BritishExpatriate

You gotta remember that the Irish economy is and has been for a while doing a lot worse than that of the United Kingdom!

christmasoompa

Depends what it was for - things like speeding are civil offences, so won't show up, but others will.

BritishExpatriate

They will but only if he was convicted or accepted a caution in relation to his criminal offences: If he was merely arrested but not convicted, even for murder, nothing will be on there.

onyourradar

Lets all say a prayer to Jesus at 8.30 and maybe we can have a miracle

christmasoompa

In which case, then no. You wouldn't get a Temp Work Permit, so although you could accompany your parents and go on their application, you'd essentially be on a visitor visa for the duration. So if you want to work, you'd need to get an IEC.

One thing they need to be aware of, is that they can only include you on any application for PR until the age of 22, so make sure they apply for PR before then!

christmasoompa

True, but as it was described as a 'driving offence' I'd assume that means he was convicted of it.

UK28

For the 1st round of IEC do you need to submitt a ACPO or does that come later?

TeddiSam

Okay thank you! I will make sure they apply for PR before I turn 22 then

yeastery

Now is not the time for the ACRO check.
That comes later.

(although we can't be 100% sure until the program launches)

christmasoompa

When are you/they moving and when are you 22? As truck driver isn't a 'skilled' occupation, their only option to apply for PR is the Alberta PNP, and your father would need to have worked there for 6 months before applying, so it could be cutting it fine!

Just something to bear in mind.

JimmyArtnull

Driving offences, in general, aren't classed as a criminal record even if you are arrested for it. You would need to be arrested, charged and convicted in court of a (best way I can describe it) 'driving related crime' such as; drink driving, causing death or injury by dangerous driving, negligent driving etc. If he was arrested and not charged or just recieved a fixed penalty notice for a driving offence then he won't have a criminal record.

If you think he does have a criminal record from a conviction of any sorts and it is longer than 5 years since the conviction date then it is considered as spent and as flo-bee pointed out it will show as NO LIVE TRACE which the IEC is pretty flexible with for minor offenses from what I've heard.

I wouldn't worry.

Oh yeah, as someone pointed out, a caution also counts as a conviction these days too. Crazy! In my day a caution was nothing more than a verbal warning, now it's a bloody record!

TeddiSam

We are planning to move there in 6 weeks time and I am 22 in October, So he will have been working for 8 months. I think my parents will go before me though as i will have to wait here whilst applying for IEC.

christmasoompa

You know you can apply for IEC from Canada? But that's cool, just make sure they are ready to apply the minute he's done his 6 months work so that you have your PR application underway asap.

Good luck and have fun.

TeddiSam

I didn't realise I could apply from there! Everything I have read up on says I had to do it from here? Maybe I need to do some more research! haha.

Thank you for all the help!

BritishExpatriate

My understanding is that there's one set of rules for admission to Canada and these apply regardless of whether one's entering on the IEC, a different type of visa, or even as a visitor. The only exceptions are if you become a PR or if you naturalise as a Canadian citizen.

I think you're allowed a maximum of two summary offences and you can still be eligible to enter- one summary offence I'm pretty sure if nothing to worry about, whether it shows up on your ACRO certificate of not.

If anyone wants to check the detailed rules that currently apply concerning criminal inadmissibility to Canada, you can read up on it here:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/informa...s/5312ETOC.asp