Boeing develops Anti Hijack pilot system
Mar 4th 2007, 7:12 pm
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Boeing develops Anti Hijack pilot system
New autopilot will make another 9/11 impossible
03.03.07
Enlarge the picture to see how 'autoland' will work
A hijack-proof piloting system for airliners is being developed to
prevent terrorists repeating the 9/11 outrages.
The mechanism is designed to make it impossible to crash the aircraft
into air or land targets - and enable the plane to be flown by remote
control from the ground in the event of an emergency.
Scientists at aircraft giant Boeing are testing the tamper-proof
autopilot system which uses state-of-the-art computer and satellite
technology.
It will be activated by the pilot flicking a simple switch or by
pressure sensors fitted to the cockpit door that will respond to any
excessive force as terrorists try to break into the flight deck.
Once triggered, no one on board will be able to deactivate the system.
Currently, all autopilots are manually switched on and off at the
discretion of pilots.
The so-called 'uninterruptible autopilot system' - patented secretly
by Boeing in the US last week - will connect ground controllers and
security services with the aircraft using radio waves and global
satellite positioning systems.
After it has been activated, the aircraft will be capable of remote
digital control from the ground, enabling operators to fly it like a
sophisticated model plane, manoeuvring it vertically and laterally.
A threatened airliner could be flown to a secure military base or a
commercial airport, where it would touch down using existing landing
aids known as 'autoland function'.
After it had landed, the aircraft's built-in autobrake would bring the
plane safely to a halt on the runway.
Boeing insiders say the new anti-hijack kit could be fitted to
airliners all over the world, including those in the UK, within the
next three years.
The latest move to combat airline terrorists follows The Mail on
Sunday's disclosure three weeks ago that scientists in Britain and
Germany are developing a passenger-monitoring device.
This will use tiny cameras linked to specialist computers to record
every twitch, blink, facial expression or suspicious movement made on
board flights in order to identify potential terrorists.
A Boeing spokesman said : "We are constantly studying ways we can
enhance the safety, security and efficiency of the world's airline
fleet.
"There is a need in the industry for a technique that conclusively
prevents unauthorised persons gaining access to the controls and
threatening the safety of passengers.
"Once this system is initiated, no one on board is capable of
controlling the flight, making it useless for anyone to threaten
violence in order to gain control."
03.03.07
Enlarge the picture to see how 'autoland' will work
A hijack-proof piloting system for airliners is being developed to
prevent terrorists repeating the 9/11 outrages.
The mechanism is designed to make it impossible to crash the aircraft
into air or land targets - and enable the plane to be flown by remote
control from the ground in the event of an emergency.
Scientists at aircraft giant Boeing are testing the tamper-proof
autopilot system which uses state-of-the-art computer and satellite
technology.
It will be activated by the pilot flicking a simple switch or by
pressure sensors fitted to the cockpit door that will respond to any
excessive force as terrorists try to break into the flight deck.
Once triggered, no one on board will be able to deactivate the system.
Currently, all autopilots are manually switched on and off at the
discretion of pilots.
The so-called 'uninterruptible autopilot system' - patented secretly
by Boeing in the US last week - will connect ground controllers and
security services with the aircraft using radio waves and global
satellite positioning systems.
After it has been activated, the aircraft will be capable of remote
digital control from the ground, enabling operators to fly it like a
sophisticated model plane, manoeuvring it vertically and laterally.
A threatened airliner could be flown to a secure military base or a
commercial airport, where it would touch down using existing landing
aids known as 'autoland function'.
After it had landed, the aircraft's built-in autobrake would bring the
plane safely to a halt on the runway.
Boeing insiders say the new anti-hijack kit could be fitted to
airliners all over the world, including those in the UK, within the
next three years.
The latest move to combat airline terrorists follows The Mail on
Sunday's disclosure three weeks ago that scientists in Britain and
Germany are developing a passenger-monitoring device.
This will use tiny cameras linked to specialist computers to record
every twitch, blink, facial expression or suspicious movement made on
board flights in order to identify potential terrorists.
