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Old Dec 15th 2004, 1:31 am
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My son is a US citizen who married a Nigerian woman. The I130 just got
approved. They are going to the consulate tomorrow in Lagos, Nigeria to
arrange an interview and find out about approved doctors for the health
exam. Just what can they expect to experience during the remainder of the
process? What happens after final approval and she moves here, prayerfully
before Christmas!

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Old Dec 15th 2004, 10:56 pm
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    > My son is a US citizen who married a Nigerian woman. The I130 just got
    > approved. They are going to the consulate tomorrow in Lagos, Nigeria to
    > arrange an interview and find out about approved doctors for the health
    > exam. Just what can they expect to experience during the remainder of the
    > process? What happens after final approval and she moves here,
prayerfully
    > before Christmas!

She will not be able to move to the U.S. for several months. The I-130
approval is an intermediate step in the process.

USCIS will send the approved I-130 petition to the National Visa Center in
New Hampshire. See
http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigra...s_family4.html.

When NVC has received the petition, created a case record and assigned a
case number, it will send an Affidavit of Support (I-864 form) processing
fee bill to the petitioner (your son) and an Agent of Choice and Address
(DS-3032) form to the applicant (your daughter-in-law). If your son and his
wife are doing this on their own, the wife is usually designated as the
agent.

When the I-864 processing fee has been paid, NVC will send the I-864 forms
and instructions to the petitioner. When NVC has received the form DS-3032
from the applicant, NVC will mail the Immigrant Visa (IV) fee bill to the
agent. When the IV fee bill is paid, NVC will send the Instruction Packet
of forms and information to the agent.

See http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigra...s_family5.html. When the
applicant has received the Instruction Packet, she can send all the required
documents to NVC.

When NVC has received all required documents, it can usually schedule an
interview appointment within about 2 to 3 months. About one month before
the interview, the applicant will receive an appointment letter containing
the date and time of her visa interview along with instructions for
obtaining a medical examination.

At the interview, if all goes well, the applicant receives an immigrant
visa, and she may then travel to the U.S., enter, and become a permanent
resident upon entry.
 
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Originally Posted by Mike Dobony
My son is a US citizen who married a Nigerian woman. The I130 just got
approved. They are going to the consulate tomorrow in Lagos, Nigeria to
arrange an interview and find out about approved doctors for the health
exam. Just what can they expect to experience during the remainder of the
process? What happens after final approval and she moves here, prayerfully
before Christmas!
If the I-130 was filed at a Service Center in the US: What Sylvia said.

If the I-130 was filed in Lagos, the timeline may be shorter.
I only bring this up because you say they are overseas together.
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    > > My son is a US citizen who married a Nigerian woman. The I130 just
    > > got
    > > approved. They are going to the consulate tomorrow in Lagos, Nigeria
    > > to
    > > arrange an interview and find out about approved doctors for the
    > > health
    > > exam. Just what can they expect to experience during the remainder of
    > > the
    > > process? What happens after final approval and she moves here,
    > > prayerfully
    > > before Christmas!
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    > If the I-130 was filed at a Service Center in the US: What Sylvia said.
    > If the I-130 was filed in Lagos, the timeline may be shorter.
    > I only bring this up because you say they are overseas together.

Not possible any more in Nigeria. They filed about 8 months after this
option was eliminated there.

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Old Dec 17th 2004, 12:11 am
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"Sylvia Ottemoeller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > "Mike Dobony" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > My son is a US citizen who married a Nigerian woman. The I130 just got
    > > approved. They are going to the consulate tomorrow in Lagos, Nigeria to
    > > arrange an interview and find out about approved doctors for the health
    > > exam. Just what can they expect to experience during the remainder of
the
    > > process? What happens after final approval and she moves here,
    > prayerfully
    > > before Christmas!
    > She will not be able to move to the U.S. for several months. The I-130
    > approval is an intermediate step in the process.
    > USCIS will send the approved I-130 petition to the National Visa Center in
    > New Hampshire. See
    > http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigra...s_family4.html.
    > When NVC has received the petition, created a case record and assigned a
    > case number, it will send an Affidavit of Support (I-864 form) processing
    > fee bill to the petitioner (your son) and an Agent of Choice and Address
    > (DS-3032) form to the applicant (your daughter-in-law). If your son and
his
    > wife are doing this on their own, the wife is usually designated as the
    > agent.
    > When the I-864 processing fee has been paid, NVC will send the I-864 forms
    > and instructions to the petitioner. When NVC has received the form
DS-3032
    > from the applicant, NVC will mail the Immigrant Visa (IV) fee bill to the
    > agent. When the IV fee bill is paid, NVC will send the Instruction Packet
    > of forms and information to the agent.
    > See http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigra...s_family5.html. When the
    > applicant has received the Instruction Packet, she can send all the
required
    > documents to NVC.
    > When NVC has received all required documents, it can usually schedule an
    > interview appointment within about 2 to 3 months. About one month before
    > the interview, the applicant will receive an appointment letter containing
    > the date and time of her visa interview along with instructions for
    > obtaining a medical examination.
    > At the interview, if all goes well, the applicant receives an immigrant
    > visa, and she may then travel to the U.S., enter, and become a permanent
    > resident upon entry.
 
