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Old Dec 22nd 2010, 12:13 pm
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Originally Posted by Dorothy
Well I for one have asked numerous times for the name of your MARA registered agent and you have yet to address that. So, I will ask one more time...What is the name and MARN of your registered agent? I would like to be able to check his/her credentials before handing over money.
I sorry but the agent as well has the right to decide weather to reveal his/her details.
We can assure you AUSFIS uses reputable law firm to complete the assessments and have many customers who continue the process engaging the services of same law firm.
In case someone needs the contact the agent, he may register to AUSFIS services and complete the assessment.

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Originally Posted by Dana Smith
I sorry but the agent as well has the right to decide weather to reveal his/her details.
We can assure you AUSFIS uses reputable law firm to complete the assessments and have many customers who continue the process engaging the services of same law firm.
In case someone needs the contact the agent, he may register to AUSFIS services and complete the assessment.

Regards,
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What does he/she have to hide? If he or she prefers not to post their details on an open forum then he can send the information to me via private message here. As a potential customer I have a right to decide whether to give my personal details to a company without knowing who I'm dealing with.

You on one hand say your company is upfront and transparent, but on the other you refuse to provide anything to prove it.

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Originally Posted by Dana Smith
Hi Axe,
I hope you have also read my responses in this thread on top of the other one.
Even though that according to this website we do not have any credibility, AUSFIS does offer a legitimate service.
We are a pretty young company and therefore need any feedback we can in order to improve ourselves and that can come only from customers like you.
I apologize if you had a bad experience while using our services or speaking with one of our agents, however if you would like to do some good, I will leave you my e-mail in the end of this message and I really want you to send your details and complaint so we can handle it hear.
Trust me I will do my best in order to help.

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in IMMI website it has been clearly written not to seek help from non-MARA registered agents.
And what has young or experienced company do with so many complaints?
why are people being charged against their will?
why are people being asked for their credit card information even before other information is taken from them or your company works on.
and looking at your previous statement I strongly feel people should avoid. Mara themselves have posted all the registered agent id's on their website.

why was I provided with the agents number? I have already posted it earlier?

Once for all of us here either please put in the Registration number or stop claiming to be whatever you have been claiming in your previous posts.

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A legitimate MARA registered agent would be more than happy to have his or her details published on your site or mentioned on here. Only those who are not registered and who are trying to hide something would want their details kept private.
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Originally Posted by Dana Smith
I sorry but the agent as well has the right to decide weather to reveal his/her details.
We can assure you AUSFIS uses reputable law firm to complete the assessments and have many customers who continue the process engaging the services of same law firm.
In case someone needs the contact the agent, he may register to AUSFIS services and complete the assessment.

Regards,
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Australia uses migration agents, not lawyers.
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Originally Posted by Dana Smith
I sorry but the agent as well has the right to decide weather to reveal his/her details.
We can assure you AUSFIS uses reputable law firm to complete the assessments and have many customers who continue the process engaging the services of same law firm.
In case someone needs the contact the agent, he may register to AUSFIS services and complete the assessment.

Regards,
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I think you tell lies Dana or whatever your name is.

All Austrlaian agents are obliged to identify their places of business, such as contract affiliate offices. Any agent who does not identify their othger partners is only working at arms length, that is, the referring office such as Ausfis hands the whole case over to the agent and has no more contact with the client.

In your case, you charge a fee to get people to list their details so you can refer people to the agent.

That is taking money for nothing.

Given your desire to use any means possible to remove people's money for no real effort, I would think you sell the referrals to the agent too. Do you tell your clients that you are selling their details?

You ask for the feedback but you never improve the service or stop taking people's money when they did not clearly agree to use your service and demand a refund. Your behaviour has not changed after receiving so many complaints over several years.

You are not learning that your service is totally parasitic by nature and preys on people's hopes.

You have not replied to my earlier questions because the truth would embarrass you.
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Originally Posted by Jamie Smith

All Australian agents are obliged to identify their places of business, such as contract affiliate offices. Any agent who does not identify their other partners is only working at arms length, that is, the referring office such as Ausfis hands the whole case over to the agent and has no more contact with the client.

In your case, you charge a fee to get people to list their details so you can refer people to the agent.

That is taking money for nothing.

Given your desire to use any means possible to remove people's money for no real effort, I would think you sell the referrals to the agent too. Do you tell your clients that you are selling their details?

You ask for the feedback but you never improve the service or stop taking people's money when they did not clearly agree to use your service and demand a refund. Your behaviour has not changed after receiving so many complaints over several years.

You are not learning that your service is totally parasitic by nature and preys on people's hopes.

