[noni]

http://www.navhindtimes.in/goa-news/...security-force

Govt to disband Tourist Security Force

[noni]

El-Shadaai’s SCAN not to come under Goa police scanner
11 May: Herald. Goa police have flatly refused to investigate NGO, Stop Child Abuse Now ( SCAN) though caretakers at Apna Ghar have openly criticized it for being an important loop in the nexus case


Goa voted most relaxed tourist destination in the world
11 May: PTI. Popular for its beaches and unique architecture, Goa has been voted as the most valued and relaxed tourist destination of the world. Readers of 'Lonely Planet' magazine voted Goa as the 'best value destination in India' and the 'best destination for relaxation', the state tourism said in a release issued in Mumbai… [Ed: Misleading headline. From magazine's website: "All is not perfect in paradise, however, and Goa has problems aplenty


www.goanvoice.org.uk

[noni]

Intra-Bric bonding leaves Goans irked
15 May: Financial Times (UK). By James Crabtree. … Russian tourists have overtaken the British as the leading visitor group to Goa, More than 100,000 are thought to have arrived this year to escape the icy Siberian winter but not everyone is happy. Goans are generally an easy-going lot, but it isn’t hard to find locals muttering unhappily about the lewd behaviour, skimpy bathing suits and non-existent English of their newest holidaymakers. Local politicians, meanwhile, mutter about foreigners muscling in land deals, while Goan newspapers run racy stories about shadowy Russian mafia influences pushing drugs and prostitution

www.goanvoice.org.uk

[noni]

www.goanvoice.org.uk

A summer's day: Goans flock to beaches

15 May: Times of India. It's summertime and Goans are headed to the beaches for a 'mudans' (change) from the routine of life. The queen of beaches Calangute is the most preferred destination for a number of reasons, not least because of the constant excitement in the air… "They usually bathe in the mornings and evenings," says a lifeguard. "They're not like the other tourists who jump into the water at anytime of the day…

[Veritas1]

Courtesy of Goa News: Special Status for Goa ruled out

http://www.goanews.com/news_disp.php?newsid=2176

[a_f_d]

Originally Posted by Veritas1 Courtesy of Goa News: Special Status for Goa ruled out http://www.goanews.com/news_disp.php?newsid=2176

This seems to be the 'financial aid' special status not the 'land ownership - needs Constitutional amendment' special status.

AndyD 8-)₹

[wheatsheaf]

Originally Posted by noni www.goanvoice.org.uk A summer's day: Goans flock to beaches 15 May: Times of India. It's summertime and Goans are headed to the beaches for a 'mudans' (change) from the routine of life. The queen of beaches Calangute is the most preferred destination for a number of reasons, not least because of the constant excitement in the air… "They usually bathe in the mornings and evenings," says a lifeguard. "They're not like the other tourists who jump into the water at anytime of the day…

Was in Calangute and on the beach several times. My own detailed survey came up with only 5 Goans (two adults with 3 children under eight years) on the whole stretch from Baga to Calangute tourist hotel. The rest were thousands of local out of state visitors, malnourished cows, and one frothing black ram that limped up and down the Calangute steps at the "rotunda", which itself reeks of urine all day n night. Spittle, plastic bags, beer bottles equaled the number of tourists. No longer the "queen of beaches".

[noni]

Originally Posted by wheatsheaf Was in Calangute and on the beach several times. My own detailed survey came up with only 5 Goans (two adults with 3 children under eight years) on the whole stretch from Baga to Calangute tourist hotel. The rest were thousands of local out of state visitors, malnourished cows, and one frothing black ram that limped up and down the Calangute steps at the "rotunda", which itself reeks of urine all day n night. Spittle, plastic bags, beer bottles equaled the number of tourists. No longer the "queen of beaches".

Agree with you 100%. It is the out of state indians who are the dirty ones. The rude ones are the Mumbai/Delhi elite the ones with wads of mummy and daddy's rupees out to impress their "lady" friends.

[Bipat]

Originally Posted by noni Agree with you 100%. It is the out of state indians who are the dirty ones. The rude ones are the Mumbai/Delhi elite the ones with wads of mummy and daddy's rupees out to impress their "lady" friends.

Can you explain Noni why the behaviour you describe is only for the most part seen in North Goa? Not so much South Goa.

Also not Kerala, not Chennai beaches.

Not at all on nearby Karwar's famous beach, where every one is "out of state Indian".

