General Election UK
#46
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He's doing well but PM Theresa May had a huge advantage in polling. The UK is a deeply conservative, aging society and the electoral system is such that it favours a binary outcome. The chances of a progressive party being elected are very slender.
#47
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She did have, but her, and the Tories, attitude to the NHS and Police by failing to fund them sufficiently is causing them to haemorrhage votes votes at a great rate, and if they suddenly come up with policies that promise more money they are unlikely to be believed, also the so-called 'dementia tax' has done them no favours, then they u-turned on that, and the threat to pensions.
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Before the terrorist attacks her Dementia Tax was the number one issue and a major problem for her.
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Please don't vote for Mr Corbyn
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Is it over yet?
I could have voted, but I didn't.
I could have voted, but I didn't.
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I live in New Zealand, I pay taxes in New Zealand, I vote in New Zealand.
Besides, the result was a racing certainty in the constituency I used to live in London.
I only had a postal-vote because I did send a vote for the Brexit referendum which they rejected based on the signature, so they have made their bed and they can lie in it for all I care. It is none of my business now.
Besides, the result was a racing certainty in the constituency I used to live in London.
I only had a postal-vote because I did send a vote for the Brexit referendum which they rejected based on the signature, so they have made their bed and they can lie in it for all I care. It is none of my business now.
#53
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Well it's all over now, and the bug questions are
Will Theresa May resign, she should she has run a disastrous campaign.
What will happen in Brexit, she wanted the election to give her a big majority, as her advisors said it would, and she has spectacularly failed, so the other EU people must be rubbing their hands with glee.
She will have to rely on the Irish Democratic Unionist party, who have very different views on many policies.
Will Theresa May resign, she should she has run a disastrous campaign.
What will happen in Brexit, she wanted the election to give her a big majority, as her advisors said it would, and she has spectacularly failed, so the other EU people must be rubbing their hands with glee.
She will have to rely on the Irish Democratic Unionist party, who have very different views on many policies.
#54
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Are you saying you wished to vote in the EU/UK referendum because you felt the need but for admin reasons could not get that vote so you decided to stuff on the UK snap general election, which was about more than the EU/UK exit or not , because of that.
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I actually do not understand this post.
Are you saying you wished to vote in the EU/UK referendum because you felt the need but for admin reasons could not get that vote so you decided to stuff on the UK snap general election, which was about more than the EU/UK exit or not , because of that.
Are you saying you wished to vote in the EU/UK referendum because you felt the need but for admin reasons could not get that vote so you decided to stuff on the UK snap general election, which was about more than the EU/UK exit or not , because of that.
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I voted for what it's worth. Relieved Corbyn hasn't got in, but what a weird result, certainly a collapse in 3rd party votes, and more tactical voting.
By National % vote, the Tories best showing since taking almost exactly the same % in 1983, and Labour's best since 97' when Blair was elected with landslide vote on 43%. Tories today seem likely to have more than 42% and won't get a majority, yet less than that saw Blair take 167 seat majority in 2001!
Instability for sure, and May almost totally to blame, but hopefully we won't be seeing the hard brexit.
Will it be 5 years with Tory minority govt or do will we get another election in a few mths? It's certainly May's last election, and for all Corbyn's joy, he still lost, and difficult to see him being able to win a national election. For both parties, a better campaigner would have seen the tories home, and for Labour a more electable candidate would likely have won too.
By National % vote, the Tories best showing since taking almost exactly the same % in 1983, and Labour's best since 97' when Blair was elected with landslide vote on 43%. Tories today seem likely to have more than 42% and won't get a majority, yet less than that saw Blair take 167 seat majority in 2001!
Instability for sure, and May almost totally to blame, but hopefully we won't be seeing the hard brexit.
Will it be 5 years with Tory minority govt or do will we get another election in a few mths? It's certainly May's last election, and for all Corbyn's joy, he still lost, and difficult to see him being able to win a national election. For both parties, a better campaigner would have seen the tories home, and for Labour a more electable candidate would likely have won too.
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#57
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Had thought the Conservatives would maintain a majority but it looks like they'll need the DUP. Agreed, one way or another, this is the last election outing for PM May. Unfortunately there isn't an obvious candidate to replace her. In terms of policy the Conservatives clearly can't win appealing to pensioners and core voters alone, they need some broader policies to entice younger, working voters.
I would say Jeremy Corbyn seems to engage with voters well. It looked like Labour would suffer a landslide loss just a few weeks ago after years of political infighting had consumed the party at a grass roots level and Corbyn was a real outsider even to win the leadership. He isn't a centrist politician but it's likely his performance will cement the party as credible opposition in a good position to contest the next election. It was a great turn around in a short space of time, lets watch what happens at the next election .
I would say Jeremy Corbyn seems to engage with voters well. It looked like Labour would suffer a landslide loss just a few weeks ago after years of political infighting had consumed the party at a grass roots level and Corbyn was a real outsider even to win the leadership. He isn't a centrist politician but it's likely his performance will cement the party as credible opposition in a good position to contest the next election. It was a great turn around in a short space of time, lets watch what happens at the next election .
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May is in office but not in power. She's a goner.
My pick: another election before the end of the year.
My pick: another election before the end of the year.
#59
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Ah! FWIW I found it all to be a faff trying to get my vote for both. Didn't trust a postal vote to arrive in time so opted for a proxy and that had to be postal from within the UK.
Got my voice heard for both. There again I feel I have a stake .
Got my voice heard for both. There again I feel I have a stake .
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So the Tories are in with the DUP. Ironic that they were whinging about Labour's past of trying to pursue peace with the IRA's war for independence yet say NOTHING about the DUP who party members were also members of Loyalists terror gangs and whose gangsters are continuing to kill people to this day, only a few weeks ago they gunned down a man in front of his child outside a supermarket. All of those loyalist terror gangs such as the UDA ONLY killed Irish catholic civilians to deter people from continuing to support the IRA and it's cause for re-unification, they killed FAR more civilians than the IRA who were mostly engaged with British security forces and do you know whats even more ironic, that the conservative governments in the past refused to recognize these loyalist groups as terrorists until international pressure was put on Britain mainly from the US.
The DUP consists of some of the most vile and corrupt individuals, Arlene foster is being investigated for squandering 400 million pounds of tax payers money from the renewable energy scheme. They have many party members who believe the world is only 6 thousand years old, they are absolutely clueless on economics and are merely supported because of their stance on the union, imagine the fundamentalists in red neck america and thats basically the ideology of these people. They despise Catholicism and anything to do with Irishness and they tried to block the progress of nationalist people gaining civil rights claiming it would lead to what they described as Irish republican popery. The middle east has ISIS. Britain has these guys. I'm glad i live away from all that nonsense now.
The DUP consists of some of the most vile and corrupt individuals, Arlene foster is being investigated for squandering 400 million pounds of tax payers money from the renewable energy scheme. They have many party members who believe the world is only 6 thousand years old, they are absolutely clueless on economics and are merely supported because of their stance on the union, imagine the fundamentalists in red neck america and thats basically the ideology of these people. They despise Catholicism and anything to do with Irishness and they tried to block the progress of nationalist people gaining civil rights claiming it would lead to what they described as Irish republican popery. The middle east has ISIS. Britain has these guys. I'm glad i live away from all that nonsense now.
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