A Boeing spokesman said : "We are constantly studying ways we can
enhance the safety, security and efficiency of the world's airline
fleet.
"There is a need in the industry for a technique that conclusively
prevents unauthorised persons gaining access to the controls and
threatening the safety of passengers.
"Once this system is initiated, no one on board is capable of
controlling the flight, making it useless for anyone to threaten
violence in order to gain control."
Mar 4th 2007, 8:41 pm
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Re: Boeing develops Anti Hijack pilot system
That sound just great. Now they won't even have to hijack a plane. You just
have to hijack the ground station that is controlling the plane and then fly
it where ever you want.
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected] oups.com...
> New autopilot will make another 9/11 impossible
> 03.03.07
>
>
> Enlarge the picture to see how 'autoland' will work
>
> A hijack-proof piloting system for airliners is being developed to
> prevent terrorists repeating the 9/11 outrages.
>
> The mechanism is designed to make it impossible to crash the aircraft
> into air or land targets - and enable the plane to be flown by remote
> control from the ground in the event of an emergency.
>
> Scientists at aircraft giant Boeing are testing the tamper-proof
> autopilot system which uses state-of-the-art computer and satellite
> technology.
>
> It will be activated by the pilot flicking a simple switch or by
> pressure sensors fitted to the cockpit door that will respond to any
> excessive force as terrorists try to break into the flight deck.
>
> Once triggered, no one on board will be able to deactivate the system.
> Currently, all autopilots are manually switched on and off at the
> discretion of pilots.
>
> The so-called 'uninterruptible autopilot system' - patented secretly
> by Boeing in the US last week - will connect ground controllers and
> security services with the aircraft using radio waves and global
> satellite positioning systems.
>
> After it has been activated, the aircraft will be capable of remote
> digital control from the ground, enabling operators to fly it like a
> sophisticated model plane, manoeuvring it vertically and laterally.
>
> A threatened airliner could be flown to a secure military base or a
> commercial airport, where it would touch down using existing landing
> aids known as 'autoland function'.
>
> After it had landed, the aircraft's built-in autobrake would bring the
> plane safely to a halt on the runway.
>
> Boeing insiders say the new anti-hijack kit could be fitted to
> airliners all over the world, including those in the UK, within the
> next three years.
>
> The latest move to combat airline terrorists follows The Mail on
> Sunday's disclosure three weeks ago that scientists in Britain and
> Germany are developing a passenger-monitoring device.
>
> This will use tiny cameras linked to specialist computers to record
> every twitch, blink, facial expression or suspicious movement made on
> board flights in order to identify potential terrorists.
>
> A Boeing spokesman said : "We are constantly studying ways we can
> enhance the safety, security and efficiency of the world's airline
> fleet.
>
> "There is a need in the industry for a technique that conclusively
> prevents unauthorised persons gaining access to the controls and
> threatening the safety of passengers.
>
> "Once this system is initiated, no one on board is capable of
> controlling the flight, making it useless for anyone to threaten
> violence in order to gain control."
>
have to hijack the ground station that is controlling the plane and then fly
it where ever you want.
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected] oups.com...
> New autopilot will make another 9/11 impossible
> 03.03.07
>
>
> Enlarge the picture to see how 'autoland' will work
>
> A hijack-proof piloting system for airliners is being developed to
> prevent terrorists repeating the 9/11 outrages.
>
> The mechanism is designed to make it impossible to crash the aircraft
> into air or land targets - and enable the plane to be flown by remote
> control from the ground in the event of an emergency.
>
> Scientists at aircraft giant Boeing are testing the tamper-proof
> autopilot system which uses state-of-the-art computer and satellite
> technology.
>
> It will be activated by the pilot flicking a simple switch or by
> pressure sensors fitted to the cockpit door that will respond to any
> excessive force as terrorists try to break into the flight deck.
>
> Once triggered, no one on board will be able to deactivate the system.
> Currently, all autopilots are manually switched on and off at the
> discretion of pilots.
>
> The so-called 'uninterruptible autopilot system' - patented secretly
> by Boeing in the US last week - will connect ground controllers and
> security services with the aircraft using radio waves and global
> satellite positioning systems.
