Dual national entering US on UK passport
Dec 28th 2007, 1:38 am
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Dual national entering US on UK passport
I have dual nationality - US and UK - but managed to lose my US passport last year, and just never got around to replacing is, as I always travel with my UK one. Have decided last minute to head to NY for new year, and realise that I am not supposed to enter the US on my non-US passport if I am citizen. Has anyone done this before, and will it even be possible, once they find out I am a US citizen trying to enter as a foreigner??
Dec 28th 2007, 3:38 am
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Re: Dual national entering US on UK passport
I have dual nationality - US and UK - but managed to lose my US passport last year, and just never got around to replacing is, as I always travel with my UK one. Have decided last minute to head to NY for new year, and realise that I am not supposed to enter the US on my non-US passport if I am citizen. Has anyone done this before, and will it even be possible, once they find out I am a US citizen trying to enter as a foreigner??
Seriously.
(PS: Did you not report the loss of your passport?)
Dec 28th 2007, 8:35 am
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Re: Dual national entering US on UK passport
Head to the US Embassy in London before you go. They can produce you a US passport immediately. The ones they produce at such short notice have limited pages and validity, but will work just fine for this trip and a few future ones. Say you *just* lost it otherwise they might be a little irritated you didn't try to sort it out earlier.
http://london.usembassy.gov/cons_new...ts/urgent.html
My US wife had her passport stolen, and the US Embassy were going to produce one of these quick passport since we were flying to the US in just a few days. That was until the individual that stole it (it was in my laptop bag, so I lost my laptop and my passport too) clearly felt a little bad about the whole thing. It was actually sent to the US Embassy in London and they were able to actually hand it back to my wife!
No luck with my passport and I had to get a new one, but you can't win them all!
http://london.usembassy.gov/cons_new...ts/urgent.html
My US wife had her passport stolen, and the US Embassy were going to produce one of these quick passport since we were flying to the US in just a few days. That was until the individual that stole it (it was in my laptop bag, so I lost my laptop and my passport too) clearly felt a little bad about the whole thing. It was actually sent to the US Embassy in London and they were able to actually hand it back to my wife!
No luck with my passport and I had to get a new one, but you can't win them all!
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Dec 28th 2007, 1:29 pm
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Re: Dual national entering US on UK passport
There is a requirement for US citizens to use a US passport to enter the country, but it's not very clear what happens if one doesn't. According to http://www.richw.org/dualcit/law.html#Passport the consequences are not very serious:
"A US citizen who attempts to enter the US without a US passport, where one is required, may, in theory, be subject to an administrative "waiver fee" (basically a fine with a fancy name). Previously, this fee amounted to $100 or more; at the present time, it appears that no fee is charged [22 CFR § 22.1, item 6], though a fee could in theory be reinstated at any time."
"A US citizen who attempts to enter the US without a US passport, where one is required, may, in theory, be subject to an administrative "waiver fee" (basically a fine with a fancy name). Previously, this fee amounted to $100 or more; at the present time, it appears that no fee is charged [22 CFR § 22.1, item 6], though a fee could in theory be reinstated at any time."
Dec 28th 2007, 1:58 pm
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Re: Dual national entering US on UK passport
Head to the US Embassy in London before you go. They can produce you a US passport immediately. The ones they produce at such short notice have limited pages and validity, but will work just fine for this trip and a few future ones. Say you *just* lost it otherwise they might be a little irritated you didn't try to sort it out earlier.
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Dec 28th 2007, 2:01 pm
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Re: Dual national entering US on UK passport
There is a requirement for US citizens to use a US passport to enter the country, but it's not very clear what happens if one doesn't. According to http://www.richw.org/dualcit/law.html#Passport the consequences are not very serious:
"A US citizen who attempts to enter the US without a US passport, where one is required, may, in theory, be subject to an administrative "waiver fee" (basically a fine with a fancy name). Previously, this fee amounted to $100 or more; at the present time, it appears that no fee is charged [22 CFR § 22.1, item 6], though a fee could in theory be reinstated at any time."
"A US citizen who attempts to enter the US without a US passport, where one is required, may, in theory, be subject to an administrative "waiver fee" (basically a fine with a fancy name). Previously, this fee amounted to $100 or more; at the present time, it appears that no fee is charged [22 CFR § 22.1, item 6], though a fee could in theory be reinstated at any time."
Dec 28th 2007, 3:41 pm
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Re: Dual national entering US on UK passport
I didn't say "tell the US officials you lost it on the 23rd Dec at 2:12PM in a freak yachting accident".
See the difference?
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Dec 28th 2007, 6:00 pm
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Re: Dual national entering US on UK passport
If you're going to use words, feel free to use them properly.
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Dec 28th 2007, 6:05 pm
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Re: Dual national entering US on UK passport
Actually, in the context you describe, "just" is an adverb and describes an immediacy with respect to the word or phrase that it modifies. So, "just last year" means "in the immediate last year"... still, something that happened a year ago. To push this to the next level, "I just lost my passport" means that it happened within some immediately recent time period - and therefore *not* the truth as far as the OP is concerned.
If you're going to use words, feel free to use them properly.
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If you're going to use words, feel free to use them properly.
Ian
Dec 28th 2007, 8:37 pm
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Re: Dual national entering US on UK passport
Define "recent time period". Yesterday? Last year? 4 seconds ago? And here was me thinking subjective terms had no defined scale - I didn't realize someone out there has defined all subjective terms. Cool.
If you could fill me in on the definition of the following, I'd really appreciate it:
1. Old
2. Young
3. Expensive
4. Hairy
5. Complicated
For your benefit, I'll assume in your world of omniscience, a "recent time period" is yesterday, since that makes your point beyond reproach? I hope to go there one day myself soon (and by soon, I mean in just the next few days, not next year... though that would be just 4 days, so I guess... oh boy...
).
Another one... sorry
:
6. Soon
Ooh, the OP only has to wait 4 days
Problem solved, since it doesn't actually mean it happened 365 days ago by your own definition of "in the immediate last year". Oh dear.
If you're going to create and then use your own definitions, feel free to apply them properly.
If you could fill me in on the definition of the following, I'd really appreciate it:
1. Old
2. Young
3. Expensive
4. Hairy
5. Complicated
For your benefit, I'll assume in your world of omniscience, a "recent time period" is yesterday, since that makes your point beyond reproach? I hope to go there one day myself soon (and by soon, I mean in just the next few days, not next year... though that would be just 4 days, so I guess... oh boy...
).Another one... sorry
:6. Soon
Ooh, the OP only has to wait 4 days
So, "just last year" means "in the immediate last year"... still, something that happened a year ago
If you're going to create and then use your own definitions, feel free to apply them properly.
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Dec 29th 2007, 2:14 am
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Re: Dual national entering US on UK passport
Ian