Could it be the temptation of the abundant alcohol and example of the free behaviour of the multiple foreign tourists?

[stevebenaulim]

Originally Posted by Bipat Can you explain Noni why the behaviour you describe is only for the most part seen in North Goa? Not so much South Goa. Also not Kerala, not Chennai beaches. Not at all on nearby Karwar's famous beach, where every one is "out of state Indian". Could it be the temptation of the abundant alcohol and example of the free behaviour of the multiple foreign tourists?

Ive lived in South Goa 14 years, and yes ive seen it many times.
Savages.

[Bipat]

Originally Posted by stevebenaulim Ive lived in South Goa 14 years, and yes ive seen it many times. Savages.

I said "not so much South Goa". I wouldn't even think of taking my respectable Indian relatives or friend guests to North Goa, but they happily visit Varca or Palolem and other South places.

[wheatsheaf]

Originally Posted by Bipat Can you explain Noni why the behaviour you describe is only for the most part seen in North Goa? Not so much South Goa. Also not Kerala, not Chennai beaches. Not at all on nearby Karwar's famous beach, where every one is "out of state Indian". Could it be the temptation of the abundant alcohol and example of the free behaviour of the multiple foreign tourists?

Sorry Noni, but I am jumping in and replying to Bipat:

It is probably because of the publicity North Goa receives in the rest of India projecting the image erotic abandon, freedom and a local Goan population willing to sell their souls for a depreciating rupee. Ive also come across an element of envy which easily fuels bad behaviour. South Goa on the other hand has reacted to bad behaviour matching it with severe treatment of abusers, and it has always had the reputation of not compromising with poor attitudes even with the risk that comes with being overwhelmed in numbers. Word of mouth, cheap telephone access, the Indian tendency to embellish, and the total absence of any contra movement by local Goans in North Goa doesnt help. In fact, I am surprised by the latest movement of local Goans in North Goa, into hinterland villages where they themselves hope to to get away from the mess which is enriching them. There will come a time, sooner than later, when real Goans will be applying for UK residency when there is no where to hide from the crap.

[stevebenaulim]

Originally Posted by wheatsheaf Sorry Noni, but I am jumping in and replying to Bipat: It is probably because of the publicity North Goa receives in the rest of India projecting the image erotic abandon, freedom and a local Goan population willing to sell their souls for a depreciating rupee. Ive also come across an element of envy which easily fuels bad behaviour. South Goa on the other hand has reacted to bad behaviour matching it with severe treatment of abusers, and it has always had the reputation of not compromising with poor attitudes even with the risk that comes with being overwhelmed in numbers. Word of mouth, cheap telephone access, the Indian tendency to embellish, and the total absence of any contra movement by local Goans in North Goa doesnt help. In fact, I am surprised by the latest movement of local Goans in North Goa, into hinterland villages where they themselves hope to to get away from the mess which is enriching them. There will come a time, sooner than later, when real Goans will be applying for UK residency when there is no where to hide from the crap.

Already happening many getting into the UK, on the back of Portugese passports, standing room only.

[wheatsheaf]

Originally Posted by stevebenaulim Already happening many getting into the UK, on the back of Portugese passports, standing room only.

"portuguese passports" is yet another comedy......no one knows what the numbers are of people with no Goan background whatsoever who have taken on or usurped goan identities as a means of obtaining access into EEC.

[noni]

Originally Posted by wheatsheaf Sorry Noni, but I am jumping in and replying to Bipat: It is probably because of the publicity North Goa receives in the rest of India projecting the image erotic abandon, freedom and a local Goan population willing to sell their souls for a depreciating rupee. Ive also come across an element of envy which easily fuels bad behaviour. South Goa on the other hand has reacted to bad behaviour matching it with severe treatment of abusers, and it has always had the reputation of not compromising with poor attitudes even with the risk that comes with being overwhelmed in numbers. Word of mouth, cheap telephone access, the Indian tendency to embellish, and the total absence of any contra movement by local Goans in North Goa doesnt help. In fact, I am surprised by the latest movement of local Goans in North Goa, into hinterland villages where they themselves hope to to get away from the mess which is enriching them. There will come a time, sooner than later, when real Goans will be applying for UK residency when there is no where to hide from the crap.

Totally agree with you Wheat! The North probably attracts these types of Indians as it has more "night life" When we started going to the North, it was quiet like in the south. Wish it would go back to those days.