly the reason for todays shortage, but I think she just had lack of thought about such people rather than the deliberate misdeeds of Mr Blair. I think she deserves respect in death.

Can't have a drink, just had my penultimate chemo today. Secret swigs don't work can't taste it Worth it though for the total cure.

Good luck with the chemo. XX

Thank you so much Tina.

Thank you Noni for that very nice post. Well compiled and gave me a lot more info about The Iron Lady.

RIP

Hear hear....

Sorry Noni but overall she did more harm than good, was not a good role model for women and was eventually booted out by her own party.

She certainly had more balls than any other leader of recent times!

It seems people forget the prelude to her destruction of the unions....when the country was held to ransom virtually every winter for utter greed (such as 35% pay rises and more). I recall being a child and how unpleasant the effects of those strikes were virtually every winter. I am completely pro people receiving reasonable pay rises on an annual basis so their standard of living continues, but some of the demands back were quite unreasonable.

Quite frankly if it were my choice I would want her as PM anytime over that scumbag Tony B-Liar, who should be charged with war crimes, corruption and gross malfeasance of public office. All he leaves as his legacy is a sub class of benefit dependents, out of control criminality, and country borders which are now unsafe from terrorism! As for his and that muppet Gordon(is a moron) Brown's claims of brilliance on the UK economy...........well that turned out to be a blatant deception which has left the country broke and in debt!
I am actually quite proud of the fact that when I received a national award and was supposed to have my photograph taken with B-Liar - I choose to go to the toilet instead !!!!!

I am sure the lefties of this forum will have plenty to say in response to this one
Fill ur boots !!!!

Dread - x

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...h-8567288.html


Grace Dent: Thatcher's children we may be, but these death parties are just childish



Would I be here without her as an example? There’s no place for cogent pondering right now. You’re either a “Tory twat” or you have a death party to organise

As I said before I think both sides of this discussion have valid points of view.
Blair and Brown were probably two of our worst leaders to compare with Mrs Thatcher is a nonsense.
I think Mrs Thatcher was great leader but it is inevitable that she made some mistakes, she was human.
There were victims of her policies who suffered and they are bound to remain bitter.
I was working in senior schools in the Midlands at that time and I still remember (almost with tears) the rags of clothes some teenagers wore, the result of unemployed families and V.A.T. put on larger children's clothes. (One doesn't have to be a 'leftie' to care about poverty).
Over all Mrs Thatcher was an amazing woman she was there to run the country not to promote feminism. She deserves respect in death, I think Glenda Jackson's speech in Parliament yesterday was disgraceful.

Hi All,

I think the sub class ( sorry know from my experience ) was already there and it was made worse by Mrs T and yes subsequent governments have just swept this particular part of society under the carpet and we are now reaping the" rewards"
Yes Blair is a warmonger but so was Thatcher - the General Belgrano was sailing away from the war zone when Mrs T bombed it. The Falklands cost us a packet to service and should be given back to Argentina, those that want to stay do so - but thats a different arguement.
Guess we won't agree on this one Dread

PS I am also left handed !

R of S

A complete 'leftie' then Santan -
I am actually ambidextrous myself - hehe !

...and there are always two sides to every coin..............and even though I have my own opinion on the matters, I can still understand and in some cases empathise with miners as many of my relations were miners ......unfortunately so many put their faith in Union leaders whose ways left much to be desired............but those same union leaders hardly suffered financial hardship did they?
How many properties does Scargill for example own??????

Dread - x

Glenda Jackson is an idiot anyway !
Hardly one to be taken seriously - after all wasn;t she one of the "token women" of New Labour...... !

Dread - x