Kevin S

Hello All,

i read this on the queensland electrical safety site, i thought it may be of interest to some of you out there, my understanding of it is, that if you present the appropriate cert to the licensing dept with your wiring rules cert then a full license should be issued.




Eligibility requirements for electrical
licences (ss.34-38)
This applies to the licensing requirements
for electrical mechanics, electrical lines
persons, electrical fitters, electrical jointers
and restricted electrical workers.
Following recent national agreement,
there have been changes to immigration
arrangements to allow skilled migrants to
apply to be assessed offshore rather than
waiting until they arrive in Australia. The
assessing authority must be approved under
the Commonwealth migration regulations
and they are required to issue a certificate
stating that the applicant’s skills are suitable
for the appropriate electrical licence. This
does not mean the applicant automatically
is granted a licence, as the certificate only
meets part of the requirements for obtaining
the relevant electrical work licence.

and this

The Commonwealth Government, through Trades
Recognition Australia (TRA), assesses the trade skills of
people applying to migrate to Australia under the program.
Under a new system recently introduced by the federal
Department of Workplace Relations (DEWR), an Off
Shore Technical Skills Record (OTSR) may be issued for
applicants who have been assessed against a relevant
Australian certificate III trade qualification in their home
country by an authorised Registered Training Organisation
(RTO).
Alternatively, some applicants may be issued an Australian
Recognised Trade Certificate (ARTC) when they arrive in
Australia.
Migrants may be unfamiliar with mandatory electrical
licensing requirements and associated procedures. Some
may present all or some of the documentation they received
as part of the migration process to a prospective employer
with the mistaken understanding that they are eligible to
perform electrical work.
The most common documentation likely to be presented is:
• a letter of classification for migration purposes
• a letter advising that an OTSR or ARTC has been granted
• an Off Shore Technical Skills Record
• an Australian Recognised Trade Certificate.
Employers are advised that
none of these documents
are, or substitute for, a
Queensland electrical work
licence or permit.
If you are presented with any of
these documents you should direct the prospective employee
to apply to the Electrical Safety Office (ESO) for the relevant
electrical work licence.
The ESO will then issue the applicant with a training permit to
allow them to work under general supervision. If necessary
the worker may need to take off-the-job formal
training at an RTO to acquire competency in
wiring rules and regulations. On achieving
competency the Electrical Work Licence will be
issued.
The trade classifications most commonly
encountered by employers are electrical
mechanic, electrical fitter and refrigeration
mechanic.

it seems to me that the wiring rules and CPR is the only step required to gaining a full license in Queensland, with either an ARTC or OTSR

Regards

Kevin

Davy

Hope your right Buddy.Davy

Glasgow

Hi Kevin,
So If my thinking is right the sequence to get the golden ticket is:-

1. Apply to TRA from UK. (24 pages so far, need to get finger out!)
2. Apply for ARTC from UK. (Australian address required for mail)
3. Get Ass to Australia.
3. Apply to Electrical Safety Office
4. Pass wiring rules and CPR tests (Wiring rules being the PEER route at Adelaide?)

Ideally I would like to find a job / sponsorship before I leave UK, from what I have read the chances of this are very very slim as no-one will touch you unless you are living in OZ and you have the necessary A license.

One of my main concerns is the timescale of gaining the A license once in Australia, if steps 1-4 above are correct then steps 3&4 look like they could be done quite quickly?

steve`o

what you need to add is info re the wiring course and where it can be done etc the following is for qld only

once in qld you apply to the electrical safety office for an electrical licence
http://www.deir.qld.gov.au/electrica...seas/index.htm
and
http://www.deir.qld.gov.au/pdf/eso/o...nce_form11.pdf

note the osrt and artc certificates are both accepted as proof as an overseas trained electrician

this will get you a permit to train valid for 12 months, which means you have to get a job working under the supervsion of an australian licenced electrician

you now need too complete the electrical course qld 39093 electrical installation inspection and testing, the course works through the au wiring standards as:nz3000 2007 showing how they work out maximum demand, volt drop etc as part of the course your required to complete a log book showing the type of work done each job been countersigned by your supervisor

once the course is complete ( time varies between tafe being the slowest as courses are run around a school term timetable and private rto`s where you do the course work in your own time and attend the rto for additional help if needed or just for the exams if confident ) you sit your exam
the exam consists of three written sections theory ( max demand VD equations etc ) regulations - you have to quote the correct regs to the question asked and you do get to take the regs book into the exam and finally inspection the last part being multi choice tick box jobby

once the written bits over its on to the practical and what they are looking for is a safe method of working so its check all you test gear against a known sourse, test, disconnect check instruments again test again they arnt looking for who can dress in a cable the best its all about safety, you`ll do various tests visual, insulation resistance etc then test agin and re-energise the circuit,

once youve completed the tests and gained a satisfactory result the rto will issue there own certificate a statement of attaiment in qld 39093 direct to the safety office ( you will also get a copy )
once the rto issues the safety office with the attainment your full licence is issued ( within two weeks )

where to do the course
personally i`d reccomend qet
http://www.qet.edu.au/ because a its qucker than tafe and b its a small company run by chris who`s ex tafe ex electrical safty office and knows the system inside out, you can allways go via tafe but be prepared to wait untill feb to start the course which runs till late july so if you arrive in say april may its a long wait for the next course

tafe link
http://www.deir.qld.gov.au/electrica.../rto/index.htm


hope this helps

regards steve

steve`o

how come your going via tra are you applying as a specialist ??

Glasgow

Hi Steve,
Yes I'm appllying as a specialist, i feel the requirements they ask for are more suited to my present job.

rinkerdink

Word of caution, from what my migration agent has told me it is your training as well as your subsequent job history which will determine which route you will be successful regarding general or special class.

Got the gist that they try to divert as many as possible down the vetassess route as the special class is cheaper and often faster so is naturally attractive, the TRA route is reserved for those where it is wholly applicable.

All this said the agent agreed that the special class was more appropriate for me so I don't think I was being misled just honestly advised.