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Old May 21st 2011, 11:17 pm
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Default Saudi woman detained for driving.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43121118...ica/?gt1=43001

Saudi Arabia is the only country in the world to ban women — both Saudi and foreign — from driving. The prohibition forces families to hire live-in drivers, and those who cannot afford the $300 to $400 a month for a driver must rely on male relatives to drive them to work, school, shopping or the doctor
$300-$400 = 1120-1500 riyals. Do drivers really get paid that much? I don't mean they don't deserve it for the work they do but rather I thought their pay would be comparable to Dubai construction workers, which is like around $200, right?
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Old May 21st 2011, 11:50 pm
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Would't it be cheaper to take a taxis or car pool?
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Old May 22nd 2011, 12:11 am
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Would't it be cheaper to take a taxis or car pool?
But Taxi = non related male driver, though that same problem is there with a driver, so does a male family member accompany them? But if a male family member goes with them, then why the need for a driver??

But aren't the lingerie salesfolk men?
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Old May 22nd 2011, 2:00 am
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apparently the driver is seen as part of the car and therefore he doesn't count as a person, so women can go out even though he's not related....but maybe I was told porkies...
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Originally Posted by MataHari
apparently the driver is seen as part of the car and therefore he doesn't count as a person, so women can go out even though he's not related....but maybe I was told porkies...
no that's about right

think there's a day of demonstration next month when a load of women will get behind the wheel
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Old May 22nd 2011, 7:41 am
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Originally Posted by Boomhauer
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$300-$400 = 1120-1500 riyals. Do drivers really get paid that much? I don't mean they don't deserve it for the work they do but rather I thought their pay would be comparable to Dubai construction workers, which is like around $200, right?
Yup, my Saudi boss pays his ( Pakistani ) driver 1800 sr a month, a bit higher than the average which is around 1500sr.

Taxi's are the only real alternative to those who cannot afford a driver - bearing in mind you also have to buy a car as well as paying for a driver!
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Originally Posted by Boomhauer
But Taxi = non related male driver, though that same problem is there with a driver, so does a male family member accompany them? But if a male family member goes with them, then why the need for a driver??

But aren't the lingerie salesfolk men?
yes they are, however some stores are employing women now.
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yes they are, however some stores are employing women now.
Only ever seen one - the H&M Lingerie store in Jeddah was staffed by women - so of course, it was women only allowed in the shop, no men.
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Originally Posted by nottmbantam
Only ever seen one - the H&M Lingerie store in Jeddah was staffed by women - so of course, it was women only allowed in the shop, no men.
La Senza are still using men I think, watched a documentary about it a couple of months ago
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Originally Posted by MataHari
apparently the driver is seen as part of the car and therefore he doesn't count as a person, so women can go out even though he's not related....but maybe I was told porkies...
Thats pretty close but not quite. "Family drivers" have a different profession in their Iqamas (labour card) which means that they are approved to drive ladies etc - no idea on what qualifies them for this.

On most compounds, the limo drivers have family driver status so they can take the ladies of the compound shopping etc.
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Originally Posted by TheShed
Thats pretty close but not quite. "Family drivers" have a different profession in their Iqamas (labour card) which means that they are approved to drive ladies etc - no idea on what qualifies them for this.

On most compounds, the limo drivers have family driver status so they can take the ladies of the compound shopping etc.
They don't castrate the men like they used to do to African slaves, do they?.
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Default Re: Saudi woman detained for driving.

Originally Posted by nottmbantam
Only ever seen one - the H&M Lingerie store in Jeddah was staffed by women - so of course, it was women only allowed in the shop, no men.
the ladies only floor in kingdom mall is like that i think also
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Originally Posted by weasel central
the ladies only floor in kingdom mall is like that i think also
Yes, and apparently, women must remove the face veil when entering. For security and health and safety reasons...

When my wife goes into her Ladies Branch of the bank, she always comes out telling me how tarty all the bank tellers are dressed. Loads of make up, teetering high heels, tight skirts, low tops. Sounds great I said, how do I get in for a peep?
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I have been told that drivers and sales men are not really seen as "men" due to their nationality.
Strange thing though, as we have "family only days" in malls over here....to keep away those men that apparently aren't men....
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Well she broke the law - should get the appropiate penalty.
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