Old Dec 17th 2004, 12:15 am
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"Sylvia Ottemoeller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > "Mike Dobony" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > My son is a US citizen who married a Nigerian woman. The I130 just got
    > > approved. They are going to the consulate tomorrow in Lagos, Nigeria to
    > > arrange an interview and find out about approved doctors for the health
    > > exam. Just what can they expect to experience during the remainder of
the
    > > process? What happens after final approval and she moves here,
    > prayerfully
    > > before Christmas!
    > She will not be able to move to the U.S. for several months. The I-130
    > approval is an intermediate step in the process.
    > USCIS will send the approved I-130 petition to the National Visa Center in
    > New Hampshire. See
    > http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigra...s_family4.html.
    > When NVC has received the petition, created a case record and assigned a
    > case number, it will send an Affidavit of Support (I-864 form) processing
    > fee bill to the petitioner (your son) and an Agent of Choice and Address
    > (DS-3032) form to the applicant (your daughter-in-law). If your son and
his
    > wife are doing this on their own, the wife is usually designated as the
    > agent.
    > When the I-864 processing fee has been paid, NVC will send the I-864 forms
    > and instructions to the petitioner. When NVC has received the form
DS-3032
    > from the applicant, NVC will mail the Immigrant Visa (IV) fee bill to the
    > agent. When the IV fee bill is paid, NVC will send the Instruction Packet
    > of forms and information to the agent.
    > See http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigra...s_family5.html. When the
    > applicant has received the Instruction Packet, she can send all the
required
    > documents to NVC.
    > When NVC has received all required documents, it can usually schedule an
    > interview appointment within about 2 to 3 months. About one month before
    > the interview, the applicant will receive an appointment letter containing
    > the date and time of her visa interview along with instructions for
    > obtaining a medical examination.

OUCH!!!!! This could take another 6 months since it took 1.5 months last
time to receive a receipt in Nigeria!!!!! I only have power of attorney
until February. This is going to be a big problem! Before leaving USCIS
said the total process was going to be about 6 months total. They filed the
I130 late May. He should have secured an attorney in the first place and
filed for a K1 fiance visa.

Mike D.

    > At the interview, if all goes well, the applicant receives an immigrant
    > visa, and she may then travel to the U.S., enter, and become a permanent
    > resident upon entry.
 
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[QUOTE=Mike Dobony:
OUCH!!!!! This could take another 6 months since it took 1.5 months last
time to receive a receipt in Nigeria!!!!! I only have power of attorney
until February. This is going to be a big problem! Before leaving USCIS
said the total process was going to be about 6 months total. They filed the
I130 late May. He should have secured an attorney in the first place and
filed for a K1 fiance visa.

Mike D. /QUOTE]

What does the power of attorney have to do with this?

What receipt did they get in Nigeria already (that took 1/5 months)?

What do you mean by 'before leaving USCIS said...' Where did they file the I-130?

