a_f_d

... and a special award to wookiebt - it's not often that someone gets Bipat and me to agree on something <g>

AndyD 8-)₹

Bipat

Well done for finding that, I have been searching all afternoon at the same time as a half-hour + phonecall to the helpline to get my Kindle to work.

(I frequently agree with you, don't always post it.)

wookiebt

OK sir, but there is no "if payment is not involved, do not continue with the form" clause?

Also, how many visitors to Goa would choose to live in Bhopal and commute 800 miles each day to the beach?

Scraping the barrel for justification comes to mind?

wookiebt

The scruffy scanned link quoted, starts by saying.........

"If anyone knows of a foreigner without correct documentation etc "

(can't copy and paste the exact wording as the messy link doesn't allow it)

Have no idea as to the relevance of this gem, as thought we were talking about people with "correct documentation"............ ie, a valid visa?

Seems that you have agreed on being wrong maybe?


Not just trying to be argumentative........... but over the years it seems that the evidence for "not completing a C form" is outweighed by simply doing it and keeping a paperwork-happy nation................. happy?

Even those posting on here saying no need to do it, without qualification, then qualify the advice by saying it could lead to problems with the police!!

Bipat

Goa is an Indian State the 'C' Form used in Bhopal is the same wording as the 'C' Form used in Goa. I presume Andy used it as an example.
http://www.goatourism.gov.in/images/uploads/c_form.pdf

People do go to other parts of India and for reasons other than a beach!!

Correct Documentation refers to a valid visa in the sense of not overstaying etc.
The two links are quite clear; the 1971 ruling that all householders should report the presence of a foreigner visiting their house was repealed.
They are still obliged to report a foreigner visiting who is over staying or other illegality.
(Although I must say We have never been asked to show our visas to relatives or friends when we have stayed with them, they all have trusted us.

We have tried to explain so perhaps we can leave it there.

As has been said above, the law does not specifically mention foreign house owners so perhaps British house owners in Goa and local police are making their own ad hoc law. I don't know, our place is outside Goa. Andy perhaps would know better.

wookiebt

Afd's link...........

http://getup4change.org/rti/wp-conte...gners20011.pdf

makes no reference to repeal of anything?

Your link,

http://articles.timesofindia.indiati...s-indian-hosts

whilst referring to some sort of "change of mind", in no way links in to the act of 1939, 1992, or C forms, so where is the relevance?

Why do I persist?

Basically, because advice is being given to ignore C form rules with no substantive evidence, which could lead to problems with the authorities for members of this forum.

I have presented references as to why it should be conformed with based on Indian Government dictates, but I see no contrary evidence.

Why the resistance to complying with a simple system that allows a (paranoid) nation to have some idea where visiting foreigners might be residing?

Bipat

A_F_D's link -- see 3) The last Line.

My link was referring to the 1971 Act making it compulsory for all private householders to report the presence of foreigners visiting their house. It was repealed . As above.

It is relevant to the original poster who was asking whether she had to fill in a 'C' Form for non-paying family/ friends staying at her house. The answer was NO. The above links found after searching confirm this.
I think after all this discussion she must be reassured

Other posters introduced the subject of Foreign house owners who volunteer to fill in the 'C' Form which is intended for landlords running hotels/guesthouses etc. (the words shown in the 1992 Act). The wording on the Form indicate this.

If you and others want to fill in the Form fine!! My posts have always referred to the original poster's question regarding family visitors who are not paying her rent.

a_f_d

3. The Foreigners (Report to Police Order, 1971 is hereby repealed

... and at the bottom the scruffy link is revealed to be:
PUBLISHED IN THE GAZETTE OF INDIA EXTRAORDINARY. PT II DATED 7TH AUGUST 2001


This Correspondence is now terminated.

babu1

I know of several persons of "niz Goenkar origin" who are having Portugese passports and are owning property in Goa/India/ Europe/USA/ Canada and running business worldwide and visiting Goa for "uncertain periods of time" and are also on the electoral roll and are in some cases elected representatives holding official office in Goa.

Do they fill in a "C" Form during their prolonged stay while living/visiting for an uncertain period their home/family residence in Goa while on a foreign passport and a national of a foreign country? What visa do these foreign nationals travel to India on and do they have to register at the FRO within 14 days and obtain stamped approval at the same offices whenever they leave India?

Are these foreigners eligible for Permits Of Residence?

wookiebt

Love it Babu............. but hadn't you noticed Afd has closed the discussion?

leavinggoa

OCI?

babu1

Okay, but OCI does not confer political rights in India or the right to hold public office.

a_f_d

It's a bit complicated!

AndyD 8-)₹

poipleshadow

Try this : C Forms for Hotels/Guest Houses in Goa