>
> After it has been activated, the aircraft will be capable of remote
> digital control from the ground, enabling operators to fly it like a
> sophisticated model plane, manoeuvring it vertically and laterally.
>
> A threatened airliner could be flown to a secure military base or a
> commercial airport, where it would touch down using existing landing
> aids known as 'autoland function'.
>
> After it had landed, the aircraft's built-in autobrake would bring the
> plane safely to a halt on the runway.
>
> Boeing insiders say the new anti-hijack kit could be fitted to
> airliners all over the world, including those in the UK, within the
> next three years.
>
> The latest move to combat airline terrorists follows The Mail on
> Sunday's disclosure three weeks ago that scientists in Britain and
> Germany are developing a passenger-monitoring device.
>
> This will use tiny cameras linked to specialist computers to record
> every twitch, blink, facial expression or suspicious movement made on
> board flights in order to identify potential terrorists.
>
> A Boeing spokesman said : "We are constantly studying ways we can
> enhance the safety, security and efficiency of the world's airline
> fleet.
>
> "There is a need in the industry for a technique that conclusively
> prevents unauthorised persons gaining access to the controls and
> threatening the safety of passengers.
>
> "Once this system is initiated, no one on board is capable of
> controlling the flight, making it useless for anyone to threaten
> violence in order to gain control."
>
Mar 4th 2007, 9:09 pm
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Re: Boeing develops Anti Hijack pilot system
Per [email protected]:
>"Once this system is initiated, no one on board is capable of
>controlling the flight, making it useless for anyone to threaten
>violence in order to gain control."
Sounds like the next challenge for the Bad Guys is to figure out how to hack
into that system while a plane is in the air and make it do what they want
without even having to sneak on board.
--
PeteCresswell
>"Once this system is initiated, no one on board is capable of
>controlling the flight, making it useless for anyone to threaten
>violence in order to gain control."
Sounds like the next challenge for the Bad Guys is to figure out how to hack
into that system while a plane is in the air and make it do what they want
without even having to sneak on board.
--
PeteCresswell
Mar 4th 2007, 9:43 pm
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Re: Boeing develops Anti Hijack pilot system
What a whole bunch of BUSHtards...
They will not repeat the same path people.
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected] oups.com...
> New autopilot will make another 9/11 impossible
> 03.03.07
>
>
> Enlarge the picture to see how 'autoland' will work
>
> A hijack-proof piloting system for airliners is being developed to
> prevent terrorists repeating the 9/11 outrages.
>
> The mechanism is designed to make it impossible to crash the aircraft
> into air or land targets - and enable the plane to be flown by remote
> control from the ground in the event of an emergency.
>
> Scientists at aircraft giant Boeing are testing the tamper-proof
> autopilot system which uses state-of-the-art computer and satellite
> technology.
>
> It will be activated by the pilot flicking a simple switch or by
> pressure sensors fitted to the cockpit door that will respond to any
> excessive force as terrorists try to break into the flight deck.
>
> Once triggered, no one on board will be able to deactivate the system.
> Currently, all autopilots are manually switched on and off at the
> discretion of pilots.
>
> The so-called 'uninterruptible autopilot system' - patented secretly
> by Boeing in the US last week - will connect ground controllers and
> security services with the aircraft using radio waves and global
> satellite positioning systems.
>
> After it has been activated, the aircraft will be capable of remote
> digital control from the ground, enabling operators to fly it like a
> sophisticated model plane, manoeuvring it vertically and laterally.
>
> A threatened airliner could be flown to a secure military base or a
> commercial airport, where it would touch down using existing landing
> aids known as 'autoland function'.
>
> After it had landed, the aircraft's built-in autobrake would bring the
> plane safely to a halt on the runway.
>
> Boeing insiders say the new anti-hijack kit could be fitted to
> airliners all over the world, including those in the UK, within the
> next three years.
>
> The latest move to combat airline terrorists follows The Mail on
> Sunday's disclosure three weeks ago that scientists in Britain and
> Germany are developing a passenger-monitoring device.