You have not replied to my earlier questions because the truth would embarrass you.
Sounds like a pretty good summing up of the situation.

I can't imagine any reason why a reputable agent would not be happy to have their name known - surely that is a major way of getting further business. Dana's constant refusal to tell people the name of the agent involved with a case is - to my mind - obstructive, and just plain wrong.

Equally, as you say Jamie, she is not responding to any questions about service standards, and even though this thread has been running for some time nothing about the company or its methods seems to have improved.

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This thread has been discussed several times by the moderating team and we allowed it to continue so that Dana, on behalf of the company, could respond to criticism and try to help some of the company's unfortunate clients. I for one am disappointed to see that its just going round in circles and in spite of repeated questions nothing has been resolved.
In fact, the only thing that seems to have been achieved is the removal of some of the outdated information about migration which made up the FAQ section, and its replacement with the totally unhelpful statement below:

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FAQ
We are in the process of changing the website to comply to the recent changes to the GSM visa changes but are still awaiting for most of the states to release their migration plans before any final updates are made.

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Speaking personally I wouldn't go near the company with a ten foot barge pole.
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Speaking personally I wouldn't go near the company with a ten foot barge pole.
And I wouldn't use your ten foot barge pole either...

Just in case poor old Dana/thingammy has got lost in the barrage of comments on this thread, I am repeating my earlier and still unanswered questions.

Hi Dana, or Danna as you sometimes sign yourself.

A few questions if you don't mind...

Ausfis is in fact AUSFIS INC. LTD which is registered through USPS Inc Ltd in Israel, registered by DSNR?

On various websites discussing DSNR / Ausfis/ USAFis, Dana Smith occasionally uses poor English, and mostly uses very good English. Is Dana one or two different people?

Is Smith your real name? Is Dana/Danna your real name? Were you also known as Michael Jons (Smith AND Jons?)

Ausfis.org is owned by DSNR? Do Ausfis and USAfis use DSNR call centres and systems?

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DSNR owns and operates two telemarketing Call Centers in Israel and utilize additional call centers in India. The Israeli call centers employs hundreds of agents, all speaking at least one foreign language and skilled for sales and services. The call centers are self-contained and perform all operations in-house including recruitment, training, skills development, communication and IT.


Please specify the training that these hundreds of agents " skilled for sales and services" in Australia's complex visa system, a system that is second in complexity to Australia's taxation laws.

Can you be reached on the US phone number +1-866-604-6385? That number is really a call forwarding virtual office isn't it, like the one in Melbourne? The US office is in fact based at Box 520 in the UPS store at that address on Broadway NY?.

Or are you based in Israel? In which case is this your address:

8 Hapnina Street, Ra’anana 43215, Israel, Phone: +972-9-762-6161, 762 6100, Fax: +972-9-762-6110

Or are you in Hyderabad, India?

Do you get tired of apologising for all the Ausfis and USAFis call centre people for whom you receive many complaints for being overly aggressive in sales?

Is this a true statement, lifted from the company's own comments placed in an online European service directory.

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We can assist you in the process with the assistance of a professional migration consultant from an experienced migration law firm www.AUSFIS.com.


To the best of my knowledge Ausfis is not a law firm and it is not registered in Australia?

This is in the terms and conditions of Ausfis web site

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In this respect Ausfis neither intends nor claim to provide Legal advice or solutions to individual's specific problems.


Please explain?

I note that around the middle of June you posted in an online forum that

Quote:
We do have ofices in Israel as well as in other countries. We do not have or had any gambling sites.


Your overseas offices are not manned by your own staff, rather they are virtual offices that redirect enquiries back to your call centres?

Many press releases from DSNR stated back in 2007 that DSNR had set up a casino online.

Why does your Immigration Services Division Manager specialise in CRM management and not immigration law?

Would it be fair to say that as DSNR owns about 122 other domain names, USAfis, AUSfis and DSNR are more in the business of call centre sales than genuine immigration work?

MARA agents in Australia are required by law to declare their business locations, none appear to list Ausfis or USAfis? I assume none work in your office.

Therefore you must send files to them for checking otherwise you cannot claim MARA agent involvement.

In order for your clients to be protected by the Australian laws that govern MARA agents, they should be informed about which agents you use.

Please name the MARA agents you work with, they seem not to want to list Ausfis as an affiliate to their own business for some reason.

Sorry to trouble you with all of these questions, but I think users of this forum have the right to know everything about you.

PS, why doesn't the USAfis website mention that only 1/100 lottery applicants ever win a US green card visa lottery? Do you think that taking $300 money from 99 people and earning $30,000 to assist one lucky winner is fair?
Merry Christmas everyone else.

