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Warmest city in Europe in February

Old Aug 23rd 2006, 6:31 pm
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didier Meurgues
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PGPS a �crit :

    > Hi,
    > I intend to travel through europe in February of next year. I was
    > wondering if you can suggest a good tourist place which is warm (20
    > degrees centigrade or more) in mid-February. I wish to use the Euro
    > rail for a maximum of 12hr ride one way. Any suggestions will be highly
    > appreciated.
    > Thanks.

Madeira : 18� C
eastern Cyprus : 17� C
western Crete or Gibraltar : 16.5 �C
Valetta or Palma de Mallorca : 15 �C
 
Old Aug 24th 2006, 8:21 pm
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Jesper Lauridsen
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On 2006-08-23, The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Following up to Frank F. Matthews
    >>> UK and Ireland are not on the continent, but are clearly part of
    >>> Europe.
    > "continental Europe" is one expression, "Europe" is another. The
    > latter includes the British Isles and Scandinavia according to my
    > dictionary.

What island is Sweden on, according to your dictionary?
 
Old Aug 24th 2006, 8:58 pm
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Dave Frightens Me
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On 24 Aug 2006 20:21:12 GMT, Jesper Lauridsen
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >On 2006-08-23, The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> Following up to Frank F. Matthews
    >>>> UK and Ireland are not on the continent, but are clearly part of
    >>>> Europe.
    >> "continental Europe" is one expression, "Europe" is another. The
    >> latter includes the British Isles and Scandinavia according to my
    >> dictionary.
    >What island is Sweden on, according to your dictionary?

It's definitely not part of what is known as "continental Europe",
it's part of Scandinavian Europe.

Have a look at Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_Europe

"The British concept

In the British mind Continental Europe is foremost represented by the
Benelux, Germany, Spain, Italy and especially France. A famous
(perhaps apocryphal) British newspaper headline once read "Fog in
Channel; Continent Cut Off".

The Nordic concept

In Nordic usage, the United Kingdom, Ireland, Scandinavia, Iceland and
Finland are excluded."
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Old Aug 25th 2006, 8:31 am
  #49  
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"Dave Frightens Me" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
    > On 24 Aug 2006 20:21:12 GMT, Jesper Lauridsen
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >On 2006-08-23, The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >> Following up to Frank F. Matthews
    > >>
    > >>>> UK and Ireland are not on the continent, but are clearly part of
    > >>>> Europe.
    > >>
    > >> "continental Europe" is one expression, "Europe" is another. The
    > >> latter includes the British Isles and Scandinavia according to my
    > >> dictionary.
    > >
    > >What island is Sweden on, according to your dictionary?
    > It's definitely not part of what is known as "continental Europe",
    > it's part of Scandinavian Europe.
    > Have a look at Wiki:
    > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_Europe
    > "The British concept
    > In the British mind Continental Europe is foremost represented by the
    > Benelux, Germany, Spain, Italy and especially France. A famous
    > (perhaps apocryphal) British newspaper headline once read "Fog in
    > Channel; Continent Cut Off".
    > The Nordic concept
    > In Nordic usage, the United Kingdom, Ireland, Scandinavia, Iceland and
    > Finland are excluded."
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    > DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com
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    > --

Scandinavia (apart from Iceland) was physically attached to Europe last time
I looked.

Surreyman
 
Old Aug 25th 2006, 2:19 pm
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Lennart Petersen
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"Dave Frightens Me" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> skrev i
meddelandet news:[email protected]...
    > The Nordic concept
    > In Nordic usage, the United Kingdom, Ireland, Scandinavia, Iceland and
    > Finland are excluded."
--------------
This is simply not true. We in the Nordic and Scandinavia aren't used to
exclude anything of the mentioned from Europe.
Whenever was Wikipedia considered as the final truth ?
 
Old Aug 25th 2006, 6:59 pm
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On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 08:31:48 GMT, "a.spencer3"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >"Dave Frightens Me" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote in
    >message news:[email protected]...
    >> On 24 Aug 2006 20:21:12 GMT, Jesper Lauridsen
    >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> >On 2006-08-23, The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> >> Following up to Frank F. Matthews
    >> >>
    >> >>>> UK and Ireland are not on the continent, but are clearly part of
    >> >>>> Europe.
    >> >>
    >> >> "continental Europe" is one expression, "Europe" is another. The
    >> >> latter includes the British Isles and Scandinavia according to my
    >> >> dictionary.
    >> >
    >> >What island is Sweden on, according to your dictionary?
    >> It's definitely not part of what is known as "continental Europe",
    >> it's part of Scandinavian Europe.
    >> Have a look at Wiki:
    >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_Europe
    >> "The British concept
    >> In the British mind Continental Europe is foremost represented by the
    >> Benelux, Germany, Spain, Italy and especially France. A famous
    >> (perhaps apocryphal) British newspaper headline once read "Fog in
    >> Channel; Continent Cut Off".
    >> The Nordic concept
    >> In Nordic usage, the United Kingdom, Ireland, Scandinavia, Iceland and
    >> Finland are excluded."
    >> --
    >> ---
    >> DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com
    >> ---
    >> --
    >Scandinavia (apart from Iceland) was physically attached to Europe last time
    >I looked.

