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Old Mar 17th 2009, 2:08 pm   #1
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Hi to all!

I wonder if you could help me with this. At the moment I am writing CDR for Engineers Australia as a chemical engineer. I would extremely appreciate if anyone of you knows the answers to the following questions:

1. One of my career episode is based on the study project. I was assigned to make an outline design for a wastewater treatment plant, whereas design basis (maximum and average flow, pollution loadings and water quality to be achieved) was given to me by my professor. In this career episode I described what treatment line I chose, calculation I used for each treatment process design with exact equations and design parameters. I dont know how detailed I should be. Do I need to include equations and parameters, or just to use descriptive language, without exact equations?

2. How can I possibly claim to have a certain competency element (in summary statement) by addressing just one paragraph in an episode? Because, in my opinion, knowledge of science and engineering fundamentals in my career episode results from all paragraphs. For example, if I want to demonstrate that I have knowledge of science and engineering fundamentals in the school project I described above, in my opinion it simply results from all paragraphs (because each paragraph describes shortly one process design in the tretment line with a design equation). Could you please clarify this to me?

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Old Mar 17th 2009, 2:23 pm   #2
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Hi to all!

I wonder if you could help me with this. At the moment I am writing CDR for Engineers Australia as a chemical engineer. I would extremely appreciate if anyone of you knows the answers to the following questions:

1. One of my career episode is based on the study project. I was assigned to make an outline design for a wastewater treatment plant, whereas design basis (maximum and average flow, pollution loadings and water quality to be achieved) was given to me by my professor. In this career episode I described what treatment line I chose, calculation I used for each treatment process design with exact equations and design parameters. I dont know how detailed I should be. Do I need to include equations and parameters, or just to use descriptive language, without exact equations?

No. Just a description and name of the design procedure should be enough.


2. How can I possibly claim to have a certain competency element (in summary statement) by addressing just one paragraph in an episode? Because, in my opinion, knowledge of science and engineering fundamentals in my career episode results from all paragraphs. For example, if I want to demonstrate that I have knowledge of science and engineering fundamentals in the school project I described above, in my opinion it simply results from all paragraphs (because each paragraph describes shortly one process design in the tretment line with a design equation). Could you please clarify this to me?

If you feel a certain element is shown in all paragraphs, simply list them all. remember CDR is also aimed to assess your understanding to english and english used in engineering, so if you do it wrongly it would be a negative point for you.

My best regards!
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Answers in red. Hope it helps

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Old Mar 17th 2009, 2:36 pm   #3
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Thank you mavios.

But if I just describe my project, eventually my career episode won't reach recommended 1000-2000 words. Should I complement it with some theory?

Should I include the exact values of my results (e.g. volume of a certain basin that I calculated) and design basis?

Many thanks and best regards!
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Thank you mavios.

But if I just describe my project, eventually my career episode won't reach recommended 1000-2000 words. Should I complement it with some theory?

Should I include the exact values of my results (e.g. volume of a certain basin that I calculated) and design basis?

Many thanks and best regards!
I told you before, the reason why it's not a good idea doing a studying project is that you won't get enough words. and find it hard to address all the compentency elements.
Anyway, just writting theory is useless because it's not you who invented that or who developed it, and it won't help in addressing more elements. May be you should focus more on describing the problem.
Anyway how much did you manage to write?
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Old Mar 17th 2009, 3:22 pm   #5
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Thank you mavios.

I wrote about 1000 words. Yes, without real experience it's hard to satisfa those elements. But, on the other hand, not all of us are engaged in some projects at jobs. Most of us just carry out usual duties.
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Old Mar 17th 2009, 3:27 pm   #6
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Thank you mavios.

I wrote about 1000 words. Yes, without real experience it's hard to satisfa those elements. But, on the other hand, not all of us are engaged in some projects at jobs. Most of us just carry out usual duties.
I disagree, if you work as an engineer there should be a project. Even if you work in a university there will be some. Otherwise you are not working as an engineer. At least this is how I understand engineering.

