The health care bill is past by just 7 votes!
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Re: The health care bill is past by just 7 votes!
Well, because nobody is imposing anything by force - just enacting legislation using the mechanisms that are permitted by the constitution & legislative practice. So, citizens should use the constitutional means at their disposal; exercising their vote at the next & subsequent elections.
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Re: The health care bill is past by just 7 votes!
Did anyone read the bill yet?
Anything in it for the middle-classes?
This is a genuine question - I'm not going to read it!
Anything in it for the middle-classes?
This is a genuine question - I'm not going to read it!
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Re: The health care bill is past by just 7 votes!
Oh, and if you can't afford to buy your mandated by force premiums, you can get a tax credit. It's "subsidized". To which I ask, if we're robbing Peter to pay Paul, where does the money come from? It's a sham.
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Re: The health care bill is past by just 7 votes!
Yep. The middle class get coal. And restrictions. A beefed IRS to enforce your "choice".
Oh, and if you can't afford to buy your mandated by force premiums, you can get a tax credit. It's "subsidized". To which I ask, if we're robbing Peter to pay Paul, where does the money come from? It's a sham.
Oh, and if you can't afford to buy your mandated by force premiums, you can get a tax credit. It's "subsidized". To which I ask, if we're robbing Peter to pay Paul, where does the money come from? It's a sham.
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Re: The health care bill is past by just 7 votes!
But, just to name two provisions that could help middle-class people; coverage of people with pre-existing conditions, and extension of coverage of young adults up to the age of 26 on their parents' plans...
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Re: The health care bill is past by just 7 votes!
Well, because nobody is imposing anything by force - just enacting legislation using the mechanisms that are permitted by the constitution & legislative practice. So, citizens should use the constitutional means at their disposal; exercising their vote at the next & subsequent elections.
The fact that the mechanisms used to enact legislation are constitutional does not prevent them from being an imposition by force (or by threat of the use of violence, which is tantamount to that).
Last edited by nettlebed; Mar 24th 2010 at 3:16 pm.
#207
Re: The health care bill is past by just 7 votes!
What makes me think you've opposed it previously?
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The pre-existing condition clause sounds good, but it's forcing insurance companies to take on "risky" people (in insurance terms). Surely the insurance companies will just push up premiums for everyone?
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Re: The health care bill is past by just 7 votes!
My opinion is that this quote certainly seems to be exercising Planet Wingnut Blogosphere. Not sure who the 300 people are who he's talking about, though.
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Re: The health care bill is past by just 7 votes!
Well, I would say the middle-income bracket, and that must be any family grossing between 40k and 80k... maybe - I'm just guessing.
The pre-existing condition clause sounds good, but it's forcing insurance companies to take on "risky" people (in insurance terms). Surely the insurance companies will just push up premiums for everyone?
The pre-existing condition clause sounds good, but it's forcing insurance companies to take on "risky" people (in insurance terms). Surely the insurance companies will just push up premiums for everyone?