>
> This will use tiny cameras linked to specialist computers to record
> every twitch, blink, facial expression or suspicious movement made on
> board flights in order to identify potential terrorists.
>
> A Boeing spokesman said : "We are constantly studying ways we can
> enhance the safety, security and efficiency of the world's airline
> fleet.
>
> "There is a need in the industry for a technique that conclusively
> prevents unauthorised persons gaining access to the controls and
> threatening the safety of passengers.
>
> "Once this system is initiated, no one on board is capable of
> controlling the flight, making it useless for anyone to threaten
> violence in order to gain control."
>
They will not repeat the same path people.
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected] oups.com...
> New autopilot will make another 9/11 impossible
> 03.03.07
>
>
> Enlarge the picture to see how 'autoland' will work
>
> A hijack-proof piloting system for airliners is being developed to
> prevent terrorists repeating the 9/11 outrages.
>
> The mechanism is designed to make it impossible to crash the aircraft
> into air or land targets - and enable the plane to be flown by remote
> control from the ground in the event of an emergency.
>
> Scientists at aircraft giant Boeing are testing the tamper-proof
> autopilot system which uses state-of-the-art computer and satellite
> technology.
>
> It will be activated by the pilot flicking a simple switch or by
> pressure sensors fitted to the cockpit door that will respond to any
> excessive force as terrorists try to break into the flight deck.
>
> Once triggered, no one on board will be able to deactivate the system.
> Currently, all autopilots are manually switched on and off at the
> discretion of pilots.
>
> The so-called 'uninterruptible autopilot system' - patented secretly
> by Boeing in the US last week - will connect ground controllers and
> security services with the aircraft using radio waves and global
> satellite positioning systems.
>
> After it has been activated, the aircraft will be capable of remote
> digital control from the ground, enabling operators to fly it like a
> sophisticated model plane, manoeuvring it vertically and laterally.
>
> A threatened airliner could be flown to a secure military base or a
> commercial airport, where it would touch down using existing landing
> aids known as 'autoland function'.
>
> After it had landed, the aircraft's built-in autobrake would bring the
> plane safely to a halt on the runway.
>
> Boeing insiders say the new anti-hijack kit could be fitted to
> airliners all over the world, including those in the UK, within the
> next three years.
>
> The latest move to combat airline terrorists follows The Mail on
> Sunday's disclosure three weeks ago that scientists in Britain and
> Germany are developing a passenger-monitoring device.
>
> This will use tiny cameras linked to specialist computers to record
> every twitch, blink, facial expression or suspicious movement made on
> board flights in order to identify potential terrorists.
>
> A Boeing spokesman said : "We are constantly studying ways we can
> enhance the safety, security and efficiency of the world's airline
> fleet.
>
> "There is a need in the industry for a technique that conclusively
> prevents unauthorised persons gaining access to the controls and
> threatening the safety of passengers.
>
> "Once this system is initiated, no one on board is capable of
> controlling the flight, making it useless for anyone to threaten
> violence in order to gain control."
>
Mar 4th 2007, 9:46 pm
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"(PeteCresswell)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Per [email protected]:
>>"Once this system is initiated, no one on board is capable of
>>controlling the flight, making it useless for anyone to threaten
>>violence in order to gain control."
>
> Sounds like the next challenge for the Bad Guys is to figure out how to
> hack
> into that system while a plane is in the air and make it do what they want
> without even having to sneak on board.
> --
> PeteCresswell
Yup... Or jam up the Radio frequency to screw up all airplanes in the
air.....
the Terrorist would love this new feature.....
Why people never think of Psychology to solve the problem?
news:[email protected]...
> Per [email protected]:
>>"Once this system is initiated, no one on board is capable of
>>controlling the flight, making it useless for anyone to threaten
>>violence in order to gain control."
>
> Sounds like the next challenge for the Bad Guys is to figure out how to
> hack
> into that system while a plane is in the air and make it do what they want
> without even having to sneak on board.
> --
> PeteCresswell
Yup... Or jam up the Radio frequency to screw up all airplanes in the
air.....
the Terrorist would love this new feature.....
