The Old Boys Club
#1
The Old Boys Club
I hate it! It seems to me that the old boys club rules in so many ways here in NS. The province has a labour shortage (apparently) but its so hard to get even an interview once you have seen a job advertised that is of course.
If they like you, you are in, if they dont like you, you are out. Sometimes it has nothing to do how good you are, if the manager is a twat and doesnt like your face you are out.
I saw this in my last job, the supervisor of a division got rid of a guy he "just didnt like, wasnt part of the club" because he just didnt like him. Lets ignore the fact that he made the most sales, was a nice guy who just wanted to do his job etc etc.
This is just one example. Obviously there are bigger corporations but this seems to be prevalent!
rant over!
If they like you, you are in, if they dont like you, you are out. Sometimes it has nothing to do how good you are, if the manager is a twat and doesnt like your face you are out.
I saw this in my last job, the supervisor of a division got rid of a guy he "just didnt like, wasnt part of the club" because he just didnt like him. Lets ignore the fact that he made the most sales, was a nice guy who just wanted to do his job etc etc.
This is just one example. Obviously there are bigger corporations but this seems to be prevalent!
rant over!
#2
Banned
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 744
Re: The Old Boys Club
I hate it! It seems to me that the old boys club rules in so many ways here in NS. The province has a labour shortage (apparently) but its so hard to get even an interview once you have seen a job advertised that is of course.
If they like you, you are in, if they dont like you, you are out. Sometimes it has nothing to do how good you are, if the manager is a twat and doesnt like your face you are out.
I saw this in my last job, the supervisor of a division got rid of a guy he "just didnt like, wasnt part of the club" because he just didnt like him. Lets ignore the fact that he made the most sales, was a nice guy who just wanted to do his job etc etc.
This is just one example. Obviously there are bigger corporations but this seems to be prevalent!
rant over!
If they like you, you are in, if they dont like you, you are out. Sometimes it has nothing to do how good you are, if the manager is a twat and doesnt like your face you are out.
I saw this in my last job, the supervisor of a division got rid of a guy he "just didnt like, wasnt part of the club" because he just didnt like him. Lets ignore the fact that he made the most sales, was a nice guy who just wanted to do his job etc etc.
This is just one example. Obviously there are bigger corporations but this seems to be prevalent!
rant over!
#3
Re: The Old Boys Club
Its hard to explain what I mean. They tend to recruit their friends too, even if that friend is 67 years old!
#4
Banned
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 744
Re: The Old Boys Club
Before we had such rigourous anti racism laws and protection for minorities, I wonder what the views were of those immigrants that came to UK? I suspect they felt, very much as you feel now.
In fact I would go as far as if there is an indian nurse in a uK hospital, on the whole, I suspect her collegues think she is a liability. A bit broad brush perhaps, so how do the patients feel? A bit off subject but all open to debate in a free world. Best regards.fletch
#5
Re: The Old Boys Club
Nepotism rules! Along with canadian experience and canadian protectionism of their professional qualifications. People in the rest of the world could not possibly have as good an education/training as those in Canada. Their country, their rules. What a joke!
Before we had such rigourous anti racism laws and protection for minorities, I wonder what the views were of those immigrants that came to UK? I suspect they felt, very much as you feel now.
In fact I would go as far as if there is an indian nurse in a uK hospital, on the whole, I suspect her collegues think she is a liability. A bit broad brush perhaps, so how do the patients feel? A bit off subject but all open to debate in a free world. Best regards.fletch
Before we had such rigourous anti racism laws and protection for minorities, I wonder what the views were of those immigrants that came to UK? I suspect they felt, very much as you feel now.
In fact I would go as far as if there is an indian nurse in a uK hospital, on the whole, I suspect her collegues think she is a liability. A bit broad brush perhaps, so how do the patients feel? A bit off subject but all open to debate in a free world. Best regards.fletch
#6
The Brit is back
Joined: Apr 2010
Location: NS, Canada 2007-2013. Now....England!
Posts: 2,211
Re: The Old Boys Club
My hubby was pissed off a few weeks back because on top of all the other crap he deals with, he had to spend time training a useless unqualified woman who shouldn't have got the job, but she was the boss' daughter!
#7
Re: The Old Boys Club
The fact her Mother was the organisations deputy Manager & Mummy was on the interviewing panel is no doubt purely incidental.
The whole farce had a happy ending. Mother eventually got the sack for bullying (official explanation was ill health) & inevitably, the daughter was on her bike fairly soon afterwards.
#8
Re: The Old Boys Club
Definitely all about networking over here and who you know!
OH was the auctioneer last night at the main fundraising event for the local hospital. After he had done it they were practically queuing up to congratulate him on what a good job he had done...
He's made a few more friends in high places as a result and when we need a favor they'll be there...
...just playing the game!
OH was the auctioneer last night at the main fundraising event for the local hospital. After he had done it they were practically queuing up to congratulate him on what a good job he had done...
He's made a few more friends in high places as a result and when we need a favor they'll be there...
...just playing the game!
#9
Re: The Old Boys Club
I agree its all about networking and I can see its merits IF YOU ARE ANY GOOD. If you are crap, why should you get opportunities others dont, based on your best mates.
#11
Re: The Old Boys Club
Definitely all about networking over here and who you know!
OH was the auctioneer last night at the main fundraising event for the local hospital. After he had done it they were practically queuing up to congratulate him on what a good job he had done...
He's made a few more friends in high places as a result and when we need a favor they'll be there...
...just playing the game!
OH was the auctioneer last night at the main fundraising event for the local hospital. After he had done it they were practically queuing up to congratulate him on what a good job he had done...
He's made a few more friends in high places as a result and when we need a favor they'll be there...
...just playing the game!
Last edited by Howefamily; Apr 29th 2012 at 2:54 pm.
#12
slanderer of the innocent
Joined: Dec 2008
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 6,695
Re: The Old Boys Club
Sounds like NZ. I haven't come across that level of nepotism here yet, touch wood. My employers employ a lot of new immigrants.
Last edited by ExKiwilass; Apr 29th 2012 at 3:41 pm.
#13
slanderer of the innocent
Joined: Dec 2008
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 6,695
Re: The Old Boys Club
The thing is, if NS is really like that, is that you have to be careful. You can't afford to piss anyone off as everyone talks and your reputation can be very easily besmirched. Take every opportunity that comes your way, don't say no to anything, don't turn down an opportunity even if you think ti's beneath you.
#14
Re: The Old Boys Club
Thanks kiwilass, we do do that. Some things just dont seem to pan out that way