becoming a police officer
Apr 17th 2014, 4:34 pm
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Re: becoming a police officer
How can anyone know when you haven't decided what city you will apply to, and this is all pie in the sky anyway since it isn't going to happen until you marry your US girlfriend, in your own words "in a couple years time."
When you are in a position to apply, the jurisdiction you have chosen will give instructions for potential applicants when they are hiring.
When you are in a position to apply, the jurisdiction you have chosen will give instructions for potential applicants when they are hiring.
Apr 28th 2014, 11:32 am
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Re: becoming a police officer
Death or glory jimmymac. If you don't have a real go to reach the goals you want, you might regret it forever.
One thing I would suggest is that it might be an idea to seek out the easiest PD to get into. Apply, get in and work there. A transfer to Chicago or elsewhere will be much easier for a serving officer than a freshie.
If what everyone says about LA is the case, then if you have worked there, you can confidently work anywhere, and CPD and everyone else will know that. Might be worth a look.
Only issue with that is that once you get the buzz, it will be difficult to leave!!
Good luck.
One thing I would suggest is that it might be an idea to seek out the easiest PD to get into. Apply, get in and work there. A transfer to Chicago or elsewhere will be much easier for a serving officer than a freshie.
If what everyone says about LA is the case, then if you have worked there, you can confidently work anywhere, and CPD and everyone else will know that. Might be worth a look.
Only issue with that is that once you get the buzz, it will be difficult to leave!!
Good luck.
Apr 28th 2014, 11:39 am
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Re: becoming a police officer
Death or glory jimmymac. If you don't have a real go to reach the goals you want, you might regret it forever.
One thing I would suggest is that it might be an idea to seek out the easiest PD to get into. Apply, get in and work there. A transfer to Chicago or elsewhere will be much easier for a serving officer than a freshie.
If what everyone says about LA is the case, then if you have worked there, you can confidently work anywhere, and CPD and everyone else will know that. Might be worth a look.
Only issue with that is that once you get the buzz, it will be difficult to leave!!
Good luck.
One thing I would suggest is that it might be an idea to seek out the easiest PD to get into. Apply, get in and work there. A transfer to Chicago or elsewhere will be much easier for a serving officer than a freshie.
If what everyone says about LA is the case, then if you have worked there, you can confidently work anywhere, and CPD and everyone else will know that. Might be worth a look.
Only issue with that is that once you get the buzz, it will be difficult to leave!!
Good luck.
Apr 28th 2014, 8:04 pm
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Re: becoming a police officer
Dying for recruits or recruits are dying?
Apr 28th 2014, 9:58 pm
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I think the crime rate has increased in North Dakota. May be some demand there.
It was also listed as one of the best places to live recently.
It was also listed as one of the best places to live recently.
May 24th 2014, 3:39 am
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Oh do give over. Search google, there's multiple statistics about to prove my point.
For example, Tom Windsor feels the same as I do about the intellectual standard of UK cops: http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/m...y-redundancies and more here http://metro.co.uk/2011/09/14/police...lawyer-149468/
Do you also know less than a third of UK police officers hold a degree?
I won't even start to mention the corrupt police federation members who attempted to fit up a Cabinet minister or the actions of scum like officer Simon Harwood. I could write for hours on police incompetence, corruption and general low quality of policing in the UK if you'd like?
For example, Tom Windsor feels the same as I do about the intellectual standard of UK cops: http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/m...y-redundancies and more here http://metro.co.uk/2011/09/14/police...lawyer-149468/
Do you also know less than a third of UK police officers hold a degree?
I won't even start to mention the corrupt police federation members who attempted to fit up a Cabinet minister or the actions of scum like officer Simon Harwood. I could write for hours on police incompetence, corruption and general low quality of policing in the UK if you'd like?
If so, you clearly have no idea what the day to day role of the average cop involves.
Not every jobs worth can be equated to whether a degree is required or not
May 26th 2014, 2:22 am
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Now, I know some limited specialist roles within the police, would benefit from a specific related degree..........I'm thinking forensics, computer related and financial criminal investigations, but I can't think of any real benefit a general unrelated degree would have for your average front line operational officer.
May 26th 2014, 8:33 pm
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It's horses for courses really.
As a former Police officer with a degree no less! I worked with fellow officers who had degrees and obviously some who didn't. There is no hard and fast rule- some officers who had been well educated couldn't cope and left before their probation, others who had not been so well educated took to the job like a duck to water.
An example, a lot of police work involves communicating with criminals and their associates the sort of people most members of the public cross the road to avoid I don't think that having a degree helps you prepare for these sort of interactions in fact being from a more straightforward background can aid you. Qualities like thinking on your feet, reading people, understanding slang, who might be telling porkies to you aren't taught at university.