Why people never think of Psychology to solve the problem?
Mar 4th 2007, 11:02 pm
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Re: Boeing develops Anti Hijack pilot system
On 4 Mar 2007 12:12:36 -0800 '[email protected]'
posted this onto rec.travel.air:
>New autopilot will make another 9/11 impossible
This looks remarkably similar to the remote control technology that
was used on 9/11 by the Bush regime ;-)
posted this onto rec.travel.air:
>New autopilot will make another 9/11 impossible
This looks remarkably similar to the remote control technology that
was used on 9/11 by the Bush regime ;-)
Mar 4th 2007, 11:02 pm
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<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> New autopilot will make another 9/11 impossible
> 03.03.07
>
Please tell us that Microsoft won't be supplying the software.
news:[email protected] oups.com...
> New autopilot will make another 9/11 impossible
> 03.03.07
>
Please tell us that Microsoft won't be supplying the software.
Mar 5th 2007, 12:23 am
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Mar 5th 2007, 12:24 am
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Mar 5th 2007, 12:43 am
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"Richard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> That sound just great. Now they won't even have to hijack a plane. You
> just have to hijack the ground station that is controlling the plane and
> then fly it where ever you want.
No you have to do both actually, and im pretty sure you would probably
require a army to hijack the ground station, it'll probably be just as
secure as a nuclear missle.
news:[email protected]...
> That sound just great. Now they won't even have to hijack a plane. You
> just have to hijack the ground station that is controlling the plane and
> then fly it where ever you want.
No you have to do both actually, and im pretty sure you would probably
require a army to hijack the ground station, it'll probably be just as
secure as a nuclear missle.
Mar 5th 2007, 1:07 am
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Per Mike:
>No you have to do both actually, and im pretty sure you would probably
>require a army to hijack the ground station, it'll probably be just as
>secure as a nuclear missle.
But what about impersonating the ground station?
My bet is that it's based on some sort of encryption.
I don't know diddley about encryption, but historically "strength of encryption"
seems to have been a matter of how many mega or tera-flops would be needed to
crack it.
My guess is that yesterday's "unbreakable" is probably routine defeated on
today's ordinary PCs.
I'd also guess that both Microsoft and IBM were pretty sure their systems were
very, *very* tight.... and we all know what's happened year-after-year to them.
I'll leave it to others to extrapolate from there....
--
PeteCresswell
>No you have to do both actually, and im pretty sure you would probably
>require a army to hijack the ground station, it'll probably be just as
>secure as a nuclear missle.
But what about impersonating the ground station?
My bet is that it's based on some sort of encryption.
I don't know diddley about encryption, but historically "strength of encryption"
seems to have been a matter of how many mega or tera-flops would be needed to
crack it.
My guess is that yesterday's "unbreakable" is probably routine defeated on
today's ordinary PCs.
I'd also guess that both Microsoft and IBM were pretty sure their systems were
very, *very* tight.... and we all know what's happened year-after-year to them.
I'll leave it to others to extrapolate from there....
--
PeteCresswell
Mar 5th 2007, 2:32 am
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[email protected] writes:
> The mechanism is designed to make it impossible to crash the aircraft
> into air or land targets - and enable the plane to be flown by remote
> control from the ground in the event of an emergency.
And prevent the plane from landing safely if something goes wrong. And allow
the plane to be seized by hijackers by remote control.
> Scientists at aircraft giant Boeing are testing the tamper-proof
> autopilot system which uses state-of-the-art computer and satellite
> technology.
There are no tamper-proof systems.
> It will be activated by the pilot flicking a simple switch or by
> pressure sensors fitted to the cockpit door that will respond to any
> excessive force as terrorists try to break into the flight deck.
Or by a terrorist flipping a simple switch or by a software or hardware bug in
the system.
> Once triggered, no one on board will be able to deactivate the system.
So if it decides to fly the aircraft into the side of a mountain, there will
be no recourse.
> Currently, all autopilots are manually switched on and off at the
> discretion of pilots.
As it should be!
