Moving to Brisbane
Apr 28th 2014, 2:27 pm
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Re: Moving to Brisbane
Thanks for all the advice guys... Lots to consider.
Re Wi Fi.... Yes it is everywhere. Which is precisely why kids should be given a break from it at school. It is microwave radiation mixed with High frequency radio waves. Who knows what damage they will do in the long term.
France, Germany, Russia and Israel have banned Wi Fi in schools and lots of schools in England and Scandinavian countries have also chosen cabled internet only.
Most people don't think about it. But the research ( coming out of Sweden manly is very concerning)
It just drives me crazy that Australia are rolling it out everywhere. When it hasn't been proven totally safe. And schools should be protected as kids are more vulnerable to radiation than we are.
Anyway. I'm looking at Manly West currently. The school seems good too. No Wi Fi. Lol
Re Wi Fi.... Yes it is everywhere. Which is precisely why kids should be given a break from it at school. It is microwave radiation mixed with High frequency radio waves. Who knows what damage they will do in the long term.
France, Germany, Russia and Israel have banned Wi Fi in schools and lots of schools in England and Scandinavian countries have also chosen cabled internet only.
Most people don't think about it. But the research ( coming out of Sweden manly is very concerning)
It just drives me crazy that Australia are rolling it out everywhere. When it hasn't been proven totally safe. And schools should be protected as kids are more vulnerable to radiation than we are.
Anyway. I'm looking at Manly West currently. The school seems good too. No Wi Fi. Lol
Apr 30th 2014, 12:19 am
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Re: Moving to Brisbane
May 2nd 2014, 12:44 pm
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Re: Moving to Brisbane
Hi,
How is the ICT Job Market in Brisbane? Also compared to big cities like Sydney and Melbourne, how is the cost of living?
How is the ICT Job Market in Brisbane? Also compared to big cities like Sydney and Melbourne, how is the cost of living?
May 3rd 2014, 4:00 pm
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Re: Moving to Brisbane
In Australia, there's this massive source of extremely damaging radiation in the sky, called 'The Sun'. It's virtually GUARANTEED to give you cancer if you get exposed too much.
1 out of every 15 males in Australia develop melanoma (the cancer you get from exposure to radiation from the sun). More than 1500 Australians die from melanoma each year.
It's only human to be afraid of the hocus-pocus (WiFi/radio waves) yet feel safe about Mother Nature (sunshine).
If radio/cell phone/WiFi radiation were as damaging as sunshine, there would be a truly massive increase in cancer cases and the medical profession would be up in arms.
May 4th 2014, 3:36 am
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There is a truly massive increase in cancer cases! It's at what they like to call epidemic proportions. At the end of the way there is no definitive proof either way to say if exposure to man made radiation causes long term harm. There just isn't no matter what some people might say. There is strong research both for and against. But that is all it is. Research not proof. My point is that whilst the jury is still out. People should air on the side of caution. Especially where children are concerned. And if countries like Israel, Germany France and Russia have gathered enough evidence to ban WiFi in there schools. It has to make you stop and think. Governments don't make decisions like that on a win. And these countries have some of the best scientists on the world. Children are very vulnerable to EMR's. so they should be given a break from it. Instead they are more than likely exposed at home. And then 5 days a week for 6 hrs a day. It is so unnecessary. When cabled Internet is all you really need at school.
May 4th 2014, 11:23 am
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There is a truly massive increase in cancer cases! It's at what they like to call epidemic proportions. At the end of the way there is no definitive proof either way to say if exposure to man made radiation causes long term harm. There just isn't no matter what some people might say. There is strong research both for and against. But that is all it is. Research not proof. My point is that whilst the jury is still out. People should air on the side of caution. Especially where children are concerned. And if countries like Israel, Germany France and Russia have gathered enough evidence to ban WiFi in there schools. It has to make you stop and think. Governments don't make decisions like that on a win. And these countries have some of the best scientists on the world. Children are very vulnerable to EMR's. so they should be given a break from it. Instead they are more than likely exposed at home. And then 5 days a week for 6 hrs a day. It is so unnecessary. When cabled Internet is all you really need at school.
May 4th 2014, 11:33 am
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Re: Moving to Brisbane
There is no need to be sarcastic. I am merley expressing a concern. In 10 or 20 years time. Who is to say what the effects may be. Some times we just feel strongly about certain things. But we all make choices in our lives to minimise the dangers. Of course we can't live in a danger free world. But unnecessary risk seems like a no brainer to me. After all what choice do the kids have in all this. Nobody even asks the parents permission. I really hope my concerns are unwarranted. But so many other countries do not think so.
May 4th 2014, 11:37 am
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Re: Moving to Brisbane
There is a truly massive increase in cancer cases! It's at what they like to call epidemic proportions. At the end of the way there is no definitive proof either way to say if exposure to man made radiation causes long term harm. There just isn't no matter what some people might say. There is strong research both for and against. But that is all it is. Research not proof. My point is that whilst the jury is still out. People should air on the side of caution. Especially where children are concerned. And if countries like Israel, Germany France and Russia have gathered enough evidence to ban WiFi in there schools. It has to make you stop and think. Governments don't make decisions like that on a win. And these countries have some of the best scientists on the world. Children are very vulnerable to EMR's. so they should be given a break from it. Instead they are more than likely exposed at home. And then 5 days a week for 6 hrs a day. It is so unnecessary. When cabled Internet is all you really need at school.