By the way, you can always add diagrams, figures or photoes if you think it can make a contribution.
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Old Apr 25th 2009, 7:07 am   #7
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Hi doni,

Each of my episodes was 3 - 3.5 A4 pages long. IEAust tell you exactly to which extent they expect each narrative:

"Do not present large amounts of technical material. It is
recommended that each narrative be a minimum of about
1000 words and a maximum of about 2000 words."

"a) Introduction
This section would be about 50 words.
b) Background
This section would be about 200 - 500 words.
c) Personal Engineering Activity
This section would be about 500 - 1000 words.
d) Summary
This section would be about 50 - 100 words."

I would recommend trying to fulfil their expectations as good as possible. But be aware that you will have to prepare your summary statement in such a way that you can reference from each PE to one paragraph in one of your CEs. That will probably be the hardest task!

Don't worry too much as the CO at IEAust will get back to you in case he needs more input from you. Good luck!!

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Old Apr 25th 2009, 11:47 am   #8
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Thank you dcx01.

Do you know if CO from EA contacts applicants (in case they need additional input) by ordinary mail or e-mail?

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Old Apr 25th 2009, 12:05 pm   #9
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Hi doni,

Theyusually just contact you by email - and if there is anything specific you need to ask for, just do it the same way!

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Old Apr 25th 2009, 1:54 pm   #10
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Does anyone has examples of why your career episode wasn't good enough?

@mavios : you said something about adding photos or diagrams.. It's allowed to do that?
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Does anyone has examples of why your career episode wasn't good enough?

@mavios : you said something about adding photos or diagrams.. It's allowed to do that?
sure, I added diagrams to two of my career episodes and got a positive assessment in a short time.
A friend of mine showed a photo of the problem he was describing and added diagrams to one of his career episode, and now he's in Australia.
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what to write in summary of each career episode? Is that a sum up of all obove information or what competencies are matching with the job ??? what should I write ?

which is the best site for cdr examples or samples?

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which is the best site for cdr examples or samples?

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It is my question too. I do n't know why there is no CDR samples available anywhere?!
If someone has one, please upload it here, so , we can just go through it and get some ideas about CDR and how to write it.

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It is my question too. I do n't know why there is no CDR samples available anywhere?!
If someone has one, please upload it here, so , we can just go through it and get some ideas about CDR and how to write it.

Thanks in advance
EA don't want to see someone else's work. They want to see your work so they can ascertain whether you can be assessed as an engineer. Using someone else's CDR won't be of any use.

The EA website has a wealth of information on what they want to see in your CDR. I suggest you look there.
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Hi to all!

I wonder if you could help me with this. At the moment I am writing CDR for Engineers Australia as a chemical engineer. I would extremely appreciate if anyone of you knows the answers to the following questions:

1. One of my career episode is based on the study project. I was assigned to make an outline design for a wastewater treatment plant, whereas design basis (maximum and average flow, pollution loadings and water quality to be achieved) was given to me by my professor. In this career episode I described what treatment line I chose, calculation I used for each treatment process design with exact equations and design parameters. I dont know how detailed I should be. Do I need to include equations and parameters, or just to use descriptive language, without exact equations?

2. How can I possibly claim to have a certain competency element (in summary statement) by addressing just one paragraph in an episode? Because, in my opinion, knowledge of science and engineering fundamentals in my career episode results from all paragraphs. For example, if I want to demonstrate that I have knowledge of science and engineering fundamentals in the school project I described above, in my opinion it simply results from all paragraphs (because each paragraph describes shortly one process design in the tretment line with a design equation). Could you please clarify this to me?

My best regards!
It is difficult to say weather you should include exact equations or not. There is no restriction on using equations and parameters but it depends what exactly you are writing and in what contest you are using these equations. One need to know the whole story before commenting....
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