You said above that he could not file the I-130 in Nigeria; so he is not resident there, just visiting?
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Old Dec 17th 2004, 10:40 am
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"meauxna" <member1851@british_expats.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected] m...
    > > "Sylvia Ottemoeller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > "Mike Dobony" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > My son is a US citizen who married a Nigerian woman. The I130
    > > > > just got
    > > > > approved. They are going to the consulate tomorrow in Lagos,
    > > > > Nigeria to
    > > > > arrange an interview and find out about approved doctors for the
    > > > > health
    > > > > exam. Just what can they expect to experience during the
    > > > > remainder of
    > > the
    > > > > process? What happens after final approval and she moves here,
    > > > prayerfully
    > > > > before Christmas!
    > > > She will not be able to move to the U.S. for several months. The
    > > > I-130
    > > > approval is an intermediate step in the process.
    > > > USCIS will send the approved I-130 petition to the National Visa
    > > > Center in
    > > > New Hampshire. See
    > > > http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigra...s_family4.html.
    > > > When NVC has received the petition, created a case record and
    > > > assigned a
    > > > case number, it will send an Affidavit of Support (I-864 form)
    > > > processing
    > > > fee bill to the petitioner (your son) and an Agent of Choice and
    > > > Address
    > > > (DS-3032) form to the applicant (your daughter-in-law). If your
    > > > son and
    > > his
    > > > wife are doing this on their own, the wife is usually designated as
    > > > the
    > > > agent.
    > > > When the I-864 processing fee has been paid, NVC will send the I-864
    > > > forms
    > > > and instructions to the petitioner. When NVC has received the form
    > > DS-3032
    > > > from the applicant, NVC will mail the Immigrant Visa (IV) fee bill
    > > > to the
    > > > agent. When the IV fee bill is paid, NVC will send the Instruction
    > > > Packet
    > > > of forms and information to the agent.
    > > > See http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigra...s_family5.html.
    > > > When the
    > > > applicant has received the Instruction Packet, she can send all the
    > > required
    > > > documents to NVC.
    > > > When NVC has received all required documents, it can usually
    > > > schedule an
    > > > interview appointment within about 2 to 3 months. About one month
    > > > before
    > > > the interview, the applicant will receive an appointment letter
    > > > containing
    > > > the date and time of her visa interview along with instructions for
    > > > obtaining a medical examination.
    > >
    > > OUCH!!!!! This could take another 6 months since it took 1.5 months
    > > last
    > > time to receive a receipt in Nigeria!!!!! I only have power of
    > > attorney
    > > until February. This is going to be a big problem! Before leaving
    > > USCIS
    > > said the total process was going to be about 6 months total. They
    > > filed the
    > > I130 late May. He should have secured an attorney in the first place
    > > and
    > > filed for a K1 fiance visa.
    > >
    > > Mike D.
    > >
    > > > At the interview, if all goes well, the applicant receives an
    > > > immigrant
    > > > visa, and she may then travel to the U.S., enter, and become a
    > > > permanent
    > > > resident upon entry.
[q1]> [QUOTE=Mike Dobony:[/q1]
    > OUCH!!!!! This could take another 6 months since it took 1.5 months
    > last
    > time to receive a receipt in Nigeria!!!!! I only have power of attorney
    > until February. This is going to be a big problem! Before leaving
    > USCIS
    > said the total process was going to be about 6 months total. They filed
    > the
    > I130 late May. He should have secured an attorney in the first place
    > and
    > filed for a K1 fiance visa.
    > Mike D. /QUOTE]
    > What does the power of attorney have to do with this?

I am taking care of his financial affairs while he is out of the country.

    > What receipt did they get in Nigeria already (that took 1/5 months)?

The I129F receipt.

    > What do you mean by 'before leaving USCIS said...' Where did they file
    > the I-130?

My son asked USCIS about the process times for the various visas. He had to
file through Nebraska. Of course it didn't help that they used only 2/3 of
the address and about 1/3 was incorrect. The only way to find out if they
have the correct address is to see what happens with the next mailing. We
corrected and changed the address and hopefully they got it correct this
time.

    > You said above that he could not file the I-130 in Nigeria; so he is not
    > resident there, just visiting?

He is on a temporary visa there, just visiting until the she receives final
approval.

Mike D.

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Sounds like maybe they're doing a K-3, if they've also filed the I-129F.

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    > Sounds like maybe they're doing a K-3, if they've also filed the I-129F.

When they applied for that it was a 60-90 day wait. However, they stopped
processing those for a while and started processing the I130's. It was the
I130 that moved to CA for processing and back to Nebraska for approval. It
is now at the NVC in New Hamshire, but now need to contact them to pay the
fees to send the forms through UPS overnight. Any idea how to contact them
without having to spend a half hour with the "for this call here, for that
call there" garbage?

