Missing 3 yr old, Praia da Luz

TanyaN · May 15th 2007, 10:21 pm

I think it might be a healthy option to close this thread.

This whole issue reminds me of that paedophile hysteria a few years ago when a bunch of council estate residents attacked a professional's home (think it was a paediatrician) because they didn't know the difference.

A journalist interviewed a woman who was part of the mob and asked her if she had children. She replied she had, 3 under the age of 10. It was late at night so he asked her where they were and she just looked stunned because it was obvious she had no idea.

I would therefore suggest that people mind their own business and clean up their own lives rather than living through someone else's tragedy.

TouristTrap · May 15th 2007, 10:24 pm

Spoke to me ma earlier and she says the parents look like they've lost tons of weight - feel so sorry for them. I dropped my kids off at the water park earlier and can't imagine not having them come home to me.

derbyflan · May 15th 2007, 10:28 pm

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Originally Posted by maria-gualtar

Hmm, and they dont seem too upset anymore........These people should be prosecuted....

*Cough! ARSE! *Cough!

KarmaLiber · May 15th 2007, 10:53 pm

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Originally Posted by maria-gualtar

Hmm, and they dont seem too upset anymore. My son was joined to the hip until he was of an age of sense. Even then, we only stayed in hotels with monitoring systems, babysitters or have him with us.
Why wont someone have the guts to say something? These people should be prosecuted. They should stop using the limited resources of the Portuguese police and use their own money and a PI.
The only person I feel sorry for is little Maddie. Hope she is well and happy.

Don't begrudge Madeleine the Police resources, i'm sure the Police can decide better than anyone on how they need to deploy their resources, and without prejudice.

KarmaLiber · May 15th 2007, 11:04 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by TanyaN

I think it might be a healthy option to close this thread.

This whole issue reminds me of that paedophile hysteria a few years ago when a bunch of council estate residents attacked a professional's home (think it was a paediatrician) because they didn't know the difference.

A journalist interviewed a woman who was part of the mob and asked her if she had children. She replied she had, 3 under the age of 10. It was late at night so he asked her where they were and she just looked stunned because it was obvious she had no idea.

I would therefore suggest that people mind their own business and clean up their own lives rather than living through someone else's tragedy.

It never ceases to amaze me

- you need to re-read your e-mail because you appear to be talking about yourself, and not only that you are serial

Please do not be offended - but you're right i think that this thread has lost a positive momentum, I think at the bottom of it is that everyone is pretty upset for Madeleine.
Then again, it will pretty sad if the thread designed to support the search for Madeleine is closed.

Can't we all call a truce and declare are allegiance to finding Madeleine ?

Karma

JenJen · May 16th 2007, 10:19 am

TOP PRIORITY IS FINDING MADDIE

SAVE YOUR BLAMES AND STONE THROWING FOR ANOTHER TIME AND PLACE.

Everyone has nw said their peice on how they feel about the situation so do we need to drag it out.
Everyoneis entitled to their own opinion but I think it becomes very self centred when attacks etc are re-played over and over and over again.

GOd I hope that she's ok. poor little love

Jen

TaviraTrog · May 16th 2007, 10:41 am

Hear, hear. All this acrimony does no good at all. If anything it just contributes to what the British press are trying to do with all their muck raking

Gallaghers · May 16th 2007, 10:49 am

WELL SAID JENJEN.

Can we all try and keep positive for the outcome for little Madeleine and her family, now is not the time for blame. Somewhere there is a little girl wanting her mummy and daddy and the rest of her family.

I hope and pray this little girl is found safe and well, and send my best wishes to all of her family.

maria-gualtar · May 16th 2007, 4:17 pm

Well, not quite a newbie at forums but thx anyway. All i said was the Mc Canns should now use their own resources, since the fault of the disappearance lies at their feet. I live in Braga and have mostly Portuguese friends,thank God no whinging pommies!!!! Talking with them, reading local press and watching portuguese TV gives a whole new angle. They are angry because there has been many Portuguese kids go missing over the years and resources have not been poured into finding them. This is a PR exercise for the benefit of the tourism industry. Get real.

Loiner · May 16th 2007, 4:29 pm

Yes this occured to me the other day. I thought I wonder if this amount of resources would have been expended on a portugese child. the government are probably very worried about future tourism etc.

Ka Ora! · May 16th 2007, 4:54 pm

Much that i wish that maddie could be returned to her mun and dad. this thread has become quite an unhealthy form of discussion and introduction to newbies it seems that to many new users are posting in here and other threads related to the subject with the intent of causing outcry. This is not on. we are a fine band and have our petty disputes in the appropriate place. As i see it one of the biggest problems other than the fact that maddie is gone is the manner in which the media are covering this. Did we really need to know that robert was sleeping with some one who was living with another partner. Destroying peoples lives in the quest for 5 minutes of news is not on this could of happened in anyones backyard a lot of damage is being done.

