How long before the UK turns Muslim?
Nov 6th 2009 | 4:25 pm
#1021
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 79,376
From: East Seaxe
Re: How long before the UK turns Muslim?
Coy... I couldn;t be bothered pasting them across but I have now..
Deport all the two million plus who are here illegally;
- Deport all those who commit crimes and whose original nationality was not British;
- Review all recent grants of residence or citizenship to ensure they are still appropriate;
- Offer generous grants to those of foreign descent resident here who wish to leave permanently;
- Stop all new immigration except for exceptional cases;
- Reject all asylum seekers who passed safe countries on their way to Britain.
Immigration is out of control. Britain’s population is now over 60 million and rising, solely due to immigration. Not only is Britain increasingly overcrowded, but the fact is that a country is the product of its people and if you change the people you inevitably change the nature of the country.
We want Britain to remain – or return to – the way it has traditionally been. We accept that Britain always will have ethnic minorities and have no problem with this as long as they remain minorities and do not change nor seek to change the fundamental culture and identity of the indigenous peoples of the British Isles.
The current open-door policy and unrestricted, uncontrolled immigration is leading to higher crime rates, demand for more housing (driving prices out of the reach of young people), severe extra strain on the environment, traffic congestion, longer hospital waiting lists, lower educational standards, higher income taxes, lower wages, higher unemployment, loss of British identity, a breakdown in community spirit, more restrictive policing, higher council taxes, a shortage of council homes, higher levels of stress and unhappiness and a more atomised society.
India would not tolerate millions of non-Indians taking over that society. Pakistan would not tolerate millions of Hindus or Christians entering that country and changing it from a Muslim society into something else. Japan would not do it; China would not do it – so why should Britain?
I think a lot of this is fair.....
This is the full link
http://bnp.org.uk/policies/immigration/
Deport all the two million plus who are here illegally;
- Deport all those who commit crimes and whose original nationality was not British;
- Review all recent grants of residence or citizenship to ensure they are still appropriate;
- Offer generous grants to those of foreign descent resident here who wish to leave permanently;
- Stop all new immigration except for exceptional cases;
- Reject all asylum seekers who passed safe countries on their way to Britain.
Immigration is out of control. Britain’s population is now over 60 million and rising, solely due to immigration. Not only is Britain increasingly overcrowded, but the fact is that a country is the product of its people and if you change the people you inevitably change the nature of the country.
We want Britain to remain – or return to – the way it has traditionally been. We accept that Britain always will have ethnic minorities and have no problem with this as long as they remain minorities and do not change nor seek to change the fundamental culture and identity of the indigenous peoples of the British Isles.
The current open-door policy and unrestricted, uncontrolled immigration is leading to higher crime rates, demand for more housing (driving prices out of the reach of young people), severe extra strain on the environment, traffic congestion, longer hospital waiting lists, lower educational standards, higher income taxes, lower wages, higher unemployment, loss of British identity, a breakdown in community spirit, more restrictive policing, higher council taxes, a shortage of council homes, higher levels of stress and unhappiness and a more atomised society.
India would not tolerate millions of non-Indians taking over that society. Pakistan would not tolerate millions of Hindus or Christians entering that country and changing it from a Muslim society into something else. Japan would not do it; China would not do it – so why should Britain?
I think a lot of this is fair.....
This is the full link
http://bnp.org.uk/policies/immigration/
Nov 6th 2009 | 4:40 pm
#1027
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Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 182
From: Mudgeeraba, Gold Coast
Re: How long before the UK turns Muslim?
bullsh.it
give up.....
I found it funny the way my grandad's used to say it...
Alf Garnett style...
Thanks for keeping my afternoon entertaining, I've put my points across, I maybe right, I maybe wrong but it's my opinion and I'm entitled to it.
Free speech ....
Last edited by humpy; Nov 6th 2009 at 4:43 pm.
Nov 6th 2009 | 4:46 pm
#1029
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Posts: 182
From: Mudgeeraba, Gold Coast
Re: How long before the UK turns Muslim?
Nov 6th 2009 | 4:52 pm
#1030
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Posts: 128
Re: How long before the UK turns Muslim?
I've noticed there is a lot of do-gooders on this forum who know everything.. I've held back some of my true feelings but no more, If I get removed for voicing my opinions and concerns then so be it, I have a life outside of this forum, some people obviously dont with the amount of posts they put on...
