[lmartin999]

Originally Posted by el_richo Is not tipping in the same league as choosing to fly Air Transhat or Thomas C*%t Airways?

Possibly, though not tipping is likely to lead to more jizz in your food if you eat out a lot.

[JamesM]

Originally Posted by lmartin999 Or anywhere that service is not included. I always tipped in the UK the same as I do here, though I note that many places tend to add 12.5%, presumably to deal with the cheapskates who would otherwise leave a pound coin.

I seem to remember a previous debate on this some weeks ago.

I did find it mildly cheeky when you and I were at St.Louis that evening and their machine had the option of 25% or other amount.

As a rule of thumb I work to the 10% average service and 15% good service. Depending on the rounding they might get slighly more or less.

Most of the bars I attend they look after me well with extra drinks etc..........

[jg2802]

This is probably going to offend some...and its a bit risky posting it. but i find it hillarious.

i work in a restaurant...in london. obviously tipping isnt a major culture here but people still know they should and english people pretty much always do. but being also in central london i too, also get some scummy ghetto horrific to deal with people as well as certain europeans that never tip.


http://www.igotstiffed.com/117/big-fat-ghetto-bitches/

[JamesM]

Here we are:

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showt...ht=tip+servers

Quite a good read. Poor Gremmie get's a hard time!

[Novocastrian]

Originally Posted by jg2802 This is probably going to offend some...and its a bit risky posting it. but i find it hillarious. i work in a restaurant...in london. obviously tipping isnt a major culture here but people still know they should and english people pretty much always do. but being also in central london i too, also get some scummy ghetto horrific to deal with people as well as certain europeans that never tip. http://www.igotstiffed.com/117/big-fat-ghetto-bitches/

God, that was much more than a sane person would bother reading.

But back on track: it is the case that tipping for table service is usually 15% (or 10% if you're pissed off) in Canada,

I much prefer the system in (e.g.) France, where service compris is the norm (these days),

[lmartin999]

Originally Posted by Novocastrian I much prefer the system in (e.g.) France, where service compris is the norm (these days),

I just much prefer France.

[JamesM]

Originally Posted by AishaA Maybe you all just tip because you're scared - From what you've told me, it sounds like bribery/blackmail.

Or maybe we tip because we are nice people and we want that person to be able to afford school, rent, groceries etc......

From what you've told me calling yourself a tight arsed Brit is flattering.

[jg2802]

Originally Posted by Novocastrian I much prefer the system in (e.g.) France, where service compris is the norm (these days),

it does make it easier. but its crap for the server because the restaurant usually takes most of it.

but its good in cases like london where you get your french, spanish, and italians who notoriously do not tip so at least youre getting something.

a certain big restaurant chain that has a restaurant in central london that a friend works at said they charge 12.5% on every bill and the server keeps 50% of that service charge on what their sales were. so tbh, £1500-2000 sales on a busy saturday night....id be happy with only half of that service charge compared to the amount of said french, spanish, italian...and of course not forgetting the 'big fat ghetto bitches' that i have to serve that dont tip.

[Largo]

Originally Posted by Novocastrian God, that was much more than a sane person would bother reading. But back on track: it is the case that tipping for table service is usually 15% (or 10% if you're pissed off) in Canada, I much prefer the system in (e.g.) France, where service compris is the norm (these days),

Agreed . Much simpler.

[mandymoochops]

Originally Posted by Oink I ordered a couple pizzas last night and had them delivered to a boat. The delivery lad negotiated a rather strange dock in the dark and actually found the boat and it only took 30 mins from the time of ordering. So did I give him a large tip, plus I was a bit pissed.

Good job he didn't work for the company that said they'd marry you f you give a big tip!

[ultrarunner]

Originally Posted by lmartin999 Because it is. And if you worry about it then you are a cheap bastard.

That's the best you can come up with....because it is?

Name calling is so low, and I won't bother waiting for your reply why restaurant is any different from a grocery store

[ultrarunner]

Originally Posted by dbd33 It doesn't matter why it's different. A potential customer knows that it's different, knows that the staff depend on the tip, knows that tipping is an obligation and would be a shit to eat and not tip.

It's a myth that they all depend on tips......so we are saying all restaurants don't pay their staff, and expect the public to pay the staff for them?

[ultrarunner]

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian I see that, once again, rather than accept that someone may have a different opinion to you, you resort to name calling.

He seems to do that a lot

Just saying "because it is" doesn't justify tipping. Grocery stores have packers that pack your back for you, isn't that "waiting on you"?

[ultrarunner]

Originally Posted by lmartin999 I just much prefer France.

I'll be more than happy to buy you the 1-way air canada ticket

[dbd33]

Originally Posted by ultrarunner It's a myth that they all depend on tips......so we are saying all restaurants don't pay their staff, and expect the public to pay the staff for them?

Yes, that's the nature of the business.

I'm somewhat baffled by this complaint about bodily fluids in the food. That suggests that someone didn't like a place sufficiently to defy convention and be deliberately offensive to the staff. They then went back often enough to be known as someone who cheats. Why do that?