Dana you should spend your holiday season writing your resignation. You have constantly and comprehensively failed to convince your colleagues to improve their service. Therefore your position is redundant.
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It seems clear to me that this company is not based or located in Australia and that the Australian government has nothing to do with regulating their behavior.

It's an unfortunate fact of life that people are gullible and are taken advantage of. That is what this umbrella of organizations seems to do.

I've been mostly concerned with watching usfis since I follow the US immigration forums. We don't see nearly as many people complaining about them, but we also have a fairly narrow set of visitors to this US immigration forum.
Sadly, most people who are researching the company come here or online at all, after they have been taken in. I wish we could help people be better consumers; here's an idea of the things I turned up this morning.

This is a discussion thread from the Facebook of the US Dept of State (they issue visas). Page 3 is especially interesting and has a load of links you might want to review.

What's funny about that thread is that Dana posted several replies and has deleted them all.
Why is that, Dana?

The US State Dept has this to say about the topic.
http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigra...es_1322.html#3

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Please Note: There have been instances of fraudulent websites posing as official U.S. Government sites. Some companies posing as the U.S. Government have sought money in order to "complete" lottery entry forms. There is no charge to download and complete the Electronic Diversity Visa Entry Form. The Department of State notifies successful Diversity Visa applicants by letter, and NOT by e-mail. To learn more see the Department of State Warning and the Federal Trade Commission Warning.

Tina has posted the Australian version of this:
Originally Posted by Tina7
Since September 29th, DIAC has a link on their homepage warning prospective visa applicants of fraudulent migration websites and agents. Might be worth a read.

http://www.immi.gov.au/migration-fra...e-informed.htm


There is NO FEE for entering the US Diversity Lottery. Of course, that is not what usfis is charging for; they are charging to help you make sure your 'application' is complete.
They do seem to be misleading people as to what that application is for, as some people were congratulated on their 'green card application'. Entry in the DV Lottery does not immediately result in a green card. It results in an application to try for a green card. USFIS' website and materials are misleading IMO.

Your best advice has already been posted in this thread.

Originally Posted by moneypenny20
In respect of AusFis, they can only really be called scammers if they take the money but do not actually assist people in getting visas. Yes they're taking money for something that anyone else can get for themselves cheaper but that's not scamming, that's providing an expensive service for people not prepared to do some research first. That's not illegal. I wouldn't use them and would tell people to avoid them at all costs but others may be happy to use the service.
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Hahaha I can't believe I actually fell for the scam. Bloody hell. :P
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If you s a legitimate company , Why do you call people after they have told you they dont want to deal with you .
Your company keeps phoning me even though I dont want to deal with you ?
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Re this article,
I saw this article and I wanted to share something with you.
A friend of mine recently used this organisation's services.
She said that she was very happy with the rep. everything was clear to her and because she didn't have the time to check everything out for herself, she paid them to do this for her. At the end of the day, she received the service she was promised and is now carrying on by herself. She wasn't overcharged, she knew what she was paying for and that's what she got.
BUT, she almost didn't start the process with them because of the huge headline she saw on google which was enough to frighten anyone.

The same thing happened to me years ago, when I wanted to join an entirely different company for something very different.
I really wanted to believe and join them, but read some very negative articles about them. Still I wanted to believe, I met them asked some questions and decided to go for it anyway.
Because I decided to go with my gut instinct, I decided to trust them and check for myself, my whole life would have been completely different, if I had listened to all the negativity.
MY MESSAGE IS THIS:
IF YOU HAVE A DREAM, DON'T LET NEGATIVE PEOPLE TAKE IT AWAY FROM YOU, SOME TIMES YOU JUST HAVE TO TAKE A CHANCE AND TRUST PEOPLE.
I wish you all the best. I can only speak for her experiences and maybe some other people had a bad experience, but I don't understand why something that happened 3years ago has such a huge headline.
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Originally Posted by vopxxx
Be warned of phone calls from AusFis demanding money!

I thought I should share with you that a friend of mine in the UK who has recently received multiple phone calls claimed to be from AusFis. From their website, it states AUSFIS is an organization offers you the opportunity to participate in the Australian skill migration program where you may be eligible for a permanent visa to live and work in Australia (see http://www.ausfis.org/Home.aspx)

He said that the people who called him sounds like American and Indian. They called him a few times on Sunday morning which I found abit odd and said to him that he has enough points and they will get him a temp Working visa easily even though he is 42, not highly skilled and they wanted him to pay USD219 immediately to process his application.

However, he did not part any money but ask the Agents a few more questions about 1) type of visa; 2) work assignment; 3) contract; 4) lock in period, etc.. but they have not replied to his queries to date.