The town where I was born and spent 30 years living in (Dewsbury & Batley, they merge into each other) is a mess, I'll go through the reasons why it's such a mess and why I left, I'm not the only one who feels like this, I know at least 10 people who live in Australia who have moved out of my area and the main reason they state is because of the Pakistanis who have taken over the area. I have also received PM's from people who agree with what I say but dont want to put there name on the thread for fear of getting abused, I dont care anymore.. For the people who are commenting on what I put, have you ever lived in area which has been taken over and then over run by asian gangs, I dont think you can put a fair comment on if you havn't lived in a town similar to Dewsbury
What I will say now is, my experiences come from driving through the areas on a daily basis, working in there houses and seeing the problems there. I have also worked in heavily populated asian areas of Leeds & Bradford but I'm sure the problems I will talk about are common in Leicester, Burnley, Oldham and many more places throughout the UK
Some areas where they live look run down, they dont spend money on the externals of the property and it looks like a slum, it maybe better than what they were used to in Pakistan but it has lowered the prices down of local housing... My mate back home has tried to sell his house on the outskirts of Saville Town which is one of the heavily populated asian parts of Dewsbury, he can only sell to Asians, white people dont want to live there as it's too close to the Pakistani's, the Pakistanis know this so offer peanuts for the house, In the end my mate has had to accept a lower offer on his house, losing money but what choice did he have.
A lot of the areas have problems with rats, I've had rats and cockraoches run over my arms in cellars of a properties
, and have seen many in the gardens, they throw rubbish in the gardens, pour anything down the drain, Put animal remains in the bins, dont cover them up and rats get in, I've also seen round the back of curry houses and shops...
Most of the Pakistani's dont integrate, they dont want to, they have there own shops, there own butchers, bakers, basically the area is a mini Pakistan, they have no need to leave the area. They are always wanting there own schools, saying that white people dont accept them, absolute b.ollocks, its the other way round. They build extensions on the back of there houses without planning permission, when the council investigate they cry the poor tail saying that they cant afford to move, the council nearly always backs down or they will pull the racism card out.. They always try and do stuff on the cheap, I got asked all the time to do small jobs on the cheap for the,m whilst i worked for british gas. They think they are above the law for a lot of things, The police put a mobile road tax camera up several times a year on the main road thru the area, the locals say it's victimisation but it gets about 100 driver in a week who have no insurance or tax, some have been convicted off running 5 guys off the same licence..
There are always youths on the street corners whatever time of day, most dont work, claim benefits, An english pakistani may marry a girl from Pakistan, bring her over which is fine, she then brings all her family, more dole bludgers,.. none of the pakistani women work, they are baby machines so they can claim benefits, I used to see this and one asian lady admitted to me that this happened, she was westernised and hated that this happened but as she said, what can I do,
The biggest mosque in Europe is there, When the london bombings happened it was rumoured that some of it was planned inside here as one of the London bombers went to this mosque and the other bombers had visited it at some point. The police had to force access to search inside, the elders were very reluctant to let em in, the police had to use force in the end.
The youths drive round in very flash cars and I'm talking Ferraris, Porshes etc.. but dont work, when questioned they say they share it with 10 other guys, one local got done recently for money laundering, he owned a mansion and a few flash cars all from a car wash...
I had a Pakistani apprentice a couple of yrs ago, he told me that Saville Town was the biggest crack den in West Yorkshire, he said that the biggest drug dealers in West Yorkshire were asian and mainly from Dewsbury, they then opened up a company to front it all, usually a bed company.
When the petrol strike was on a few yrs ago, an asian owned petrol station put a sign up which he regretted. It said no white people will be served over the next few days, The national front turned up and wrecked the petrol station and attached shops. They play the racism card a lot, they have double standards, they can get away with being racist but turn it back on them and its wrong..
The area where they live is a no go area for whites, before you do-gooders comment on this, It is true, you've probably never been so cant comment. Put it this way Police patrol in 2's its that bad. 2 people have been attacked in the last week alone, unprovoked attacks, It's similar in the local town, white people get jeered and abused walking round, white girls get touched, there scared to walk around during a saturday shopping day.
We used to have a Woolworths, Marks & Spencers and other big name stores but nobody shops there anymore as it's full of every nationality but english, you name it, it's there, locals dont like it so go elsewhere, the big names have gone and the place is full of phone shops and pound shops. The town has lost its identity and it will only get worse.
Dewsbury used to be a nice place to live but no more, You could ask more than 80% of the white population if they could change one thing, first thing you would say is get rid of the pakistanis, they bring trouble. The place is over run with em now, they are taking over the town, there used to be areas that were all english areas but now Pakistani families are moving in gradually they are the only families on the street, it lowers the price of the houses as i've mentioned before. It gets to a point where white people move out of the area to avoid em, this is true, again I'm not making this up, this is what is happening.
