hi everyone,

I'm new to the Canada forums so forgive me if these questions have come up before. i migrated to Perth, WA last year and its just not working out for me. as i don't want to move back to the u.k i thought about giving Canada a go.

if anyone can help me with the following questions i would be most grateful.

1. is the application process the same for moving to Canada the same as moving to Australia? i.e medical checks, police checks etc

2. on the mock application for Canada i put down basic for my knowledge of french. (i studied it for 2 years back in high school) do i have to take a test so they determine just how good my french is?

3. have many of you guys used agents and who is the cheapest.

4 what is the current time applications are getting processed? (it only took about 9 months to get my Australian pr)

5. western Australia is booming at the moment. is Canada currently booming in the mine/metal industry as i am a welder??

i thank you if anyone can answer these questions.

Steve

Yes, the whole enchilada

You need to take TEF test to prove proficiency in French

Didn't you learn yet in your life that we all are too poor to buy cheap? That cheap is exactly what it says - cheap? If you want to save money then DIY as you will for sure do better than the cheap agent you hire, or at least the same.

Anywhere from 12 to 30+ months if you are Brit and will apply through Sydney. Why such difference? All depends from many factors, including quality and conclusiveness of application package, how well all claims are documented and all possible doubts and follow-up questions (case specific) are addressed, how much is left for interpretation, verification and need for additional info or evidence and if interview is required or waived.

The other side only looks greener from where you stand - didn't you learn it yet after moving from UK? What makes you think that it will work for you in Canada? It is not Australia what is the problem - it is most likely you who is the problem. And during assessment of your Canadian application officer will have to determine if you have good chance to succeed in Canada - if you failed in Australia or are giving up within a year without trying harder then what you think officer's determination will be? Immigration is not about jobs - it is all about what place you want to call home and why. Once you know which country you want to call home then you'll manage to succeed sooner or later without waiting for handouts or jobs to come to you. You will make it your home.

No offence intended, just a bit of reality so you can try to think it over.

I strongly suggest finding a job in Canada first and come here with work permit - it is fast and will give you opportunity to see if it is a place you want to call home and if not then nothing lost.

Hi Steve,
I was going to say the same things as Andrew about your reasons for giving up on Australian so quickly. Perth is a great place but it not for everybody. Have you given any thought to moving elsewhere in Australia, or within WA even?

The anecdotal evidence is that people from the UK find it a lot harder to get jobs in Canada compared to Australia.

Advice to OP - forget Canada for the while, focus on making things work in Australia. Move interstate if that's the solution.

Canada is unlikely to be an 'easier' solution than Australia.

I've heard of cases where people like you have gone to Australia, then moved to Canada, and then wanted to go back to Australia. But they found that their Australian PR had expired and they either couldn't get it back at all, or found it very difficult to do so as requirements had changed.

A few years down the line, when you've got your Australian citizenship you can reconsider things.

Jeremy

Here Here!

Steve,

I think you have been given some good advice above. You have only been in Australia for nine months, so it is not unusual to hate it. Most immigrants go through a honeymoon period for the first six months, or so, then go through a very negative phase for another six months, or so, and then come out with a fairly realistic view of life in Australia. You need to wait for that period. The fact that you can obtain citizenship after two years, as pointed out above, underscores this.

Australia is not an easy place to settle into. People tend to hang out with their mates from school, which makes it hard to break in socially. A number of immigrants I know have overcome this by hanging out with other immigrants, and the POHMmies (British for you non-Australians) are particularly good at that. If you are in Perth, given the large British population, I would think you would be able to find kindred spirits quite easily.

I have worked both in Australia and overseas, and I recognize that WORK in Australia is difficult. Australia is a great place to live, but not a great place to work. There is no real work ethic and no real drive to get things precisely right. Many decisions are driven by extraneous issues, and old school ties play a big role. Even in the top professions someone who is an absolute incompetent can succeed on the basis of the right connections. If this is part of what is getting you down, then you need to understand that almost every Australian who has worked for an extended period overseas agrees with you, but most came back to Australia for family and lifestyle reasons. I don't mean to be negative, just trying to give you a sense of reality.

We are heading for Canada, in part, because it is so much LIKE Australia. Other Australians who have immigrated seem to agree on this. If I were you, I would work hard to make things work in Australia before trying to go to Canada, and would at least wait until you can get citizenship (because then you can come BACK . . . which allows you to hedge your bets a bit) before even starting the process. You need to give it a few years. Hopefully you will come 'round in that period.

All the best,

Hi,

Myself and family immigrated to Australia (Adelaide) and came back after two years.Two years later we immigrated to Canada and were very dissapointed and returned after only six months.Back in the Uk now.
Out of all three Australia wins by far if you can put up with the distance.
Canada is too much work and no vacation.
Don't think that the grass is always greener !

Alternativelty Canada wins if you can put up with the vacation...

I dont like the heat, so Oz is too hot...and has too many australians

and very poor quality beer...

and impossible accent

I like Fosters alot. We don`t have it here in Canada.

I recall a heated discussion in this forum a few weeks ago: an Indian poster was withdrawing his application to Canada, citing long delays and his perception of Australia as a better destination for immigrants.

I think the thing to remember is that there is no 'completely good' or 'completely bad' country on the planet, and criteria considered 'favourable' for one person may be 'negative' for another.

Totally agree.Nowhere is perfect it's down to the individual.You can only decide for yourself.

Hi there,

Find out some alternative place in Australia.But if still not interested. Try to have a study permit for Canada and get student visa and study in Canada for one year and thereafter you can seek for permanent residence. But you can rightaway after your landing as a student can be permitted to work under new rules.

Best of luck.

Bhagwan Ahuja
M.A.LLB LLM
Canadian Immigration Consultant
Member in good standing of the
Canadian Society of Immigration Consultant
Membership# M052736
Email:[email protected]

I would have to disagree with you. There are some excellent beer here, you just have to stay away from the well marketed crap such as Fosters and VB.