Tom Winsor and Teresa May have no clue about Policing at all anything they suggest should taken with a big dose of salt.
I was a Policemen who was open to change and new ideas but it will always get peoples backs up if the government and others steam in with their rhetoric about 'lazy, incompetent, corrupt police', the organisation must be reformed with our new ideas immediately or else.
As a former Police officer with a degree no less! I worked with fellow officers who had degrees and obviously some who didn't. There is no hard and fast rule- some officers who had been well educated couldn't cope and left before their probation, others who had not been so well educated took to the job like a duck to water.
An example, a lot of police work involves communicating with criminals and their associates the sort of people most members of the public cross the road to avoid I don't think that having a degree helps you prepare for these sort of interactions in fact being from a more straightforward background can aid you. Qualities like thinking on your feet, reading people, understanding slang, who might be telling porkies to you aren't taught at university.
Tom Winsor and Teresa May have no clue about Policing at all anything they suggest should taken with a big dose of salt.
I was a Policemen who was open to change and new ideas but it will always get peoples backs up if the government and others steam in with their rhetoric about 'lazy, incompetent, corrupt police', the organisation must be reformed with our new ideas immediately or else.
May 27th 2014, 12:44 am
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It's horses for courses really.
As a former Police officer with a degree no less! I worked with fellow officers who had degrees and obviously some who didn't. There is no hard and fast rule- some officers who had been well educated couldn't cope and left before their probation, others who had not been so well educated took to the job like a duck to water.
An example, a lot of police work involves communicating with criminals and their associates the sort of people most members of the public cross the road to avoid I don't think that having a degree helps you prepare for these sort of interactions in fact being from a more straightforward background can aid you. Qualities like thinking on your feet, reading people, understanding slang, who might be telling porkies to you aren't taught at university.
Tom Winsor and Teresa May have no clue about Policing at all anything they suggest should taken with a big dose of salt.
I was a Policemen who was open to change and new ideas but it will always get peoples backs up if the government and others steam in with their rhetoric about 'lazy, incompetent, corrupt police', the organisation must be reformed with our new ideas immediately or else.
As a former Police officer with a degree no less! I worked with fellow officers who had degrees and obviously some who didn't. There is no hard and fast rule- some officers who had been well educated couldn't cope and left before their probation, others who had not been so well educated took to the job like a duck to water.
An example, a lot of police work involves communicating with criminals and their associates the sort of people most members of the public cross the road to avoid I don't think that having a degree helps you prepare for these sort of interactions in fact being from a more straightforward background can aid you. Qualities like thinking on your feet, reading people, understanding slang, who might be telling porkies to you aren't taught at university.
Tom Winsor and Teresa May have no clue about Policing at all anything they suggest should taken with a big dose of salt.
I was a Policemen who was open to change and new ideas but it will always get peoples backs up if the government and others steam in with their rhetoric about 'lazy, incompetent, corrupt police', the organisation must be reformed with our new ideas immediately or else.
I should clarify, that I don't think having a degree is a bad thing for a police officer, quite the opposite.
I just think that it's an unnecessary requirement for most police work and would ultimately result in a lot of your best potential applicants being precluded.
May 27th 2014, 4:54 am
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I can remember when O Levels would suffice for many jobs, when I started work you could still get into my profession with A Levels, then it was a Degree, now I do not know...
Grade inflation, the people who would have just O Levels many years ago would now have a Degree,
Is it worthwhile, probably in the vast majority of jobs absolutely not.
You have the crazy situation where many people ill suited for further education are wasting a fair chunk of their potentially most productive years.
One article I read, probably Guardian, was an expose of the fringe Colleges that basically sign up anybody with a pulse, they get their fees, the 'srudents' get their loans etc, attendance not required.
No need to worry paying back because the 'students' are non UK or are never likely to earn enough.
Crazy world.
Obviously will have to come to an end at some point.
Grade inflation, the people who would have just O Levels many years ago would now have a Degree,
Is it worthwhile, probably in the vast majority of jobs absolutely not.
You have the crazy situation where many people ill suited for further education are wasting a fair chunk of their potentially most productive years.
One article I read, probably Guardian, was an expose of the fringe Colleges that basically sign up anybody with a pulse, they get their fees, the 'srudents' get their loans etc, attendance not required.
No need to worry paying back because the 'students' are non UK or are never likely to earn enough.
Crazy world.
Obviously will have to come to an end at some point.
May 28th 2014, 3:33 pm
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In my daughter's agency, Deputies with degree education are always selected for advancement before those who are without one - to the extent that degree-less officers are not even permitted to apply for a promotion if there are candidates with a degree.
May 29th 2014, 2:27 am
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That would make sense if the officer has a "relevant" degree, I'm thinking along the lines of management/ business type qualifications. It makes far less sense, if it's just a generic degree.