I think that all further discussion should be moved into a premoderated Forum or if possible turn this thread into a Premoderated thread i do belive you can do that with Joomla.

**Sue** · May 16th 2007, 4:59 pm

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Originally Posted by Ka Ora!

I think that all further discussion should be moved into a premoderated Forum or if possible turn this thread into a Premoderated thread i do belive you can do that with Joomla.

This discussion board is not joomla.

Ka Ora! · May 16th 2007, 5:01 pm

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Originally Posted by Sue

This discussion board is not joomla.

Ok my mistake last time it got taken off line i got a joomla welcome when it came on again. but the rest of it stands

JenJen · May 16th 2007, 5:37 pm

OK I do agree that EVERY abducted and missing child be it English, portugese, french, german american, australian, blah blah blah should be entitled to the same amount of effort and my heart goes out to those families whose children have been gone a long time and it must be so frustrating if they didn't get as much help as the McCann's.
I want Maddie found, but I want every parent to have their child back

I don't know or understand how this fighting fund works but if it's the public nad celebrities etc puttign money into a fund to allow them to stay out there without having to use their own money I have to say I think thats a little out of order IMO, I think it's fair to put money in to assist with hiring a private investigator and I would out money in for any child that was missing but I do not want to put money in so they can pay expenses to stay out there as I don't believe that will directly affect wether Maddie is brought back to them or not.

Jen

maria-gualtar · May 16th 2007, 10:09 pm

Well said Jenjen. I agree what use is of the Mc Cann parents to be in Luz? Maddie is probably well gone from portugal and probably europe at this stage, Surely they should for the sake of their little twins try and return to some sort of normality? They should be using the money to hire a hit team of PIs, former detectives, whatever. I am sure they are out there. I know some Portuguese cops and they admit they are not trained to deal with this sort of situation. British cops are, as lets face it, many of us has left Britain for our kids, in the belief they are in a safer country.
I hate to say it but I bet you Luz and surrounding areas will really be hit badly regarding tourism. Speaking with my friend in an Estate Agency down there and he told me that he has lost three house sales in the past two weeks.
The impact this will have on the area really will show in the coming months/years. All this due to one night of carelessness. Anyone thought about the people who rely on tourism for their livlihoods in the area? portugal is not exactly the richest country in the EU. I still say the Mc Canns need to take a long hard look at what trouble and upset they have caused many thousands of people.
BTW, it does not matter if I am new to this forum or not. I think I am stating what many people are frightened to say. People are frightened not to be popular in life, so like sheep they follow. Heads down, etc. Time to get realistic about all of this.
The Portuguese authorities have an inferiority complex. They are frightened to stop. Britain is one of their main sources of income. Well I wish they held back thier resources for their own people and tell the Mc Canns to go and spend the relief funds. My heart is with Maddy, not her parents, who thought more of themselves than they did their children.

May 15th 2007, 10:21 pm	#181
TanyaN Forum Regular Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 85	Re: Missing 3 yr old, Praia da Luz I think it might be a healthy option to close this thread. This whole issue reminds me of that paedophile hysteria a few years ago when a bunch of council estate residents attacked a professional's home (think it was a paediatrician) because they didn't know the difference. A journalist interviewed a woman who was part of the mob and asked her if she had children. She replied she had, 3 under the age of 10. It was late at night so he asked her where they were and she just looked stunned because it was obvious she had no idea. I would therefore suggest that people mind their own business and clean up their own lives rather than living through someone else's tragedy.

May 15th 2007, 10:24 pm	#182
TouristTrap Account Closed	Re: Missing 3 yr old, Praia da Luz Spoke to me ma earlier and she says the parents look like they've lost tons of weight - feel so sorry for them. I dropped my kids off at the water park earlier and can't imagine not having them come home to me.

May 16th 2007, 10:19 am	#186
JenJen Account Closed	Re: Missing 3 yr old, Praia da Luz TOP PRIORITY IS FINDING MADDIE SAVE YOUR BLAMES AND STONE THROWING FOR ANOTHER TIME AND PLACE. Everyone has nw said their peice on how they feel about the situation so do we need to drag it out. Everyoneis entitled to their own opinion but I think it becomes very self centred when attacks etc are re-played over and over and over again. GOd I hope that she's ok. poor little love Jen

May 16th 2007, 10:41 am	#187
TaviraTrog C'est la vie Joined: Mar 2007 Location: Tavira Posts: 3,649	Re: Missing 3 yr old, Praia da Luz Hear, hear. All this acrimony does no good at all. If anything it just contributes to what the British press are trying to do with all their muck raking

May 16th 2007, 10:49 am	#188
Gallaghers Forum Regular Joined: May 2007 Posts: 44	Re: Missing 3 yr old, Praia da Luz WELL SAID JENJEN. Can we all try and keep positive for the outcome for little Madeleine and her family, now is not the time for blame. Somewhere there is a little girl wanting her mummy and daddy and the rest of her family. I hope and pray this little girl is found safe and well, and send my best wishes to all of her family.