May 4th 2014, 11:41 am
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There is no need to be sarcastic. I am merley expressing a concern. In 10 or 20 years time. Who is to say what the effects may be. Some times we just feel strongly about certain things. But we all make choices in our lives to minimise the dangers. Of course we can't live in a danger free world. But unnecessary risk seems like a no brainer to me. After all what choice do the kids have in all this. Nobody even asks the parents permission. I really hope my concerns are unwarranted. But so many other countries do not think so.
I see it as no different from the fact that I don't have kids because I would not want to risk a child suffering the genetic health issues I live with.
May 4th 2014, 11:43 am
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Re: Moving to Brisbane
Some Scandinavia countries discourage it. But France, Israel and Russia have banned Wi Fi in schools. Germany discourage some schools in the UK have also banned it's use. And the number is schools around the world that are now considering banning it are growing. It's a very interesting topic I find.
May 4th 2014, 2:17 pm
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Re: Moving to Brisbane
Hello Everyone,
I am also moving to Brisbane in June. My office happens to be situated in Brisbane CBD.
In Melbourne, I work in the CBD and live in Brunswick East that is neither much far from CBD but nor very close.
Can someone suggest which Brisbane suburbs are somehow similar to Lygon St. Brunswick?
Thanks for all the help.
Regards,
Fred, F.
I am also moving to Brisbane in June. My office happens to be situated in Brisbane CBD.
In Melbourne, I work in the CBD and live in Brunswick East that is neither much far from CBD but nor very close.
Can someone suggest which Brisbane suburbs are somehow similar to Lygon St. Brunswick?
Thanks for all the help.
Regards,
Fred, F.
May 5th 2014, 1:47 am
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Re: Moving to Brisbane
If you read ALL the articles both pro and con and then dissect the proof it comes as completely nonsensical. All of the cons are based on assumptions and concerns, not proof or evidence. I obviously discarded any evidence from those companies/entities which would look to profit from its existence for the pros and also those which were from complete nut job groups for the cons (and there are a few!! using scaremongering for no reason other than to be heard!).
May 5th 2014, 9:09 am
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Re: Moving to Brisbane
Re: WHO classifying as carcinogen
The WHO haven't classified WIFI (low level EMR) as a carcinogen. In fact they say there is no evidence that it is. It's a common misreading of their statement they made. They put EMR's in the group of things that are open to further study so funding can be allocated...grouped with things like coffee.
From WHO statement: "...Current evidence does not confirm the existence of any health consequences from exposure to low level electromagnetic fields."
Source: http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4273
Re: microwave
See the chart in post above for the difference in power between WiFi and microwaves. Wifi is less powerful than radio which we have had for 100 years.
Source: From: https://www.techblog.co.nz/632-Wifia...entialapproach
Re: blood brain study:
"Dr. Havas cites one such study that she says showed mobile phone signals break down the blood brain barrier. In fact, this study was a single in-vitro (petri dish) experiment, and the authors only hypothesized that one potential effect might be to increase the blood brain barrier permeability. In other words, nobody has ever observed such an effect. (my emphasis)
Source:http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4273
Interesting topic, but a bit of a derailing of your thread...maybe we should move it if you have more general Brisbane school stuff to ask ?
The WHO haven't classified WIFI (low level EMR) as a carcinogen. In fact they say there is no evidence that it is. It's a common misreading of their statement they made. They put EMR's in the group of things that are open to further study so funding can be allocated...grouped with things like coffee.
From WHO statement: "...Current evidence does not confirm the existence of any health consequences from exposure to low level electromagnetic fields."
Source: http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4273
Re: microwave
See the chart in post above for the difference in power between WiFi and microwaves. Wifi is less powerful than radio which we have had for 100 years.
Source: From: https://www.techblog.co.nz/632-Wifia...entialapproach
Re: blood brain study:
"Dr. Havas cites one such study that she says showed mobile phone signals break down the blood brain barrier. In fact, this study was a single in-vitro (petri dish) experiment, and the authors only hypothesized that one potential effect might be to increase the blood brain barrier permeability. In other words, nobody has ever observed such an effect. (my emphasis)
Source:http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4273
Interesting topic, but a bit of a derailing of your thread...maybe we should move it if you have more general Brisbane school stuff to ask ?
Nice to see some reasoned comments on this topic as opposed to some miss quotes to try and support the latest fad. When people start to talk about radiation they forget that they possibly get more from their granite top in the kitchen than they get really get exposed to in the real World.
May 7th 2014, 1:16 pm
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Re: Moving to Brisbane
I went to Manly State Primary - followed on by Cannon Hill Anglican College, i turned out okay!! I also lived in Manly, its a lovely area especially close to the water front! Close to Birkdale for the English chippy (Chumley Warners) and the pom shop (Britain on the Bayside) huge Brit community there!!
May 7th 2014, 5:40 pm
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Cancer cases in developed countries have been trending downwards for the last 20 years, mainly as a result of decreased smoking rates.
And yes, there's been a big increase in cancer for developing countries. Improved access to modern medicine means that people there are now finally getting old enough to develop cancer. Even a decade ago, most people in developing countries would not live long enough to see their grandchildren,
There's no scientific evidence for cancer risk from WiFi or cell phones. If you are truly concerned with your child's cancer risk, you should know that over 40% of cancers can be prevented by lifestyle changes.
- don't smoke
- don't be obese
- don't consume alcohol
- eat healthy, be active
- don't get HPV
- protect against the sun
- don't be in an occupation involving dangerous chemicals
That's right, follow these simple rules and you cut your chance of getting cancer by 40%. Banning WiFi would cut it by... approximately 0%
