Pimpbot

In part 4. Information about the spouse or parent through whom you gained your conditional residence. For "Family Name" would that be my wifes original last name or her current married last name.

And section 5. Info about your children. Would we include my American step daughter here?

I'm sure these are obvious questions, but I'm a little rusty when it comes to filling out the paper work.

Pimpbot

Also, this is what I'm sending in the packet.

The last two years tax returns
Mortgage paperwork listing both names
Car paperwork with both names
SRP bill in both names
Southwest Gas bill in both names
Bank statements from joint account
Home and car insurance in both names
2 pictures
1 referral from MIL.

Anything I'm missing?

SecretGarden

Hi there,
I am the USC wife of CPR about to send in his I-751 as well. Not sure if we've done this correctly but for part four, we listed my last name as my now married name, NOT my maiden name.

And section five, I posted a thread about this about two weeks ago. Husband has two daughters who are not residing with us but are with their mother in the UK. We listed them, as well as MY three children (his stepchildren) who are US citizens by birth and reside with us here in the US.

Advice from the forum was to list em all, so that's what we've done.

Good luck, we'll be sending ours on October 20th or so, to Nebraska.
~SecretGarden
~and Mr. Pink

Pimpbot

Thanks for the info.

I just noticed that I need to referals and a copy of the 2 year card front and back to be included with the packet.

SecretGarden

Hi,
I think that by "referrals" you mean affidavits from those who can attest to your relationship. If you look at the form carefully, it indicates that these are optional---as in "Examples of such documents are:"

I have seen Mr. Folinsky say that in his opinion, affidavits are the weakest form of evidence and that he typically does not include them. Also note that your evidence of relationship is supposed to encompass all the time between the date of your marriage and the date of the application.

Look for a thread by Karen D. She had quite a comprehensive list of items she sent and was recently approved.

~SG

SecretGarden

Here's the link:

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=369368


~SG

Rete

Why wouldn't she complete it the same way she completed the I-485.

We did. We included all children, his and mine, even though they were adults. Can't hurt to do so.

JEff

Rete,

Agreed - why would it be different from what was already done on the
I-485?

For the same reason, my wife did not list her stepchildren (my
children). She listed only her own natural children, the same as I had
done on my I-130 and I-129f petitions and she had done on her visa
application forms.

Regards, JEff

Rete wrote:
    > Why wouldn't she complete it the same way she completed the I-485.
    > We did. We included all children, his and mine, even though they were
    > adults. Can't hurt to do so.
    > > In part 4. Information about the spouse or parent through whom you
    > > gained your conditional residence. For "Family Name" would that be my
    > > wifes original last name or her current married last name.
    > >
    > > And section 5. Info about your children. Would we include my American
    > > step daughter here?
    > >
    > > I'm sure these are obvious questions, but I'm a little rusty when it
    > > comes to filling out the paper work.

JEff

Rete,

Yes, good point - why not do the same as when adjusting status?

For that same reason, my wife listed only her own children, same as
from the start when I listed only her natural children on my I-130 and
I-129f petitions and she listed only her natural children on her visa
application forms.

Regards, JEff

Rete wrote:
    > Why wouldn't she complete it the same way she completed the I-485.
    > We did. We included all children, his and mine, even though they were
    > adults. Can't hurt to do so.
    > Someone asked:
    > >
    > > In part 4. Information about the spouse or parent through whom you
    > > gained your conditional residence. For "Family Name" would that be my
    > > wifes original last name or her current married last name.
    > >
    > > And section 5. Info about your children. Would we include my American
    > > step daughter here?
    > >
    > > I'm sure these are obvious questions, but I'm a little rusty when it
    > > comes to filling out the paper work.

Folinskyinla

Hi:

It is never too late to correct an error. If you want, put an attachment explaining the difference.

tortoise

i didn't mention my step-daughter on the I-751 as she's not technically mine, she is not entering the country and she doesn't require a visa. but as rete said, it can't hurt to mention them.

JEff

Mr.F,

Thank you for the information. We'll do that at the next opportunity,
which will be coming up in another few months.

Regards, JEff

Folinskyinla wrote:
    > > Rete,
    > >
    > > Agreed - why would it be different from what was already done on the
    > > I-485?
    > >
    > > For the same reason, my wife did not list her stepchildren (my
    > > children). She listed only her own natural children, the same as I
    > > had
    > > done on my I-130 and I-129f petitions and she had done on her visa
    > > application forms.
    > >
    > > Regards, JEff
    > >
    > Hi:
    > It is never too late to correct an error. If you want, put an
    > attachment explaining the difference.
    > --
    > Certified Specialist
    > Immigration & Nat. Law
    > Cal. Bar Board of Legal Specialization
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

SecretGarden

I had the same question as the OP. Since the I-751 is a "joint application" we concluded that he should list ALL of his biological children and I should list ALL my biological children. His biological children are not entering the country or applying to have conditions removed but there is a space to indicate that on the form. Also, at our AOS interview, we were asked for birth certificates of ALL of the kids (none of whom are ours together)---those living in the UK with their mom and mine who live with us in the US.

I have to say, however, that even though it is supposed to be a "joint application" most of the time when the form says "you" or "your" it appears to be referring to the CPR, not the person through whom they gained that status.

Hell, I dunno. We'll send it the way it is and see what happens.
~SecretGarden
~and Mr. Pink

tortoise

i feel like i'm taking a test when i fill those forms out heheh. i keep having to remind myself to breathe!

but yes, if in doubt, i guess it's good to mention the kids. i doubt it's needed (i'm sure i would've got an RFE), but i'll make sure i take all my paperwork - including my step-daughter's birth certificate - to the biometrics meeting on saturday. just incase

JEff

SG,

Reading Mr.F's response to my post I recognize a contradiction in my
thinking. If my wife's natural son is my son (stepson, to be more
precise), and he is, that's why I was able to petition for him, why are
my natural sons and daughters not my wife's children? Unless, perhaps,
she has ulterior motives with respect to immigration and the
relationship is not bonafide and so she does not think of my children
as her children.

There are no qualifiers on the immigration forms with respect to which
children, or what type of children, are to be listed. The forms simply
say, "all children". I guess if her children are mine, mine are
likewise hers, and so should be listed.

Regards, JEff

SecretGarden wrote:
    > > i didn't mention my step-daughter on the I-751 as she's not
    > > technically mine, she is not entering the country and she doesn't
    > > require a visa. but as rete said, it can't hurt to mention them.
    > I had the same question as the OP. Since the I-751 is a "joint
    > application" we concluded that he should list ALL of his biological
    > children and I should list ALL my biological children. His biological
    > children are not entering the country or applying to have conditions
    > removed but there is a space to indicate that on the form. Also, at our
    > AOS interview, we were asked for birth certificates of ALL of the kids
    > (none of whom are ours together)---those living in the UK with their mom
    > and mine who live with us in the US.
    > I have to say, however, that even though it is supposed to be a "joint
    > application" most of the time when the form says "you" or "your" it
    > appears to be referring to the CPR, not the person through whom they
    > gained that status.
    > Hell, I dunno. We'll send it the way it is and see what happens. :)
    > ~SecretGarden
    > ~and Mr. Pink