> The so-called 'uninterruptible autopilot system' - patented secretly
> by Boeing in the US last week - will connect ground controllers and
> security services with the aircraft using radio waves and global
> satellite positioning systems.
Or it will connect terrorists to the aircraft, when they jam or spoof the
radio waves and satellite signals.
> After it has been activated, the aircraft will be capable of remote
> digital control from the ground, enabling operators to fly it like a
> sophisticated model plane, manoeuvring it vertically and laterally.
Which is actually the foot in the door to elimination of pilots--nothing to do
with terrorism, although that's a good stalking horse to distract unions from
the real goal.
> A threatened airliner could be flown to a secure military base or a
> commercial airport ...
Or a terrorist compound, or into a mountainside.
> Boeing insiders say the new anti-hijack kit could be fitted to
> airliners all over the world, including those in the UK, within the
> next three years.
That would be a big mistake.
Hijacks are far too infrequent to justify this sort of thing, and there are
just too many possibilities for abuse and error in a system that has no
override.
> This will use tiny cameras linked to specialist computers to record
> every twitch, blink, facial expression or suspicious movement made on
> board flights in order to identify potential terrorists.
I think some people have stopped taking their medication.
> A Boeing spokesman said : "We are constantly studying ways we can
> enhance the safety, security and efficiency of the world's airline
> fleet.
Read: We are constantly studying ways to make more money.
> There is a need in the industry for a technique that conclusively
> prevents unauthorised persons gaining access to the controls and
> threatening the safety of passengers.
A door does that very well.
> Once this system is initiated, no one on board is capable of
> controlling the flight, making it useless for anyone to threaten
> violence in order to gain control.
Instead, they can pick up a phone and threaten to direct the aircraft into a
mountain by remote control unless their demands are met. No more need for
suicide bombers--they can kill everyone on board but remain alive themselves.
Sometimes I wonder what a lot of these people have been smoking.
--
Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.
> The mechanism is designed to make it impossible to crash the aircraft
> into air or land targets - and enable the plane to be flown by remote
> control from the ground in the event of an emergency.
And prevent the plane from landing safely if something goes wrong. And allow
the plane to be seized by hijackers by remote control.
> Scientists at aircraft giant Boeing are testing the tamper-proof
> autopilot system which uses state-of-the-art computer and satellite
> technology.
There are no tamper-proof systems.
> It will be activated by the pilot flicking a simple switch or by
> pressure sensors fitted to the cockpit door that will respond to any
> excessive force as terrorists try to break into the flight deck.
Or by a terrorist flipping a simple switch or by a software or hardware bug in
the system.
> Once triggered, no one on board will be able to deactivate the system.
So if it decides to fly the aircraft into the side of a mountain, there will
be no recourse.
> Currently, all autopilots are manually switched on and off at the
> discretion of pilots.
As it should be!
> The so-called 'uninterruptible autopilot system' - patented secretly
> by Boeing in the US last week - will connect ground controllers and
> security services with the aircraft using radio waves and global
> satellite positioning systems.
Or it will connect terrorists to the aircraft, when they jam or spoof the
radio waves and satellite signals.
> After it has been activated, the aircraft will be capable of remote
> digital control from the ground, enabling operators to fly it like a
> sophisticated model plane, manoeuvring it vertically and laterally.
Which is actually the foot in the door to elimination of pilots--nothing to do
with terrorism, although that's a good stalking horse to distract unions from
the real goal.
> A threatened airliner could be flown to a secure military base or a
> commercial airport ...
Or a terrorist compound, or into a mountainside.
> Boeing insiders say the new anti-hijack kit could be fitted to
> airliners all over the world, including those in the UK, within the
> next three years.
That would be a big mistake.
Hijacks are far too infrequent to justify this sort of thing, and there are
just too many possibilities for abuse and error in a system that has no
override.
> This will use tiny cameras linked to specialist computers to record
> every twitch, blink, facial expression or suspicious movement made on
> board flights in order to identify potential terrorists.
I think some people have stopped taking their medication.