We are talking about the term Continental Europe though.
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Old Aug 25th 2006, 6:59 pm
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On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 14:19:36 GMT, "Lennart Petersen"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >"Dave Frightens Me" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> skrev i
    >meddelandet news:[email protected]...
    >> The Nordic concept
    >> In Nordic usage, the United Kingdom, Ireland, Scandinavia, Iceland and
    >> Finland are excluded."
    >--------------
    >This is simply not true. We in the Nordic and Scandinavia aren't used to
    >exclude anything of the mentioned from Europe.
    >Whenever was Wikipedia considered as the final truth ?

We are talking about the term Continental Europe though.
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Old Aug 25th 2006, 7:05 pm
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Why in the world would Continental Europe not include countries in
Europe that you can drive between by land. Now, I will admit it is a
bit round about to go from Jutland to Norway by land but the path does
exist. Now Denmark is Scandinavian & has lots of islands so maybe it
should be excluded but not Finland, Norway, and Sweden.

Dave Frightens Me wrote:

    > On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 14:19:36 GMT, "Lennart Petersen"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >
    >>"Dave Frightens Me" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> skrev i
    >>meddelandet news:[email protected]...
    >>>The Nordic concept
    >>>In Nordic usage, the United Kingdom, Ireland, Scandinavia, Iceland and
    >>>Finland are excluded."
    >>--------------
    >>This is simply not true. We in the Nordic and Scandinavia aren't used to
    >>exclude anything of the mentioned from Europe.
    >>Whenever was Wikipedia considered as the final truth ?
    >
    >
    > We are talking about the term Continental Europe though.
 
Old Aug 25th 2006, 10:58 pm
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Martin
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On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 20:59:23 +0200, Dave Frightens Me
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:

    >On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 14:19:36 GMT, "Lennart Petersen"
    ><[email protected]> wrote:
    >>"Dave Frightens Me" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> skrev i
    >>meddelandet news:[email protected]...
    >>> The Nordic concept
    >>> In Nordic usage, the United Kingdom, Ireland, Scandinavia, Iceland and
    >>> Finland are excluded."
    >>--------------
    >>This is simply not true. We in the Nordic and Scandinavia aren't used to
    >>exclude anything of the mentioned from Europe.
    >>Whenever was Wikipedia considered as the final truth ?
    >We are talking about the term Continental Europe though.

First we were discussing whether Cyprus and Malta were in Europe and
then things drifted.
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Old Aug 26th 2006, 1:32 am
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Lennart Petersen
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"Dave Frightens Me" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> skrev i
meddelandet news:[email protected]...
    > On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 14:19:36 GMT, "Lennart Petersen"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>"Dave Frightens Me" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> skrev i
    >>meddelandet news:[email protected]...
    >>> The Nordic concept
    >>> In Nordic usage, the United Kingdom, Ireland, Scandinavia, Iceland and
    >>> Finland are excluded."
    >>--------------
    >>This is simply not true. We in the Nordic and Scandinavia aren't used to
    >>exclude anything of the mentioned from Europe.
    >>Whenever was Wikipedia considered as the final truth ?
    > We are talking about the term Continental Europe though.
    > --

But we aren't dividing Europe that way in the Nordic.
Talking about "Continental Europe" is for Englishmen mainly.
 
Old Aug 26th 2006, 3:02 am
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Frank F. Matthews
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Lennart Petersen wrote:

    > "Dave Frightens Me" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> skrev i
    > meddelandet news:[email protected]...
    >
    >>On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 14:19:36 GMT, "Lennart Petersen"
    >><[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>"Dave Frightens Me" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> skrev i
    >>>meddelandet news:[email protected]...
    >>>>The Nordic concept
    >>>>In Nordic usage, the United Kingdom, Ireland, Scandinavia, Iceland and
    >>>>Finland are excluded."
    >>>--------------
    >>>This is simply not true. We in the Nordic and Scandinavia aren't used to
    >>>exclude anything of the mentioned from Europe.
    >>>Whenever was Wikipedia considered as the final truth ?
    >>We are talking about the term Continental Europe though.
    >>--
    >
    >
    > But we aren't dividing Europe that way in the Nordic.
    > Talking about "Continental Europe" is for Englishmen mainly.
    >
    >

But the British I know include most of Scandinavia in that concept as
well. Except for Iceland of course.
 