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[QUOTE=Mike Dobony
When they applied for that it was a 60-90 day wait. However, they stopped
processing those for a while and started processing the I130's. It was the
I130 that moved to CA for processing and back to Nebraska for approval. It
is now at the NVC in New Hamshire, but now need to contact them to pay the
fees to send the forms through UPS overnight. Any idea how to contact them
without having to spend a half hour with the "for this call here, for that
call there" garbage?
/QUOTE]

Mike, I recommend that you go over to the visajourney.com forums and look at some NVC timelines there. They will have the best way for you to reach someone with an answer. However, most everyone there is experiencing about 4-6 months to get through NVC.
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    > > > > approval.
    > > > >
    > > > > Mike D.
    > > > >
    > > > > > --
    > > > > > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
    > > > Sounds like maybe they're doing a K-3, if they've also filed the
    > > > I-129F.
    > >
    > > When they applied for that it was a 60-90 day wait. However, they
    > > stopped
    > > processing those for a while and started processing the I130's. It
    > > was the
    > > I130 that moved to CA for processing and back to Nebraska for
    > > approval. It
    > > is now at the NVC in New Hamshire, but now need to contact them to pay
    > > the
    > > fees to send the forms through UPS overnight. Any idea how to contact
    > > them
    > > without having to spend a half hour with the "for this call here, for
    > > that
    > > call there" garbage?
    > >
    > > > Rene
    > > > --
    > > > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
[q1]> [QUOTE=Mike Dobony[/q1]
    > When they applied for that it was a 60-90 day wait. However, they
    > stopped
    > processing those for a while and started processing the I130's. It was
    > the
    > I130 that moved to CA for processing and back to Nebraska for approval.
    > It
    > is now at the NVC in New Hamshire, but now need to contact them to pay
    > the
    > fees to send the forms through UPS overnight. Any idea how to contact
    > them
    > without having to spend a half hour with the "for this call here, for
    > that
    > call there" garbage?
    > /QUOTE]
    > Mike, I recommend that you go over to the visajourney.com forums and
    > look at some NVC timelines there. They will have the best way for you to
    > reach someone with an answer. However, most everyone there is
    > experiencing about 4-6 months to get through NVC.

Is that how long before an interview or is there still a wait after that?
If it is that long then he may end up coming home, getting healthy again,
working for a while, and then returning for the interview. Without him
there for the interview he might as well divorce her as she will not get the
approval without him there. The consulate in Nigeria is well known for
rejecting the application if the spouse is not there. After the divorce
then he can file for a much quicker fiance visa.

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Originally Posted by Mike Dobony
Is that how long before an interview or is there still a wait after that?
If it is that long then he may end up coming home, getting healthy again,
working for a while, and then returning for the interview. Without him
there for the interview he might as well divorce her as she will not get the
approval without him there. The consulate in Nigeria is well known for
rejecting the application if the spouse is not there. After the divorce
then he can file for a much quicker fiance visa.
Once the NVC is done, they forward the petition to the Consulate on their own schedule. Then you wait for the Consular scheduling time.

