[Pisces]

My parents in SA keep their retirement money overseas. Someone, at the Post office I assume, intercepted their mail from their bank and managed to transfer a large amount of money out of their account. My parents would not have known for a while, luckily the bank sent them a bill requesting them to pay the transfer fees. Apparently whoever managed to intercept their mail went and got copies of their signatures and details of the birth dates etc, from accomplices working in banks and other institutions in SA. Really scarey time for them as they are in their 70's.

[Stanley10]

Originally Posted by Pablo That's your man. Except it wasn't rape, according to some, because when she said "no" she really meant "yes" -- and apparently it's a cultural thing in Zulu culture to give one to a vulnerable young house guest with hiv.

Yep, the some would include the judge, who actually listened to all the evidence and decided that consensual sex had taken place. Nothing to do with Zulu culture at all, just evidence. Pabs if you know something the judge didn't know or hear, perhaps you could share it with us. Just because you repeat an assertion continually does not make it true, in fact it sounds like sour grapes.

Pretty much puts you in the same league as the youth league etc, a judgement doesn't go your way, well the judge got it wrong, screw the judge.

[Pablo]

Pretty much puts you in the same league as the youth league etc, a judgement doesn't go your way, well the judge got it wrong, screw the judge.

Yes, I think Zuma was guilty, and I make no bones about that fact. Difference is, I don't call for blood on the streets or for judges to be killed. You seem to confuse the legal process. Hardly surprising, since you confuse everything. Finding someone "not guilty" is not the same as finding them innocent.

You want to believe that the young woman would consent to sex with a fat old adulterous pig like Zuma, then go ahead. I don't.

I also think Zuma is dishonest and corrupt, and not a fit person to be in public office. If he had any honour about him, or any commitment to public service or to the common good, he would stand down. But of course he won't stand down. All he wants is power. He'll do to South Africa what he did to that poor young hiv+ girl.

[Stanley10]

Originally Posted by Pablo Yes, I think Zuma was guilty, and I make no bones about that fact. Difference is, I don't call for blood on the streets or for judges to be killed.

Yes, but the similarity is that you show contempt for the South African judicial system.

Originally Posted by Pablo You seem to confuse the legal process. Hardly surprising, since you confuse everything.

Once again playing the man

Originally Posted by Pablo Finding someone "not guilty" is not the same as finding them innocent.

From the judgement:
"From the aforegoing it should be clear that I find that consensual sex took place between the complainant and the accused in the main bedroom."

So the judge says that there was no rape, only consensual sex.

Originally Posted by Pablo You want to believe that the young woman would consent to sex with a fat old adulterous pig like Zuma, then go ahead. I don't.

I think I have raised the issue of Hugh Hefner's playmates before, and I don't understand that either, yet it happens.

Originally Posted by Pablo he did to that poor young hiv+ girl.

What the judge had to say about that poor young girl

"From the aforegoing it is clear that the probabilities show that the complainant's evidence cannot be accepted. She is a strong person well in control of herself knowing what she wants. She is definitely not that meek, mild and submissive person she was made out to be."

You still haven't answered my question Pabs, do you know something the judge didn't?

[Kitten24]

Originally Posted by Stanley10 Yes, but the similarity is that you show contempt for the South African judicial system. Once again playing the man From the judgement: "From the aforegoing it should be clear that I find that consensual sex took place between the complainant and the accused in the main bedroom." So the judge says that there was no rape, only consensual sex. I think I have raised the issue of Hugh Hefner's playmates before, and I don't understand that either, yet it happens. What the judge had to say about that poor young girl "From the aforegoing it is clear that the probabilities show that the complainant's evidence cannot be accepted. She is a strong person well in control of herself knowing what she wants. She is definitely not that meek, mild and submissive person she was made out to be." You still haven't answered my question Pabs, do you know something the judge didn't?

PMSL!! Nobody in their right minds could compare Zuma to Hugh Hefner!!!!

[Stanley10]

Originally Posted by Kitten24 PMSL!! Nobody in their right minds could compare Zuma to Hugh Hefner!!!!

Not comparing the 2, just don't understand why 3 young woman would be happy to share an 82 year old man. Must be the true love. (surely not for money )

[Kitten24]

Originally Posted by Stanley10 Not comparing the 2, just don't understand why 3 young woman would be happy to share an 82 year old man. Must be the true love. (surely not for money )

1. He's still got plenty of sex appeal for a man his age and he is still in good shape.
2. The money.
3. Lifestyle.
4. The opportunities (Many girls go on to be actresses or models).

Besides all the pretense he only really sleeps with one of the girls, his main squeeze Holly. So there's no real sharing involved.

I can't think of any pro's to being with Mr Zuma. (I wont make the obvious comment about is lack of looks and his physique). If it's money we are discussing then there is no comparison there either.

[Daxk]

He certainly seems to have a machinegun.

"Newspapers have already started speculating about which of Zuma's wives will be the official first lady should he become president of the country.

Besides Sizakele and Nompumelelo, Zuma is also in the process of paying lobola for Thobeka Stacey Mabhija, 35, with whom he has two children.

In 1998 he divorced Foreign Affairs Minister Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma, with whom he has four daughters. His other wife, Kate, committed suicide in 2000. They had five children.

Both Sizakele and Nompumelelo said it was up to their husband to decide who would be first lady, but they were willing to support him in any capacity."

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_i... 244769C301201
Should he become Pres will we need to have 4 Presidential Jets?
The additional Traffic from 3 more Flying Columns of Black Mercs and BMW's all with Flashing lights are scary enough.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by Stanley10 Yes, but...

The usual string of irrelevancies, Stanley. You have swapped one slavish adherence to the party line for another. This is so typical of a certain type of South African.

[Stanley10]

Originally Posted by Daxk Should he become Pres will we need to have 4 Presidential Jets? The additional Traffic from 3 more Flying Columns of Black Mercs and BMW's all with Flashing lights are scary enough.

No, the traditional wives can use traditional transport.

[Stanley10]

Originally Posted by Pablo The usual string of irrelevancies, Stanley. You have swapped one slavish adherence to the party line for another.

I'm still waiting for an answer to my question Pabs, I'm starting to suspect that you don't have one, and it is your prejudice that is driving you to make such statements.

Originally Posted by Pablo You have swapped one slavish adherence to the party line for another.

I'm questioning your line here Pabs, same as I question any other, only you don't appear to have any answers. (see above)

Originally Posted by Pablo This is so typical of a certain type of South African.

Which type would that be?

[Daxk]

Originally Posted by Stanley10 No, the traditional wives can use traditional transport.

Black Toyota Hi-Ace?

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by Stanley10 I'm still waiting for an answer to my question

What is the question for which you are still awaiting an answer?

[Stanley10]

Originally Posted by Pablo What is the question for which you are still awaiting an answer?

Hmm...... so you can post without insulting, excellent.
My question was do you know something that the judge didn't?

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by Stanley10 My question was do you know something that the judge didn't?

Your question is absurd. It presupposes I have some privileged access to the judge's mind. Like so much that you post here, it is designed merely to deceive.

However, it is safe to assume that the judge did not have access to knowledge of Zuma's, and the victim's, subsequent history.