> A Boeing spokesman said : "We are constantly studying ways we can
> enhance the safety, security and efficiency of the world's airline
> fleet.
Read: We are constantly studying ways to make more money.
> There is a need in the industry for a technique that conclusively
> prevents unauthorised persons gaining access to the controls and
> threatening the safety of passengers.
A door does that very well.
> Once this system is initiated, no one on board is capable of
> controlling the flight, making it useless for anyone to threaten
> violence in order to gain control.
Instead, they can pick up a phone and threaten to direct the aircraft into a
mountain by remote control unless their demands are met. No more need for
suicide bombers--they can kill everyone on board but remain alive themselves.
Sometimes I wonder what a lot of these people have been smoking.
--
Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.
Mar 5th 2007, 2:33 am
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Mike writes:
> No you have to do both actually, and im pretty sure you would probably
> require a army to hijack the ground station, it'll probably be just as
> secure as a nuclear missle.
GPS signals are extremely easy to spoof or jam, and you don't have to hijack
any stations or aircraft at all.
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> No you have to do both actually, and im pretty sure you would probably
> require a army to hijack the ground station, it'll probably be just as
> secure as a nuclear missle.
GPS signals are extremely easy to spoof or jam, and you don't have to hijack
any stations or aircraft at all.
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Mar 5th 2007, 2:35 am
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Re: Boeing develops Anti Hijack pilot system
(PeteCresswell) writes:
> I don't know diddley about encryption, but historically "strength of encryption"
> seems to have been a matter of how many mega or tera-flops would be needed to
> crack it.
There are indeed systems of encryption that are extraordinarily secure--secure
enough that they cannot be broken with any existing technology.
However, such systems are still vulnerable, because the other details of the
system can still be compromised. The bad guys won't attack the encryption
because it's the strongest part of the system, but they will still attack the
other implementation details, which invariably leave ample opportunity for
compromise.
That's the problem with modern encryption systems: the encryption itself is
effectively unbreakable, but there are always bugs and loopholes in the
implementations, and that's how the systems are compromised in practice.
Nobody can "crack the code" ... but nobody has to.
> My guess is that yesterday's "unbreakable" is probably routine defeated on
> today's ordinary PCs.
Not true. Modern algorithms resist all attempts at compromise. Even DES is
still secure from PC cracking attempts. However, it's no longer the code
itself that is the weak link. See above.
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> I don't know diddley about encryption, but historically "strength of encryption"
> seems to have been a matter of how many mega or tera-flops would be needed to
> crack it.
There are indeed systems of encryption that are extraordinarily secure--secure
enough that they cannot be broken with any existing technology.
However, such systems are still vulnerable, because the other details of the
system can still be compromised. The bad guys won't attack the encryption
because it's the strongest part of the system, but they will still attack the
other implementation details, which invariably leave ample opportunity for
compromise.
That's the problem with modern encryption systems: the encryption itself is
effectively unbreakable, but there are always bugs and loopholes in the
implementations, and that's how the systems are compromised in practice.
Nobody can "crack the code" ... but nobody has to.
> My guess is that yesterday's "unbreakable" is probably routine defeated on
> today's ordinary PCs.
Not true. Modern algorithms resist all attempts at compromise. Even DES is
still secure from PC cracking attempts. However, it's no longer the code
itself that is the weak link. See above.
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Mar 5th 2007, 4:54 am
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Re: Boeing develops Anti Hijack pilot system
Couldn't agree more!!!!!!
Still, we all need oil, just at what price ..................?
"hummingbird" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 4 Mar 2007 12:12:36 -0800 '[email protected]'
> posted this onto rec.travel.air:
>
>>New autopilot will make another 9/11 impossible
>
> This looks remarkably similar to the remote control technology that
> was used on 9/11 by the Bush regime ;-)
Still, we all need oil, just at what price ..................?
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[email protected]...> On 4 Mar 2007 12:12:36 -0800 '[email protected]'
> posted this onto rec.travel.air:
>
>>New autopilot will make another 9/11 impossible
>
> This looks remarkably similar to the remote control technology that
> was used on 9/11 by the Bush regime ;-)