May 16th 2007, 4:17 pm	#189
maria-gualtar Just Joined Joined: May 2007 Posts: 5	Re: Missing 3 yr old, Praia da Luz Well, not quite a newbie at forums but thx anyway. All i said was the Mc Canns should now use their own resources, since the fault of the disappearance lies at their feet. I live in Braga and have mostly Portuguese friends,thank God no whinging pommies!!!! Talking with them, reading local press and watching portuguese TV gives a whole new angle. They are angry because there has been many Portuguese kids go missing over the years and resources have not been poured into finding them. This is a PR exercise for the benefit of the tourism industry. Get real.

May 16th 2007, 4:29 pm	#190
Loiner Forum Regular Joined: Feb 2007 Location: Leeds Posts: 120	Re: Missing 3 yr old, Praia da Luz Yes this occured to me the other day. I thought I wonder if this amount of resources would have been expended on a portugese child. the government are probably very worried about future tourism etc.

May 16th 2007, 4:54 pm	#191
Ka Ora!	Re: Missing 3 yr old, Praia da Luz Much that i wish that maddie could be returned to her mun and dad. this thread has become quite an unhealthy form of discussion and introduction to newbies it seems that to many new users are posting in here and other threads related to the subject with the intent of causing outcry. This is not on. we are a fine band and have our petty disputes in the appropriate place. As i see it one of the biggest problems other than the fact that maddie is gone is the manner in which the media are covering this. Did we really need to know that robert was sleeping with some one who was living with another partner. Destroying peoples lives in the quest for 5 minutes of news is not on this could of happened in anyones backyard a lot of damage is being done. I think that all further discussion should be moved into a premoderated Forum or if possible turn this thread into a Premoderated thread i do belive you can do that with Joomla.

May 16th 2007, 5:37 pm	#194
JenJen Account Closed	Re: Missing 3 yr old, Praia da Luz OK I do agree that EVERY abducted and missing child be it English, portugese, french, german american, australian, blah blah blah should be entitled to the same amount of effort and my heart goes out to those families whose children have been gone a long time and it must be so frustrating if they didn't get as much help as the McCann's. I want Maddie found, but I want every parent to have their child back I don't know or understand how this fighting fund works but if it's the public nad celebrities etc puttign money into a fund to allow them to stay out there without having to use their own money I have to say I think thats a little out of order IMO, I think it's fair to put money in to assist with hiring a private investigator and I would out money in for any child that was missing but I do not want to put money in so they can pay expenses to stay out there as I don't believe that will directly affect wether Maddie is brought back to them or not. Jen

May 16th 2007, 10:09 pm	#195
maria-gualtar Just Joined Joined: May 2007 Posts: 5	Re: Missing 3 yr old, Praia da Luz Well said Jenjen. I agree what use is of the Mc Cann parents to be in Luz? Maddie is probably well gone from portugal and probably europe at this stage, Surely they should for the sake of their little twins try and return to some sort of normality? They should be using the money to hire a hit team of PIs, former detectives, whatever. I am sure they are out there. I know some Portuguese cops and they admit they are not trained to deal with this sort of situation. British cops are, as lets face it, many of us has left Britain for our kids, in the belief they are in a safer country. I hate to say it but I bet you Luz and surrounding areas will really be hit badly regarding tourism. Speaking with my friend in an Estate Agency down there and he told me that he has lost three house sales in the past two weeks. The impact this will have on the area really will show in the coming months/years. All this due to one night of carelessness. Anyone thought about the people who rely on tourism for their livlihoods in the area? portugal is not exactly the richest country in the EU. I still say the Mc Canns need to take a long hard look at what trouble and upset they have caused many thousands of people. BTW, it does not matter if I am new to this forum or not. I think I am stating what many people are frightened to say. People are frightened not to be popular in life, so like sheep they follow. Heads down, etc. Time to get realistic about all of this. The Portuguese authorities have an inferiority complex. They are frightened to stop. Britain is one of their main sources of income. Well I wish they held back thier resources for their own people and tell the Mc Canns to go and spend the relief funds. My heart is with Maddy, not her parents, who thought more of themselves than they did their children.

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