I could go on all day about this subject and I know I'll get lots of abuse from you lot on here but I dont care anymore, I came to Australia to get out of the town, I feel for my family and friends who still live there, some are looking to get out and some already have, It makes my 2 Grandads sick to see what has happend to the market town they have spent 80 years in.
For those who are gonna comment on this, Let me ask you a few questions..
Where are you from ???
Has your town had an influx of immigrants over the past 20 years, we have had asylum seekers from Pakistan, Iraq, Iran, Albania, Bosnia, Poland, all dumped on us in past times ???
I think that this happens more common up North than down South as it's cheaper for goverment to house them.
England is on a spiral downwards, its gone past being repaired....
This could be last post on here but who cares................
The town where I was born and spent 30 years living in (Dewsbury & Batley, they merge into each other) is a mess, I'll go through the reasons why it's such a mess and why I left, I'm not the only one who feels like this, I know at least 10 people who live in Australia who have moved out of my area and the main reason they state is because of the Pakistanis who have taken over the area. I have also received PM's from people who agree with what I say but dont want to put there name on the thread for fear of getting abused, I dont care anymore.. For the people who are commenting on what I put, have you ever lived in area which has been taken over and then over run by asian gangs, I dont think you can put a fair comment on if you havn't lived in a town similar to Dewsbury
What I will say now is, my experiences come from driving through the areas on a daily basis, working in there houses and seeing the problems there. I have also worked in heavily populated asian areas of Leeds & Bradford but I'm sure the problems I will talk about are common in Leicester, Burnley, Oldham and many more places throughout the UK
Some areas where they live look run down, they dont spend money on the externals of the property and it looks like a slum, it maybe better than what they were used to in Pakistan but it has lowered the prices down of local housing... My mate back home has tried to sell his house on the outskirts of Saville Town which is one of the heavily populated asian parts of Dewsbury, he can only sell to Asians, white people dont want to live there as it's too close to the Pakistani's, the Pakistanis know this so offer peanuts for the house, In the end my mate has had to accept a lower offer on his house, losing money but what choice did he have.
A lot of the areas have problems with rats, I've had rats and cockraoches run over my arms in cellars of a properties
, and have seen many in the gardens, they throw rubbish in the gardens, pour anything down the drain, Put animal remains in the bins, dont cover them up and rats get in, I've also seen round the back of curry houses and shops...
Most of the Pakistani's dont integrate, they dont want to, they have there own shops, there own butchers, bakers, basically the area is a mini Pakistan, they have no need to leave the area. They are always wanting there own schools, saying that white people dont accept them, absolute b.ollocks, its the other way round. They build extensions on the back of there houses without planning permission, when the council investigate they cry the poor tail saying that they cant afford to move, the council nearly always backs down or they will pull the racism card out.. They always try and do stuff on the cheap, I got asked all the time to do small jobs on the cheap for the,m whilst i worked for british gas. They think they are above the law for a lot of things, The police put a mobile road tax camera up several times a year on the main road thru the area, the locals say it's victimisation but it gets about 100 driver in a week who have no insurance or tax, some have been convicted off running 5 guys off the same licence..
There are always youths on the street corners whatever time of day, most dont work, claim benefits, An english pakistani may marry a girl from Pakistan, bring her over which is fine, she then brings all her family, more dole bludgers,.. none of the pakistani women work, they are baby machines so they can claim benefits, I used to see this and one asian lady admitted to me that this happened, she was westernised and hated that this happened but as she said, what can I do,
The biggest mosque in Europe is there, When the london bombings happened it was rumoured that some of it was planned inside here as one of the London bombers went to this mosque and the other bombers had visited it at some point. The police had to force access to search inside, the elders were very reluctant to let em in, the police had to use force in the end.
The youths drive round in very flash cars and I'm talking Ferraris, Porshes etc.. but dont work, when questioned they say they share it with 10 other guys, one local got done recently for money laundering, he owned a mansion and a few flash cars all from a car wash...
I had a Pakistani apprentice a couple of yrs ago, he told me that Saville Town was the biggest crack den in West Yorkshire, he said that the biggest drug dealers in West Yorkshire were asian and mainly from Dewsbury, they then opened up a company to front it all, usually a bed company.