I am familiar with Nigeria's Consular reputation, but your comment about divorce and fiance don't make much sense. Fiances fare as well as spouses.
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    > > "meauxna" <member1851@british_expats.com> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected] m...
    > > > > "Noorah101" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > > news:[email protected] m...
    > > > > > snip<
    > > > > > > approval.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > Mike D.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > --
    > > > > > > > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
    > > > > > Sounds like maybe they're doing a K-3, if they've also filed the
    > > > > > I-129F.
    > > > >
    > > > > When they applied for that it was a 60-90 day wait. However, they
    > > > > stopped
    > > > > processing those for a while and started processing the I130's.
    > > > > It
    > > > > was the
    > > > > I130 that moved to CA for processing and back to Nebraska for
    > > > > approval. It
    > > > > is now at the NVC in New Hamshire, but now need to contact them to
    > > > > pay
    > > > > the
    > > > > fees to send the forms through UPS overnight. Any idea how to
    > > > > contact
    > > > > them
    > > > > without having to spend a half hour with the "for this call here,
    > > > > for
    > > > > that
    > > > > call there" garbage?
    > > > >
    > > > > > Rene
    > > > > > --
    > > > > > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
[q3]> > > [QUOTE=Mike Dobony[/q3]
    > > > When they applied for that it was a 60-90 day wait. However, they
    > > > stopped
    > > > processing those for a while and started processing the I130's. It
    > > > was
    > > > the
    > > > I130 that moved to CA for processing and back to Nebraska for
    > > > approval.
    > > > It
    > > > is now at the NVC in New Hamshire, but now need to contact them to
    > > > pay
    > > > the
    > > > fees to send the forms through UPS overnight. Any idea how to
    > > > contact
    > > > them
    > > > without having to spend a half hour with the "for this call here,
    > > > for
    > > > that
    > > > call there" garbage?
    > > > /QUOTE]
    > > > Mike, I recommend that you go over to the visajourney.com forums and
    > > > look at some NVC timelines there. They will have the best way for
    > > > you to
    > > > reach someone with an answer. However, most everyone there is
    > > > experiencing about 4-6 months to get through NVC.
    > >
    > > Is that how long before an interview or is there still a wait after
    > > that?
    > > If it is that long then he may end up coming home, getting healthy
    > > again,
    > > working for a while, and then returning for the interview. Without
    > > him
    > > there for the interview he might as well divorce her as she will not
    > > get the
    > > approval without him there. The consulate in Nigeria is well known
    > > for
    > > rejecting the application if the spouse is not there. After the
    > > divorce
    > > then he can file for a much quicker fiance visa.
    > >
    > > > --
    > > > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
    > Once the NVC is done, they forward the petition to the Consulate on
    > their own schedule. Then you wait for the Consular scheduling time.
    > I am familiar with Nigeria's Consular reputation, but your comment
    > about divorce and fiance don't make much sense. Fiances fare as well
    > as spouses.

But apearantly MUCH faster! If the packet is not at the consulate before
Friday he is probably going to come home to recover and try to find a job
that will pay enough to finance this extra travel. He is tired of the
string of false promises given by all involved. Before starting the process
he was told by USCIS that they would both be home in 60 - 90 days. NOT!!!!!
He went to the consulate and had to stand outside the entire day and didn't
get in at all!!! So much for his rights as a citizen. All he got was a
severe sunburn. He was advised to file for the K3/I129F and was told AGAIN
60-90 days. This was registered on July 7. It is still FAR from even being
started! He was told that once Nebraska was finished with the case it would
only be another 14 day sor so. NOT!!!!!!! If they are LUCKY they will be
able to get the packet of forms by this Friday and then they will STILL have
to wait the promised (but not expected) 2-4 months before teh consulate
decides to take up the case. With the previous experience with the Lagos
consulate, they will not belive the timeframe until they get an interview
appointment set. They promise that the visa will be issued the day after
the interview. We will believe it when we see it! American citizens have
NO rights at that consulate! This WHOLE process punishes US citizens! He
has had to endure almost constant bouts with diarrea (yes, they are boiling
the drinking water and the wash water). He doesn't trust the livestock at
the market since they are feeding near the open sewers. His food often has
ants in it. He is 5'10" tall and is now under 100 lbs. When they were
staying with her relatives at Port Harcourt it was unsafe for him to be out
of the concrete, razor-wire topped walls of the compound and they had riots
going on outside. He has lost his job because he has been gone longer than
his leave of absence allowed, based on the info from USCIS timeframe. All
this time her father has the right to annul the marriage, a more likely
situation if he leaves. Needless to say, we are NOT impressed with the
abuse that we have all endured by the ceasless false information we have
been receiving from USCIS.

    > --
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[QUOTE=Mike Dobony Needless to say, we are NOT impressed with the
abuse that we have all endured by the ceasless false information we have
been receiving from USCIS.
/QUOTE]

Mike, I don't know what more to tell you other than to recommend that you seek a legal consultation. I know it's nonsensical, but research ahead of time would've warned you that any dates given by USCIS staff are fiction, including the ones printed on receipts. They are never going to uphold those timelines, and they never were. I'm sorry it's messed up your planning, but I personally think it is a foolish move to play around with divorce and re-filing.

I've said before to you: visajourney is one place to learn about the NVC procedures from others going through it right now, but there are not may African filers there. There are several Naija boards around; that would be another way to get first-hand information. For example, I have never been to Africa, period, but am aware that USCs have a hard time getting inside the Embassy. It sounds as if your son has compromised his ability to help; maybe it is time to get a professional hand.
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