Has any of you experienced or been through this process with AusFis before as they look fishy and a scam/fraud to me... it looks like that they try to put your hope up, take your money and run..

Would love to hear your thoughts....
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Re this article,
I saw this article and I wanted to share something with you.
A friend of mine recently used this organisation's services.
She said that she was very happy with the rep. everything was clear to her and because she didn't have the time to check everything out for herself, she paid them to do this for her. At the end of the day, she received the service she was promised and is now carrying on by herself. She wasn't overcharged, she knew what she was paying for and that's what she got.
BUT, she almost didn't start the process with them because of the huge headline she saw on google which was enough to frighten anyone.

The same thing happened to me years ago, when I wanted to join an entirely different company for something very different.
I really wanted to believe and join them, but read some very negative articles about them. Still I wanted to believe, I met them asked some questions and decided to go for it anyway.
Because I decided to go with my gut instinct, I decided to trust them and check for myself, my whole life would have been completely different, if I had listened to all the negativity.
MY MESSAGE IS THIS:
IF YOU HAVE A DREAM, DON'T LET NEGATIVE PEOPLE TAKE IT AWAY FROM YOU, SOME TIMES YOU JUST HAVE TO TAKE A CHANCE AND TRUST PEOPLE.
I wish you all the best. I can only speak for her experiences and maybe some other people had a bad experience, but I don't understand why something that happened 3years ago has such a huge headline.
vicky
In the words of Basil Fawlty - "Ä satisfied customer, we should have him stuffed". No offence meant but that would appear to be the first person on here who has been satisfied with the service........
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Re this article,
I saw this article and I wanted to share something with you.
A friend of mine recently used this organisation's services.
She said that she was very happy with the rep. everything was clear to her and because she didn't have the time to check everything out for herself, she paid them to do this for her. At the end of the day, she received the service she was promised and is now carrying on by herself. She wasn't overcharged, she knew what she was paying for and that's what she got.
BUT, she almost didn't start the process with them because of the huge headline she saw on google which was enough to frighten anyone.

The same thing happened to me years ago, when I wanted to join an entirely different company for something very different.
I really wanted to believe and join them, but read some very negative articles about them. Still I wanted to believe, I met them asked some questions and decided to go for it anyway.
Because I decided to go with my gut instinct, I decided to trust them and check for myself, my whole life would have been completely different, if I had listened to all the negativity.
MY MESSAGE IS THIS:
IF YOU HAVE A DREAM, DON'T LET NEGATIVE PEOPLE TAKE IT AWAY FROM YOU, SOME TIMES YOU JUST HAVE TO TAKE A CHANCE AND TRUST PEOPLE.
I wish you all the best. I can only speak for her experiences and maybe some other people had a bad experience, but I don't understand why something that happened 3years ago has such a huge headline.
vicky
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I'm Gee,27yrs.old & currently working in the #1 Duty Free in the world,Dubai..

First,i was amazed with the offer of AusFis regarding the non-skilled workers to migrate in Australia..so i logged on to their site&fill-in all the details but i stop when i saw that there is a payment of 169Euros but i already submitted all my contact #'s to this site..After 2days, I receive a phone call from them & telling me that they have to assess my applications but they can't push-through with it unless i paid the specified amount.I told them that as of now there is nothing in my account &they still said that they will not take anything from it without my consent.

To all of you there who's reading my post right now,"#1 lesson don't you ever give the last 3digits at the back of your credit card",,,because what happened to me is they told me,if i want,they will let their manager to talked to me if i'm doubtful&the highlight is they gonna give me manager's discount...so what happened is i pursued with filling up all the details..Their trying to tell me that they will not waste time talking to me if they are fraud and the numbers in my caller ID is only 4digits so i thought that maybe this is for real...they are trying to tell many stories of the residence here in Dubai who are living for many years but still can't get their citizenship but from them,only 4 years of living in Australia,you'll gonna get your citizenship&they asked if i have any Dependants,if i have any bachelor's degree,my English level,if how long i been working with my profession,and so on and so forth...And the last person whom i talked to is the one who's closing the deal,telling that their looking forward from me in Australia....then dropped the call....

when i run to my mobile,SMS said that they deduct Dirhams 740.07from my credit card by the company named: DSNR...and suddenly my whole world tumbled down...

I hold the certain amount they credited from me but the bank said that they can only do that for 15days...What you need to do if you ever encounter this kind of situation is immediately BLOCKED the card so they will not have future transactions with your credit card anymore.

They have my money now, but i believe in "Karma"...it will get back to them!!![/FONT]
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