When the petrol strike was on a few yrs ago, an asian owned petrol station put a sign up which he regretted. It said no white people will be served over the next few days, The national front turned up and wrecked the petrol station and attached shops. They play the racism card a lot, they have double standards, they can get away with being racist but turn it back on them and its wrong..
The area where they live is a no go area for whites, before you do-gooders comment on this, It is true, you've probably never been so cant comment. Put it this way Police patrol in 2's its that bad. 2 people have been attacked in the last week alone, unprovoked attacks, It's similar in the local town, white people get jeered and abused walking round, white girls get touched, there scared to walk around during a saturday shopping day.
We used to have a Woolworths, Marks & Spencers and other big name stores but nobody shops there anymore as it's full of every nationality but english, you name it, it's there, locals dont like it so go elsewhere, the big names have gone and the place is full of phone shops and pound shops. The town has lost its identity and it will only get worse.
Dewsbury used to be a nice place to live but no more, You could ask more than 80% of the white population if they could change one thing, first thing you would say is get rid of the pakistanis, they bring trouble. The place is over run with em now, they are taking over the town, there used to be areas that were all english areas but now Pakistani families are moving in gradually they are the only families on the street, it lowers the price of the houses as i've mentioned before. It gets to a point where white people move out of the area to avoid em, this is true, again I'm not making this up, this is what is happening.
I could go on all day about this subject and I know I'll get lots of abuse from you lot on here but I dont care anymore, I came to Australia to get out of the town, I feel for my family and friends who still live there, some are looking to get out and some already have, It makes my 2 Grandads sick to see what has happend to the market town they have spent 80 years in.
For those who are gonna comment on this, Let me ask you a few questions..
Where are you from ???
Has your town had an influx of immigrants over the past 20 years, we have had asylum seekers from Pakistan, Iraq, Iran, Albania, Bosnia, Poland, all dumped on us in past times ???
I think that this happens more common up North than down South as it's cheaper for goverment to house them.
England is on a spiral downwards, its gone past being repaired....
This could be last post on here but who cares................
Or the problem with this group of people in that town ?
Why are you bothered by those women sitting at home as baby machines, it should be all Australians problems and we should vote for that ?
While there are many Non Pakistanis sitting at home to drink and have fun and they are machines for their entertainment, I appreciate the Australian goverment which opens the country for Multi-Culture environment, but the problem you need to understand is to accept the other.
Mentioning the rats and the dirty things we can see it everywhere in Europe and the states for Non-Pakistanis but Anglo-Saxon people.
So it is nothing to mention with the race or religion.You must know that the way you are not accepting other's culutre or religion should be the same with them
1- A woman covers head - Not accepted, in their culture a man who has green hair is strange and not accepted as well. But this could be normal for you and it is a personal interest and freedom, noone can even look at him. But the head cover.....!
2- If you came to live on this planet you should speak english like a native speaker and if you have problems you should be uneducated, not civilized and you should better live in another planet. While you may know nothing except one language and he may know 2 or 3. Weighting people with language is complete unfair while we should always advise anyone wants to live in an English speaking country that English is very important for his/her every day life. I met Italian (Anglo-Saxon) group of educated people who were in Singapore for tourism trip and they speak no single english word. As long as they were white they were accepted.
3- Having thier own schools, in their culture they have the religion principals as part of their study. While this is very strange in a country like Australia !!!!!, so they didn't request all citizens and residents to apply this rule because that's not fair and not logic, but at the same time they need to have it.
4- Getting mixed with culture, those people have their own belief which we need to respect as long as noone bothers me of anything, they believe that there is a purpose of life which is the other life (Nothing new here, it is in Bible (Just read it), Hindu,...etc any religion. While today there is a globalization away from religion and beliefs, for sure you will feel uncomfortable as he will not accept to drink wine while you will do.
5- So why those people left their homeland and migrate, they should stay at their place, actually those people didn't cross the border illegally and Australia's goverment know from where they are coming, so looking for better life in another place is not a shame like what the European did in the past while they were in the black ages (No Education, injustice, poorness) and they moved for occupation all over the world and Australia is one example. Pakistanis and others come only as immigrants.
6- I am not Pakistanis and I am not native english speaker as you can see my poor english, but I saw you pointing to race, religions, traditions and at the end it should be your own opinion.
Thanks
Romeo
Nov 6th 2009 | 5:53 pm
#1034
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Nov 6th 2009 | 6:11 pm
#1035
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Re: How long before the UK turns Muslim?
Sure, but its unusual as a child to think that your fathers views are sickening. You may grow up to think that but kids usually believe everything their parents tell them.
