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Old Oct 4th 2008 | 7:38 pm
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I have a question. Most of my family qualify for Irish nationality due to recent Irish ancestry on my mother's side. I currently working in Abu Dhabi but want to have an exit plan in place in the next couple of years. My cousins in London have recently got Irish passports and told me to do the same as it has benefits.

Can anyone in a similar position let me know what it's like as a Brit going to Ireland to live and work vs being dual nationality going there...especially tax wise etc?

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I’ve got a Brit one, Irish one and Aussie one.

The only difference between the Irish and Brit one is the front cover and pretty pictures. They are both EU passports, so both get the exact same entitlements as the other.

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I’ve got a Brit one, Irish one and Aussie one.

The only difference between the Irish and Brit one is the front cover and pretty pictures. They are both EU passports, so both get the exact same entitlements as the other.

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Mike, you know we were talking about Crumlin. Well my uncle from Walkinstown was over at the weekend and said back in the 70's his car kept getting nicked. He went over to my other uncles house in Crumlin and said to my cousin, go upstairs and watch the car. By the time she'd gone upstairs someone had pushed it away! He saw it two days later on his way to work, in Ballyfermot, on his bike. No damage just appeared someone had borrowed it.
 
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Mike, you know we were talking about Crumlin. Well my uncle from Walkinstown was over at the weekend and said back in the 70's his car kept getting nicked. He went over to my other uncles house in Crumlin and said to my cousin, go upstairs and watch the car. By the time she'd gone upstairs someone had pushed it away! He saw it two days later on his way to work, in Ballyfermot, on his bike. No damage just appeared someone had borrowed it.
It must of been leighlin road, that always happened (although I've only been alive since the 80's, lol.... but it happened all the time).

People used to think our street was part of Beirut!

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Originally Posted by Mikeyc
I’ve got a Brit one, Irish one and Aussie one.

The only difference between the Irish and Brit one is the front cover and pretty pictures. They are both EU passports, so both get the exact same entitlements as the other.

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So not much use then unless I go to the states - getting hard to visit that place on a UK passport thanks to the Brit government giving passports to every jihadist in the western hemisphere.

I think I'll get mine for the pretty pictures then...
 
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So not much use then unless I go to the states - getting hard to visit that place on a UK passport thanks to the Brit government giving passports to every jihadist in the western hemisphere.

I think I'll get mine for the pretty pictures then...



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So not much use then unless I go to the states - getting hard to visit that place on a UK passport thanks to the Brit government giving passports to every jihadist in the western hemisphere.

I think I'll get mine for the pretty pictures then...
You might as well get it if you can, it can't hurt, and will always come in handy should you be kidnapped overseas - you'll have more than one embassy trying to get you back

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Originally Posted by Norm_uk
Hi

I have a question. Most of my family qualify for Irish nationality due to recent Irish ancestry on my mother's side. I currently working in Abu Dhabi but want to have an exit plan in place in the next couple of years. My cousins in London have recently got Irish passports and told me to do the same as it has benefits.

Can anyone in a similar position let me know what it's like as a Brit going to Ireland to live and work vs being dual nationality going there...especially tax wise etc?
Was your mother born in Ireland? If so, you're automatically an Irish citizen and just need to get a passport.

If it was a grandparent, then you need to apply for registration as a citizen.

Being an Irish citizen gives you a few extra rights, such as full voting rights and a second passport. Day to day it won't make much difference compared to being a British citizen living in Ireland, but if you see your future there it makes sense to be a citizen rather than a foreigner.

I doubt it will make any difference to your tax position but you could look at http://www.revenue.ie
 
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Originally Posted by Norm_uk
So not much use then unless I go to the states - getting hard to visit that place on a UK passport thanks to the Brit government giving passports to every jihadist in the western hemisphere.

I think I'll get mine for the pretty pictures then...
Is this true, that it may be easier to enter the US with an Irish passport? Both of my husband's parents were born in Ireland, but he grew up and lives in Scotland. We want to start the paperwork to get him to live here in the US with me (USC) and not looking forward to any difficulties that may arise.
 
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Is this true, that it may be easier to enter the US with an Irish passport?
No, not true.

There is some talk that the Irish government is trying to negotiate a bilateral work rights deal with the United States, but if you are sponsoring him for immigration (permanent residence/green card) then this would be irrelevant as permanent status gives more rights.

Is he aware that if he wants any children born outside Ireland to be Irish citizens, he needs to register them (he's a citizen automatically, just needs to apply for a passport to prove it).
 
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Originally Posted by JAJ
No, not true.

There is some talk that the Irish government is trying to negotiate a bilateral work rights deal with the United States, but if you are sponsoring him for immigration (permanent residence/green card) then this would be irrelevant as permanent status gives more rights.

Is he aware that if he wants any children born outside Ireland to be Irish citizens, he needs to register them (he's a citizen automatically, just needs to apply for a passport to prove it).
Thanks for setting that straight. And no, he already has two kids who live in Ireland with their Irish-born mother, so that's not an issue.
 
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Thanks for setting that straight. And no, he already has two kids who live in Ireland with their Irish-born mother, so that's not an issue.
Are the children British citizens too? Where were they born and was he married to the mother?
 
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Are the children British citizens too? Where were they born and was he married to the mother?
Good question. They were born on the Isle of Man, which I think does make them British citizens, and yes, he was married to their mother. They moved to Ireland with her, where she was originally from, after the divorce.
 
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Good question. They were born on the Isle of Man, which I think does make them British citizens, and yes, he was married to their mother. They moved to Ireland with her, where she was originally from, after the divorce.
In that case they are British citizens by birth and Irish citizens by descent.
 
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In that case they are British citizens by birth and Irish citizens by descent.
Thanks for that. Just a thought though....it's Northern Ireland where their mother is from, so does that make her a British citizen too? Please excuse my ignorance.
 


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