Originally Posted by Scamp

.... part of the 0.1% who are so self satisfied they don't need any external gratification....at which point they're smug which means they sort of do need it, through smugness.

Well. That's what I reckon anyway.

Originally Posted by Pulaski

I reckon you're right, and you have explained Prius drivers very nicely - driving a hybrid isn't enough, and there are plenty to choose from, but they need to drive a weird-shaped car so everyone will know that they care about saving the world.

Originally Posted by Pulaski

I wear a Seiko every day, and I looked at a replacement, but I found it hard to find a Seiko for MORE than about $150 - they are perfectly respectable "every day" watches, but there aren't any even moderately fancy Seikos, at least not that I could find.

My mother bought me a watch last year, she wanted to buy me a fancy one, and I settled for a Tissot - a nice Swiss watch, but not silly money. They seem to start around $400, and come in a variety of styles, some are "automatic", most are quartz. I only wear mine on special occasions - mostly nights out with Mrs P, but Iike it enough that I might get some others in different styles in future.

Originally Posted by CeeBee

Google Grand Seiko. I think you'll be in for a surprise. They're very highly regarded however most people would dismiss them because they think they're 'just a Seiko'.

Originally Posted by Pulaski

Hmmm, they never showed up on my search for a Seiko. That said, I'm inclined to agree, they are the Hyundai Genesis of watches.

Originally Posted by Inselaffen

would compare it more to buying a lexus rather than a bmw.

Originally Posted by Millhouse

I'm losing interest in this thread by the second. It must be time to close it.

Originally Posted by Scamp

Grand Seiko seems to me like buying a Patrol instead of a Range Rover. Quality might be up there, so might the price tag, but you'll look down and see NISSAN.

Originally Posted by CeeBee

People that buy a Patrol over RR obviously know their onions and see passed the badge (I had one). I expect most RR buyers buy them simply because of the badge.

The same is probably true for 90% (maybe higher) of luxury watch buyers. They invariably don't care what's on the inside. I expect the majority wouldn't even know the difference between quartz and automatic.

I'd add that I wouldn't buy a Grand Seiko. Certainly not at some of the prices i've seen (£5k+).

Originally Posted by Scamp

Like everything, cars - houses - shoes - clothes - etc
.............
That then projects the image that I'm wealthy or doing well or better than others, which, as a human is what 99.9% of us want to be able to do. Showing off is totally natural, normal and part of being a human being. People who deride it are closet liars or part of the 0.1% who are so self satisfied they don't need any external gratification....at which point they're smug which means they sort of do need it, through smugness.

Well. That's what I reckon anyway.

Originally Posted by Scamp

Like everything, cars - houses - shoes - clothes - etc
I drive a pretty crap car by 2017 standards, so later this year may change it at flippin' last. I could replace it with something similar but I won't, I want something nicer.

That then projects the image that I'm wealthy or doing well or better than others, which, as a human is what 99.9% of us want to be able to do. Showing off is totally natural, normal and part of being a human being. People who deride it are closet liars or part of the 0.1% who are so self satisfied they don't need any external gratification....at which point they're smug which means they sort of do need it, through smugness.

Well. That's what I reckon anyway.

Originally Posted by Scamp

Disagree on the Patrol. They're nice but I'd have the new RR over one every day of the week.

I refer the honorable gentleman to the below;




Also, just think how much easier it is if you own a Rolex. Everyone knows a Rolex. But explaining that the Grand Seiko you own (not you obviously, but 'you') was more expensive than X Rolex and is better made and better at this or that. It would get really tiring really quickly.
The average man in the street wouldn't instantly know that you're wearing a £5,000++ watch and therefore how great you are, you'd have to stop him and explain it isn't £149.99 in H Samuel.

Doesn't work.

Originally Posted by IKnowNothing

Men with small penises, shiny suits and pointy shoes wear bling/ drive bling cars. They're never/ever to be trusted.