Old Aug 26th 2006, 8:35 am
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On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 01:32:41 GMT, "Lennart Petersen"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >"Dave Frightens Me" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> skrev i
    >meddelandet news:[email protected]...
    >> On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 14:19:36 GMT, "Lennart Petersen"
    >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>"Dave Frightens Me" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> skrev i
    >>>meddelandet news:[email protected]...
    >>>> The Nordic concept
    >>>> In Nordic usage, the United Kingdom, Ireland, Scandinavia, Iceland and
    >>>> Finland are excluded."
    >>>--------------
    >>>This is simply not true. We in the Nordic and Scandinavia aren't used to
    >>>exclude anything of the mentioned from Europe.
    >>>Whenever was Wikipedia considered as the final truth ?
    >> We are talking about the term Continental Europe though.
    >> --
    >But we aren't dividing Europe that way in the Nordic.
    >Talking about "Continental Europe" is for Englishmen mainly.

Englishmen only use Continental Europe to distinguish it from the
islands.
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Old Aug 26th 2006, 12:19 pm
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Lennart Petersen
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"Martin" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
news:[email protected]...
    > On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 01:32:41 GMT, "Lennart Petersen"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>"Dave Frightens Me" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> skrev i
    >>meddelandet news:[email protected]...
    >>> On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 14:19:36 GMT, "Lennart Petersen"
    >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>"Dave Frightens Me" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> skrev i
    >>>>meddelandet news:[email protected]...
    >>>>> The Nordic concept
    >>>>> In Nordic usage, the United Kingdom, Ireland, Scandinavia, Iceland and
    >>>>> Finland are excluded."
    >>>>--------------
    >>>>This is simply not true. We in the Nordic and Scandinavia aren't used
    >>>>to
    >>>>exclude anything of the mentioned from Europe.
    >>>>Whenever was Wikipedia considered as the final truth ?
    >>> We are talking about the term Continental Europe though.
    >>> --
    >>But we aren't dividing Europe that way in the Nordic.
    >>Talking about "Continental Europe" is for Englishmen mainly.
    > Englishmen only use Continental Europe to distinguish it from the
    > islands.
--------------
I didn't say anything about how Englishmen determine Continental Europe.
 
Old Aug 26th 2006, 12:35 pm
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Lennart Petersen
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"Ulf Kutzner" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
news:[email protected]...
    > Lennart Petersen schrieb:
    >> As I said it's likely to be related with the Schengen treaty:
    >> "The following territories of the membership countries are not covered by
    >> the agreement:
    >> All non-European parts of France
    >> a.. the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba of the Netherlands
    >> b.. Heligoland of Germany
    >> c.. Svalbard of Norway (But Jan Mayen Island is covered by the
    >> agreement.)
    >> d.. Greenland and the Faroe Islands of Denmark, although formally
    >> excluded from the Schengen area, are integrated with it. (It was laid
    >> down in the association agreement with Denmark that persons travelling
    >> between the Faroe Islands and Greenland on the one hand, and the Schengen
    >> member states on the other hand, are not subject to a border check. The
    >> traditional Free Movement of Persons acquis of the European Community is
    >> not applicable to Greenland and to the Faroe Islands.)
    >> e.. Livigno of Italy is a "tax haven" and maintains customs checks and
    >> random passport control
    > Could you please give an URL? As far as I remember, Heligoland is exempted
    > from the European tax area but not from Schengen.
    > Regards, ULF

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_treaty
But as Wikipedia isn't the absolute truth always, there could be reason to
believe that this author have mixed up something about Helgoland.
 
Old Aug 26th 2006, 1:45 pm
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Martin
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On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 12:19:02 GMT, "Lennart Petersen"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >"Martin" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
    >news:[email protected].. .
    >> On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 01:32:41 GMT, "Lennart Petersen"
    >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>"Dave Frightens Me" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> skrev i
    >>>meddelandet news:[email protected]...
    >>>> On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 14:19:36 GMT, "Lennart Petersen"
    >>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>>"Dave Frightens Me" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> skrev i
    >>>>>meddelandet news:[email protected]...
    >>>>>> The Nordic concept
    >>>>>> In Nordic usage, the United Kingdom, Ireland, Scandinavia, Iceland and
    >>>>>> Finland are excluded."
    >>>>>--------------
    >>>>>This is simply not true. We in the Nordic and Scandinavia aren't used
    >>>>>to
    >>>>>exclude anything of the mentioned from Europe.
    >>>>>Whenever was Wikipedia considered as the final truth ?
    >>>> We are talking about the term Continental Europe though.
    >>>> --
    >>>But we aren't dividing Europe that way in the Nordic.
    >>>Talking about "Continental Europe" is for Englishmen mainly.
    >> Englishmen only use Continental Europe to distinguish it from the
    >> islands.
    >--------------
    >I didn't say anything about how Englishmen determine Continental Europe.

No, but I did.

Note: Not every post is intended to start an argument.
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